McD will be the scapegoat to hide the real issue this week

[JP51]

Babich is to blame for sure... but the decision do i take my D off the field that has been scorched all day and give it to Josh to win the game who is steamrolling them OR do I ride or die with my defense who is putrid...

Hmmmmm? Let's go D! Was the most grossly inept call in a football game i have seen since the Russell Wilson interception in the Super Bowl. That was inexcusable.  

[Maine-iac]

39 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Cmon … that’s 7 points … they scored 44

We lost by 2.  Defense still would have sucked but it's not inconceivable that we could have still won this game.

[JGMcD2]

Just now, <bills4life> said:

His clock management at the end of the game costed us the opportunity to at least have a better chance of winning. 7 percent chance of onside recovery or 15 percent chance our defense stops them. Should have played the odds. I’m not saying the d would have stopped them. But McDermott is the head coach and highly vaulted as a defensive guru. The buck starts and stops with him. No scapegoat needed. 

That’s fair, and I totally agree. It was a mistake and one that essentially ended the game. 
 

That being said, we also have to recognize that he was playing the odds when he accepted the holding penalty to force a 3rd and 17. 

[Matt_In_NH]

43 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

The D is McDermott’s scheme 

And over the last five years they have given up the least yards and least points and most turnovers.   The body of work is there.  If you want to argue playoffs that is valid.  

[Lionel Hutz]

McDermott is supposed to be a defensive genius and yet time and time again it’s the defense that lets us down in big games.

 

He needs to be held accountable for coming up short when it matters.

 

We are wasting a generational talent at QB.

[<bills4life>]

23 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

Sean McDermott is the head coach....

 

I'm not going to overreact and I don't see this happening in the playoffs but it was pretty atrocious on defense at every level including scheme.

 

I want McDermott here for a long time but he can't keep losing these classic Allen games. You can't lose games like this when your QB is transcendent 

And that’s the problem.  At some point Josh is going to lose faith in McDermott. If this happens it’s over.  I feel bad for him. To watch him apologizing for his play during the press conference was infuriating to say the least. 

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

We lost by 2.  Defense still would have sucked but it's not inconceivable that we could have still won this game.

All I’m saying is that the blocked punt is not the reason they lost this game… to say it’s one of the reasons is probably more accurate 

2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

And over the last five years they have given up the least yards and least points and most turnovers.   The body of work is there.  If you want to argue playoffs that is valid.  

To be clear … that’s what I am arguing …

 

 

[boyst]

12 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Not like we gave up 21 points or less to four of our last five opponents headed into today or nothing. Nope. None of that matters.

That's patently false. The chiefs and dolphins score more than 21. The amazing offenses of Seattle, Indianapolis, and Tennessee did not. 

[Matt_In_NH]

3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

All I’m saying is that the blocked punt is not the reason they lost this game… to say it’s one of the reasons is probably more accurate 

To be clear … that’s what I am arguing …

 

 

And we also know today was an interconfence road game and not the playoffs 

[<bills4life>]

3 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

That’s fair, and I totally agree. It was a mistake and one that essentially ended the game. 
 

That being said, we also have to recognize that he was playing the odds when he accepted the holding penalty to force a 3rd and 17. 

Respectively I have to disagree. Should have declined the penalty. 4th and 7 it would have been. Give them the fg. In a high scoring game like that Josh probably would have back doored them. With that being said mcveigh might have went for it anyway. But it may have compelled him to kick it. Who knows. 

[Roundybout]

Just now, boyst said:

That's patently false. The chiefs and dolphins score more than 21. The amazing offenses of Seattle, Indianapolis, and Tennessee did not. 

The Chiefs scored 21 exactly. 

[Returntoglory]

58 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

Fans are already piling on McD for his end of game decisions (accepting the penalty with 5 minutes left and the TO after the sneak).  I think there is fair criticism to both plays, however those two decisions are NOT why we lost the game. 

 

Defense today:

11-15 on third down conversions (was 11-12 with about 5 minutes left in the game

1-1 on fourth down

0 sacks

38:30 time of possession for the Rams

457 total yards allowed

 

The game wasn't lost in the last 5 minutes, it was the poor playcalling by Babich and execution in the first 55 that really hurt us.

ZERO TURNOVERS!

[Aussie Joe]

4 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

And we also know today was an interconfence road game and not the playoffs 

Okay ….

 

Im already over todays game …,

 

my concerns are about this team winning 4 playoff games in a row .., and I’m pretty comfortable with the O side of the ball

 

 

Edited December 9 by Aussie Joe

[Lionel Hutz]

3 minutes ago, &lt;bills4life&gt; said:

And that’s the problem.  At some point Josh is going to lose faith in McDermott. If this happens it’s over.  I feel bad for him. To watch him apologizing for his play during the press conference was infuriating to say the least. 

Allen doesn’t seem like the type of player that would ever demand a coaching change. Like them or not, winners like Brady, Manning, LeBron, Jordan, etc. would step in and force ownership/management to make a change. 

[JGMcD2]

3 minutes ago, &lt;bills4life&gt; said:

Respectively I have to disagree. Should have declined the penalty. 4th and 7 it would have been. Give them the fg. In a high scoring game like that Josh probably would have back doored them. With that being said mcveigh might have went for it anyway. But it may have compelled him to kick it. Who knows.

You disagreed with me, then walked through the logic and agreed with me? 
 

They weren’t in comfortable FG range to begin with, they were likely going for it on 4th and 7 because taking that risk to go up 6 wasn’t going to make a difference. You back them up to 3rd and 17 and you’re playing the odds that that play results in a small gain, or possibly even no gain. Now they have to punt because going for it isn’t an option. 

[<bills4life>]

3 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

You disagreed with me, then walked through the logic and agreed with me? 
 

They weren’t in comfortable FG range to begin with, they were likely going for it on 4th and 7 because taking that risk to go up 6 wasn’t going to make a difference. You back them up to 3rd and 17 and you’re playing the odds that that play results in a small gain, or possibly even no gain. Now they have to punt because going for it isn’t an option. 

Sorry misread

[Rocbillsfan1]

1 hour ago, Cray51 said:

Fans are already piling on McD for his end of game decisions (accepting the penalty with 5 minutes left and the TO after the sneak).  I think there is fair criticism to both plays, however those two decisions are NOT why we lost the game. 

 

Defense today:

11-15 on third down conversions (was 11-12 with about 5 minutes left in the game

1-1 on fourth down

0 sacks

38:30 time of possession for the Rams

457 total yards allowed

 

The game wasn't lost in the last 5 minutes, it was the poor playcalling by Babich and execution in the first 55 that really hurt us.

It’s not why they lost but it sure helped prevent them for winning! 

[DaVinci]

It seems these tactical game time Decisions are always obvious to Seasoned NFL observers but we never execute the consensus option and we loose.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

They were ***** terrible the whole game.

[folz]

1 hour ago, Buddy Hix said:

You think Babich is more than a McD puppet? Like I’m sure he calls his own plays, but I’m also sure the gutless bend but don’t break/deep safeties is all McD’s wishes.

 

Funny, when the defense does well, we hear how Babich has been an improvement over McD calling the game, more aggressive, etc.. When the defense goes poorly, Babich is a puppet of McD.