finn Posted December 9 Posted December 9 26 minutes ago, Success said: The time out is inexcusable. Amateur move. How do you now understand that situation? I've been a McD supporter. But that's horrific. If Brady knew the situation, McDermott certainly should have. The bottom line is that he just doesn't seem to think quickly, at least not in crunch situations. He needs to recognize that and hand off crunch-time decisions to someone else. I give him an A+ for developing players and team culture, but he's shown again and again that he freezes in the clutch. 2 Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted December 9 Posted December 9 28 minutes ago, Success said: Accepting the penalty on the Rams drive. Then, calling TIME OUT. Could have rushed to the line there & still been able to stop the clock. That ended the game. Dumb, dumb, dumb. I totally agree, McDermott in critical moments, makes bad decisions. 4th and 7, and youopt for the penalty yards instead? My son and I were both in shock. I bet he wishes he had those seconds back. Follows that up by calling that timeout, and ending the game. Again, Josh Allen plays a historic game, and McDermott makes sure to drop the ball at the end. Twice!! 1 2 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted December 9 Posted December 9 Just now, Matt_In_NH said: interestingly it also correlates with losses Yea, its typical of fans to blame coaches when things go badly. Sometimes players just get whipped sometimes and they sure got whipped today. When I was a young HS coach, a veteran coach once told me the whole town used to think we were geniuses when we were winning titles year in and year out and now they think we're a bunch of dumbasses because we have a losing program. We have literally taught the same stuff year in and year out the only thing that changes are the players. Not entirely the same here but the truth is fans are always looking for someone to blame and the coaches are an easy target. Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted December 9 Posted December 9 5 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: You have to call time out after the sneak, unless you're cool with the next play starting with about 25 seconds left on the clock And that's the point. It will take eons of time to unpile the sneak. A poster somewhere said 10 seconds, but that's wishful thinking. 20 seconds minimum, so the real mistake was calling the sneak in the first place. Quote
Simon Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, FireChans said: I don’t know who that is? Sabres GM Quote
Success Posted December 9 Author Posted December 9 You had 2 things going for you at the end: Josh Allen, and 3 timeouts. For the entire last drive, my mindset - as a fan who knows nothing about coaching - was KEEP THE 3 TIMEOUTS. I still don't get. If you know you're going to use one - do not run the ball. That was as stupid as anything I've seen. 3 Quote
BananaB Posted December 9 Posted December 9 I had no problem accepting the penalty to make it 3rd and 17. Problem was they backed off and gave them an easy completion to get the yards back. Should of been aggressive 1 1 Quote
<bills4life> Posted December 9 Posted December 9 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: I want, so bad, to be wrong about McDermott. His culture is amazing and he’s a genuinely awesome person. After Josh Allen, Sean McDermott would the best most emotional I get seeing win a Super Bowl… But everyone knows that this is the fear in the playoffs.. and it’s a fear for a reason. And how exactly does this happen when Josh has been at his very best time and time again and it’s still not enough to overcome McDermotts boneheaded decisions in high pressure situations. Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, FireChans said: It wouldn’t take 35 seconds off the clock. Rams would probably be flagged for unsportsmanlike. Either way, you HAVE to preserve the timeout. Otherwise it all comes down to the onside, which it did, and we lost of course and never touched the ball again. im not saying it was high probability we win even if they call it exactly right. But to call it wrong is strikingly egregious. It would have taken close to 35 seconds The issue is the play call, the time out is such a hit debate because the bills needed to conserve the time outs You never run a play up the middle on a sneak if you're trying to save time Quote
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted December 9 Posted December 9 30 minutes ago, Process said: 1. Declining the penalty on 3rd and 7 was clearly the correct move YOU NEED A TD TD WIN NO MATTER WHAT. Would have been 4th and 7 vs 4th and 5. Would they have kicked the FG with 7 yards needed instead of 5? Who knows., but the decision was wrong regardless. and somehow this next one is 10000x worse. 2. You can not, under any circumstance. call a TO after the QB sneak. Sneaking it is dumb, but if you are going to do it you tell the guys if they stop it you hurry up, spend 10 seconds getting back to the line, and run it again. The second Sean called TO the game was over. 1. Someone tell McDeemott that. He kicked the fg to go up 6 against Arizona and you losers defended that too Quote
RyanC883 Posted December 9 Posted December 9 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Calling it a “disaster” is exactly what I’m mocking. The hyperbole around here is unreal. It’s a meaningless loss to an NFC team. Why is no one questioning Douglas and Rapp for giving up that circus catch to Kupp? it’s not a meaningless loss when you are trying to get the 1 aeed. this is so a continuation of McD late game blunders. the d was awful, but that does not excuse the HC continuing to make late game errors Edited December 9 by RyanC883 1 Quote
FireChans Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Simon said: Sabres GM Man they must be really down bad Quote
Process Posted December 9 Posted December 9 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BananaB said: I had no problem accepting the penalty to make it 3rd and 17. Problem was they backed off and gave them an easy completion to get the yards back. Should of been aggressive They blitzed all game and got torched The only play was to get the defense off the field and let Josh win it Giving up a FG there is meaningless. Actually it could be beter for us as it forces us to go for the TD and the win. Edited December 9 by Process Quote
Governor Posted December 9 Posted December 9 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Justin C said: The anti McDermott people have been waiting for today for months. Quite sad the lives people live. Complaining about a TO when the game was already over is pretty silly but his defense was horrible as usual. It will never be good enough and the special teams was bad again. These are known problems that haven’t been fixed, which falls on McD and his stubbornness. Edited December 9 by Governor Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said: And that's the point. It will take eons of time to unpile the sneak. A poster somewhere said 10 seconds, but that's wishful thinking. 20 seconds minimum, so the real mistake was calling the sneak in the first place. The call was astronomically bad If you wanted it in Allen's hands, put him in shot gun and let him see if he has a lane or a player open 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted December 9 Posted December 9 Just now, RyanC883 said: it’s not a meaningless loss when you are trying to get the 1 aeed. this is so a continuation of McD late game blunders. the d was awful, but that does not excuse the HC continuing to make late game errors I just don’t see it. I think the timeout was the least of the issues in the loss. Quote
Mango Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, FireChans said: I don’t know who that is? The GM of the Buffalo Sabres who after maybe the worst lost in franchise history held a press conference this week where he claimed that a big part of the problem with the team was that nobody wanted to play here because: 1. Palm trees 2. NYS taxes 3. The team keeps losing. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said: Yea, its typical of fans to blame coaches when things go badly. Sometimes players just get whipped sometimes and they sure got whipped today. When I was a young HS coach, a veteran coach once told me the whole town used to think we were geniuses when we were winning titles year in and year out and now they think we're a bunch of dumbasses because we have a losing program. We have literally taught the same stuff year in and year out the only thing that changes are the players. Not entirely the same here but the truth is fans are always looking for someone to blame and the coaches are an easy target. Right, most people cannot be objective when emotions are involved. They are really upset by results and will second guess everything that fails even if it makes sense. Other times if a bad decision works, there is utter silence. Quote
bouds Posted December 9 Posted December 9 They messed things up on the sneak but really we played bad d all game and bad special teams. We didn’t deserve to win ***** playing the way we did. Doesn’t excuse the coaches because they’re the ones that did a poor job on 2 out of 3 areas of the game. 1 Quote
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