That's No Moon Posted December 9 Posted December 9 Just now, djp14150 said: I would have declined the penalty and see what they did on 4 th and 7. They key was holding then to a FG or no score and having time left, if the D stopped them buffalo likely manages the clock to possibly win the game You decline the penalty if only to save the time on the clock. 3 Quote
ImpactCorey Posted December 9 Posted December 9 The benefit of declining the penalty would have saved some clock as well. Quote
Chaos Posted December 9 Posted December 9 13 minutes ago, FireChans said: Time out is fireable. If the sneak had worked, he would not have called the time out. McD will tell everyone it was an execution issue. 1 2 Quote
<bills4life> Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: It barely moved the needle. We were toast as it was. At least put your team in the best position to win. Fans know it and the players know it. Very poor management by McDermott 2 Quote
PoundingDog Posted December 9 Posted December 9 4 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: I think that was a JA audible. They didn't line up in their typical butt push formation. That's my impression. He walked up and no one behind him to push. The next try they use the push formation. Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: It barely moved the needle. We were toast as it was. This is so dense. The call by the coach was a disaster in it of itself, there is literally no defending it, which is why you won’t. He cost us with 23 seconds and he’s going to do it again in the playoffs. You could literally see it on Josh’s face. He knew it was over as soon as McD called the most amateur timeout of the season. 1 1 Quote
DCofNC Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, jkeerie said: By taking the penalty, the Bills take LA out of FG range and make it 3rd and 17. The problem was the defense giving up 12 yds on the next play, making it 4th down...then giving up the 5 yds. I don't fault McD. Our defense could not stop LA, and specifically Nakua all game. The Rams offensive starters made the plays when they needed to. For that matter, so did the Bills. It was that dang blocked punt for a TD that made the difference. THAT is why it’s on McD. You can’t take the penalty, then sit in a soft zone, letting them right back to the same place and burning clock. Absolutely stupid. 1 1 Quote
FireChans Posted December 9 Posted December 9 Just now, Chaos said: If the sneak had worked, he would not have called the time out. McD will tell everyone it was an execution issue. That’s true. If sneak doesn’t work, you still don’t call TO. 1 Quote
CoudyBills Posted December 9 Posted December 9 12 minutes ago, Roundybout said: 😂😂😂😂😂 Incredible stuff. All of a sudden McD is literally Hitler You didn't learn your lesson from this b******* already? Quote
Billsfanatic8989 Posted December 9 Posted December 9 TImeout is fireable. Absolutely inexcusable. The accepting of the penalty...two things can be true. 99% chance the Rams get a TD even if they decline the penalty. There's no way the D was stopping them. But...McD still should have declined it. 1 Quote
TFBillsfan Posted December 9 Posted December 9 (edited) Pick your poison, atrocious end of game management or atrocious D? McDermott’s D gave up 44 freakin points. They stayed in soft zone the entire game and got absolutely smoked. The DL might as well just raised their hands when pass rushing because they failed miserably rushing the passer! Really disappointing at this stage in McDermott’s HC career, these thing keep reoccurring. Edited December 9 by TFBillsfan Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, jkeerie said: By taking the penalty, the Bills take LA out of FG range and make it 3rd and 17. The problem was the defense giving up 12 yds on the next play, making it 4th down...then giving up the 5 yds. I don't fault McD. Our defense could not stop LA, and specifically Nakua all game. The Rams offensive starters made the plays when they needed to. For that matter, so did the Bills. It was that dang blocked punt for a TD that made the difference. I can't stand McDermott and wanted him gone years ago, but I agree with this logic and I did in the moment. I mean for Christ sake make a play on 3rd and 17. An incomplete pass there and they are punting. 2 Quote
Roundybout Posted December 9 Posted December 9 Just now, HomeskillitMoorman said: This is so dense. The call by the coach was a disaster in it of itself, there is literally no defending it, which is why you won’t. He cost us with 23 seconds and he’s going to do it again in the playoffs. You could literally see it on Josh’s face. He knew it was over as soon as McD called the most amateur timeout of the season. A disaster. A league-altering decision. Will forever go in the history books as the worst coaching decision in history. Oh wait. It’s a a loss. It happens. Move on Quote
Einstein Posted December 9 Posted December 9 6 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: I think that was a JA audible. They didn't line up in their typical butt push formation. No it was a run the whole time. They had their heavy formation out there. Run should never have been an option in that situation. Quote
jkeerie Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, DCofNC said: THAT is why it’s on McD. You can’t take the penalty, then sit in a soft zone, letting them right back to the same place and burning clock. Absolutely stupid. The last I checked, Babich calls the defense. 1 Quote
Simon Posted December 9 Posted December 9 7 minutes ago, Process said: Hey @Simon why keep my title but not have me as OP? I feel very passionately about this topic please give me my thread back I merged the two threads and it put that post at the top for some reason. Nothing to be done about it Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted December 9 Posted December 9 Full disclosure: I wanted McD fired after the 13 seconds game. I really don't think the timeout today was a problem. Under no circumstances should we have been kicking the ball off deep with <1 minute to play and rely on our DEF to force a 3 and out. The DEF that allowed 38 points and forced 1 punt the entire game. I'll take my chances with the on-side kick and using the timeout immediately gives the offense more time if we did miraculously recover the kick. Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: McD can’t coach under pressure. He turtles every dang time. It’s unreal. Literally kids that play Madden wouldn’t call timeout there. I don’t even think Matt Eberflus would have. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted December 9 Posted December 9 4 minutes ago, jkeerie said: By taking the penalty, the Bills take LA out of FG range and make it 3rd and 17. The problem was the defense giving up 12 yds on the next play, making it 4th down...then giving up the 5 yds. I don't fault McD. Our defense could not stop LA, and specifically Nakua all game. The Rams offensive starters made the plays when they needed to. For that matter, so did the Bills. It was that dang blocked punt for a TD that made the difference. They hadn’t stopped the Rams all game. The Head Coach should know that. It was a given that they were either converting it or getting a lot of yards. Not to mention the time waste. Quote
PoundingDog Posted December 9 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Einstein said: No it was a run the whole time. They had their heavy formation out there. Really? Josh walked up behind center and no one behind him. Quote
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