Josh put his Superman cape on today

[UKBillFan]

Just now, T master said:

 

Okay I totally agree Babich got his a** handed to him the D was terrible & i get it, but even despite all that if they don't get the scoop and score whats the score at the end of the game if all things stay the same ?? 

 

The short comings in this game were the D & ST's Josh did his job, the offense did what they needed to do, the others didn't . 

 

As they say it only take 1 or 2 plays to change the out come of the game & that was the ONE in this game . 

 

Ferguson is 6' 2" and 235 lbs why is a lineman so light going against guys that out weigh him by probably 40 or 50 lbs - the Bills have LBers that weight more than him .

 

Are we trying to say that if the punt hadn't been blocked, then the defense would have magically found a solution and stopped Stafford on that drive? I mean, anything is possible, but I think too much is being made of one incident where, in all likelihood, the Rams would have just drove down the field and got a touchdown anyway. It was irritating to say the least, but the defense gifted them five times the number of points Special Teams did, and didn't even manage one turnover to help the offense.

[T master]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Are we trying to say that if the punt hadn't been blocked, then the defense would have magically found a solution and stopped Stafford on that drive? I mean, anything is possible, but I think too much is being made of one incident where, in all likelihood, the Rams would have just drove down the field and got a touchdown anyway. It was irritating to say the least, but the defense gifted them five times the number of points Special Teams did, and didn't even manage one turnover to help the offense.

 

It is very possible that they would have went right down and scored because the D was not good in this game, but that being said that's 7 points off the board and we know that given what Josh did and the end score those points made a difference and the D may have gotten lucky & held them to a FG we will never know now .

 

Alls a team needs to win is 1 more point than the other team and by taking that play away they don't have 7 points if they hold them to a FG Bills still win by 2 .

 

If the Bills want to win they need all 3 phases of the team to do their job or the way they have been playing by stopping their opponent from getting more points than the Bills and they didn't do it this week .

 

Offense did their job but the other 2 phases didn't & Bills lose .

[UKBillFan]

1 hour ago, T master said:

 

It is very possible that they would have went right down and scored because the D was not good in this game, but that being said that's 7 points off the board and we know that given what Josh did and the end score those points made a difference and the D may have gotten lucky & held them to a FG we will never know now .

 

Alls a team needs to win is 1 more point than the other team and by taking that play away they don't have 7 points if they hold them to a FG Bills still win by 2 .

 

If the Bills want to win they need all 3 phases of the team to do their job or the way they have been playing by stopping their opponent from getting more points than the Bills and they didn't do it this week .

 

Offense did their job but the other 2 phases didn't & Bills lose .

 

That's true but defense had continuous issues throughout the game without adjustment on or off the field. Specials Team had an error by Ferguson (and maybe Martin was a touch on a slow side). The usual approach is a poor series at the start of the game and then they tighten up but yesterday was just the same thing over and over again.

 

It's not like we haven't seen it before - even this series, it happened in Baltimore but was dismissed because of injuries coupled with the offense also having issues.

 

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. He isn't perfect but Brady seems to have realised different games need different approaches, such as abandoning the run game yesterday. McDermott, Babich, Smiley? I'm not so sure.

[JerseyBills]

15 hours ago, Returntoglory said:

Zone scheme killed us today. I can't believe the lack of adjustments after halftime.

It was unbelievable,  but Taron and even Benford seemed to be getting exploited in man , I just tip my hat to Stafford and McVay.

This could be a blessing in disguise for the D, they've been good , glad they put up a stinker now and can work on why it happened 

[BarleyNY]

13 hours ago, RiotAct said:

sadly the probability of a Dan Marino (or even Philip Rivers) type trajectory is looking very likely for JA#17.

for several seasons now I’ve been hoping for a John Elway trajectory for Alan. 

4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

It was unbelievable,  but Taron and even Benford seemed to be getting exploited in man , I just tip my hat to Stafford and McVay.

This could be a blessing in disguise for the D, they've been good , glad they put up a stinker now and can work on why it happened 

 

I think the issue might be that our DBs are well suited to zone, but not man. If an opposing offense can beat our zone then we do not have an answer since we’re poor in man. Also when we have to blitz to create pressure it forces us into man and creates the same problems. Obviously these issues present themselves when we play against the best QBs/WR corps/offenses. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

15 hours ago, Returntoglory said:

We saw the lethality of Josh Allen today.

 

With a beyond sub-par performance by the Defense, crucial missed calls by the refs and a head scratching timeout at the end of the game, we were still in it.

 

As a holdover from the Bills SuperBowl Era, cherish what we have at QB today. 

 

Because tomorrow is right around the corner. 

If he doesn't receive the MVP this year, he never will.

 

He's CLEARLY the MVP

 

 

[BarleyNY]

Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

If he doesn't receive the MVP this year, he never will.

 

He's CLEARLY the MVP

 

 

I think Allen wins it this season, but that it’ll be our championship. A SB just isn’t happening with McD. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

10 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

I think Allen wins it this season, but that it’ll be our championship. A SB just isn’t happening with McD. 

Probably right

 

[oldmanfan]

The only other thing Josh could have done was spike it on the 1st and goal play and/or audible out of the sneak if he didn’t like the play.

[zow2]

On his show, Cowherd just absolutely shredding the Bills organization for wasting Josh Allen's talents.  Says he is more talented than Mahomes and Kansas City is 14-2 when Mahomes has those Superman games (over 400 yards),  Josh Allen is 4-5.  He's so fed up with the Bills it's funny.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

11 minutes ago, zow2 said:

On his show, Cowherd just absolutely shredding the Bills organization for wasting Josh Allen's talents.  Says he is more talented than Mahomes and Kansas City is 14-2 when Mahomes has those Superman games (over 400 yards),  Josh Allen is 4-5.  He's so fed up with the Bills it's funny.

Cowherd is wrong about a lot

 

but not about this.

 

[Albany,n.y.]

Josh plays like Superman, Defense plays like Lois Lane.

 

This game shows that the defensive backfield needs a total overhaul.  The only good to great DB is Benford. We could get rid of just about everyone else & they wouldn't be missed.  

Douglas has played his way off any new contract, Elam has inactived his way off the team. Elam is not on the team next year.  The rest of the corners are backups at best. 

Cole Bishop better be improved next year.  Pro Bowler 😆 Hamlin should go home to Pittsburgh or join his buddy Dane Jackson in Carolina. 

 

[Gregg]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

On his show, Cowherd just absolutely shredding the Bills organization for wasting Josh Allen's talents.  Says he is more talented than Mahomes and Kansas City is 14-2 when Mahomes has those Superman games (over 400 yards),  Josh Allen is 4-5.  He's so fed up with the Bills it's funny.

 

The Chiefs defense steps up in big moments. The Bills don't. One of the main reasons Mahomes has 3 rings and Allen has none.

[T master]

2 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

 

That's true but defense had continuous issues throughout the game without adjustment on or off the field. Specials Team had an error by Ferguson (and maybe Martin was a touch on a slow side). The usual approach is a poor series at the start of the game and then they tighten up but yesterday was just the same thing over and over again.

 

It's not like we haven't seen it before - even this series, it happened in Baltimore but was dismissed because of injuries coupled with the offense also having issues.

 

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. He isn't perfect but Brady seems to have realised different games need different approaches, such as abandoning the run game yesterday. McDermott, Babich, Smiley? I'm not so sure.

 

Okay but McD has attempted to make change, Frazier is gone which i think was a mutual thing due to what Frazier called in the 13 second game, then McD himself took over play calling last year & did much better, with that Babich knowing McD and the way he thinks made the move to put him as DC and has been pretty good up to this point for the most part .

 

Yes he has had bad games like Baltimore then this game which hopefully he will learn from & they can go on another 7 game winning streak !! So he's not doing the same thing over & over he is making changes and Babich is a first year DC making calls, Smiley i not to fond of .

[DJB]

16 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I love Josh but I'm not ready to go this far.  

 

If OJ didn't turn out to be a scumbag off the field, he'd be in the conversation as the greatest RB ever.   And he excelled in the Golden Era of RBs when the best athletes became backs and offenses were built around them.   Yet, in 1973, OJ ran for an insane 75% more yards than the next best back.  No RB or QB - not Jim Brown, not Brady - ever produced 75% more yards in a season than the next best guy.  No one's come close.   

 

And let's not forget that Bruce owns the all-time NFL record for sacks.  He may be the best DE of all time.

 

When Josh sets a meaningful career NFL record like Bruce or nearly doubles the season production of his peers like OJ, I'll consider him as a candidate for Bills GOAT.  

 

 

 

 

Edited December 9 by DJB

[UKBillFan]

11 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Okay but McD has attempted to make change, Frazier is gone which i think was a mutual thing due to what Frazier called in the 13 second game, then McD himself took over play calling last year & did much better, with that Babich knowing McD and the way he thinks made the move to put him as DC and has been pretty good up to this point for the most part .

 

Yes he has had bad games like Baltimore then this game which hopefully he will learn from & they can go on another 7 game winning streak !! So he's not doing the same thing over & over he is making changes and Babich is a first year DC making calls, Smiley i not to fond of .

 

As others said, yesterday's defense was very similar to what we saw under Fraiser, which begs the question why it cropped up again under a different DC. Also, I would hope that McDermott, as a defensive head coach, would step in and make adjustments if Babich seemed unable to, which he seemingly was yesterday. Either he decided to let Babich continue with the same approach, or he tried to intervene without making any discernable changes. Either is concerning.

[gordong]

yes AGAIN he put on the cape... to bad he's being wasted in Buffalo...   this defense is not good enough to win a super bowl, not in the past and NOT now. 

[sleeby]

Josh is beyond amazing but want to add Shakir had some amazing plays yesterday as well.

 

As for offense, I would like to see a little more ray ray. 

[MJS]

The main storyline of the game is not that the Bills lost or the Rams won, it is that Josh Allen is a freak of nature and did incredible things in that game.

 

That is pretty impressive. Usually, the losing team, regardless of the individual efforts, is barely talked about.

[mjt328]

I was thinking about elite QBs during my lifetime who failed to even make a Super Bowl.

The only guys I could think of were Warren Moon and Phillip Rivers.

 

Both of those guys had multiple Hall of Fame quarterbacks to get past on a yearly basis in the AFC. 

Moon had Jim Kelly, John Elway and Dan Marino.  Rivers had Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger.