An absolute disaster by the coaches at the end of this game

[bmur66]

Yup. That is a spade.

[Ray Stonada]

42 points, 6 touchdowns, 0 turnovers, 445 total yards, 8.2 yards per play, and lost. Inconceivably bad game from the defense, special teams and coaching. 

 

Accepting the holding penalty on 4th and 7 meant burning another 40 seconds of precious game time. Stupid.

 

How could they run a QB sneak instead of passing? When they lined up, I assumed we were going to go play action and toss an easy TD to a lineman or tight end. There was 1:06 on the clock. Rams would have had the ball with 1 minute left, a 3 and out with 3 timeouts would probably get us the ball back with at least 45 seconds, ball on our own 30-40 yard line, needing only a field goal to win a game for the ages, 45-44. 

 

Instead, we run the sneak, and instead of having a second play already called, McDermott called timeout, idiotically. Josh ran over and said something briefly to McDermott after he scored the second sneak, with his hand over his mouth. May have been a bad moment for their relationship--McDermott looked like a muppet with his ears burning after that. Tyler Dunne-article level blunder.

 

Amazingly, that was not the end of the stupidity. Then, there were only 9 guys on defense for the Rams' final punt. And Codrington was not told he had to field the punt and try to score on the last play of the game.

 

Like a bad dream. 

[Ray Stonada]

Brady knew exactly what was happening and the strategic stakes of the situation--he seemed shocked at what we did. As he explained, an onside kick has less than a 10% chance to work.

 

When the Bills lined up jumbo on first and goal, I assumed we were going to go play action and throw over the top to a lineman or tight end for the TD.

 

There was 1:06 on the clock. Rams would have had the ball with 1 minute left, if we could have held them to a 3 and out while using our 3 timeouts, we would have probably gotten the ball back with at least 40 seconds and the ball on our own 30-40 yard line.

 

We would then have needed to drive 25-35 yards for a field goal to win a game for the ages, 45-44.

 

I estimate Josh Allen's chances to do it at 75%-80%.

Edited December 9 by Ray Stonada

[Blackbeard]

Yes. One play lost us the game. 
 

orrrrrrrr maybe the defense played like *****?  Maybe the defense let up 44  points?

 

And I’m not sure Brady “called out” anyone.  

 

 

good god. 

Edited December 9 by Blackbeard

[HomeskillitMoorman]

I mean everyone did. People who are even just casual football viewers were miffed at it. 

 

We have the worst HC in the league and it's not even close to be honest. 

[Ray Stonada]

4 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:

Yes. One play lost us the game. 
 

orrrrrrrr maybe the defense played like *****?  Maybe the defense let up 44  points?

 

 

good god. 

 

One play didn't lose the game, but in that moment, that play reduced our chances to pull out the win by a lot.

 

Couple that with McDermott's record of making strange calls late in close games, and you might understand people getting a little upset. 

 

It's not every game an offense scores 42 points with 6 TDs and 0 turnovers and loses.

 

Edited December 9 by Ray Stonada

[Blackbeard]

24 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

We have the worst HC in the league and it's not even close to be honest. 

Prime example of why this board needs an aptitude test to be able to post.  
 

 

24 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

 

One play didn't lose the game, but in that moment, that play reduced our chances to pull out the win by a lot.

 

Couple that with McDermott's record of making strange calls late in close games, and you might understand people getting a little upset. 

 

It's not every game an offense scores 42 points with 6 TDs and 0 turnovers and loses.

 

You don’t leave it up to decision and calls that are a flip of the coin. 
 

Did McD have his best game ?  I don’t know.  I hear arguments both ways for his last minute calls.  But the glaring issue was the defense.  Not our head coach. 

[The 9 Isles]

From PFT :

 

 

“The Bills are the first team in the Super Bowl era to have six or more touchdowns and no giveaways

and lose. Previously, teams that did that were 245-0.

Receiver Puka Nacua had 12 catches for 162 yards and two total touchdowns.

Josh Allen had three passing touchdowns and three rushing touchdowns. He's the only player to do it in a regular-season game. The only other player to ever do it was Otto Graham in the 1954

NFL Championship.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited December 9 by The 9 Isles

[The Helmet of]

That was a blunder. But it was a small factor in the overall loss.

 

I’m much more concerned with the fact that McVay’s O B-slapped McD’s D up and down the field for 60 minutes. McD and Babich had NO answers.

 

And coach Smiley obviously has egg all over his kisser.

[Dan Darragh]

Brady is a very good analyst. I enjoyed his insights throughout the game especially regarding pass routes.

 

The fact that he was able to make the right call in the goal line situation instantaneously while our OC and HC were scratching their heads is troubling. He may be the GOAT but even a career mediocrity QB like Dan Orlovsky would have known what to do as would any 14 year old who plays a lot of Madden.

[oldmanfan]

42 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

Brady knew exactly what was happening and the strategic stakes of the situation--he seemed shocked at what we did. As he explained, an onside kick has less than a 10% chance to work.

 

When the Bills lined up jumbo on first and goal, I assumed we were going to go play action and throw over the top to a lineman or tight end for the TD.

 

There was 1:06 on the clock. Rams would have had the ball with 1 minute left, if we could have held them to a 3 and out while using our 3 timeouts, we would have probably gotten the ball back with at least 40 seconds and the ball on our own 30-40 yard line.

 

We would then have needed to drive 25-35 yards for a field goal to win a game for the ages, 45-44.

 

I estimate Josh Allen's chances to do it at 75%-80%.

I estimate the chances of all that happening at 3% or less. We had not held them all day,.  McVay would not have just called three runs when he knew one first down wins the game.  

[Dan Darragh]

5 minutes ago, The 9 Isles said:

From PFT :

 

 

The Bills are the first team in the Super Bowl era to have six or more touchdowns and no giveaways

and lose.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't buy the no giveaways bit. IMHO the blocked punt was a giveaway.

[GunnerBill]

Brady was good last night. He has improved massively as the season has gone on IMO.

[Doc Brown]

3 minutes ago, The Helmet of said:

That was a blunder. But it was a small factor in the overall loss.

 

I’m much more concerned with the fact that McVay’s O B-slapped McD’s D up and down the field for 60 minutes. McD and Babich had NO answers.

 

And coach Smiley obviously has egg all over his kisser.

The defense is definitely more concerning but they usually respond well when they lay an egg in the McDermott era so I'm not going to overreact.  They have a chance next week to quickly reverse the narrative.  Credit to Stafford and Nacua though as they played phenomenally with their season on the line.  I agree that Smiley isn't a good special teams coordinator and shouldn't hold the title.

[Ray Stonada]

6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I estimate the chances of all that happening at 3% or less. We had not held them all day,.  McVay would not have just called three runs when he knew one first down wins the game.  

Fair enough. I estimate it as higher than trying an onside kick.

17 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:

Did McD have his best game ?  I don’t know.  I hear arguments both ways for his last minute calls.  But the glaring issue was the defense.  Not our head coach. 

I guess I consider our defense to be the most specific creation of our head coach. Not our offense or special teams. So losing a game where the offense scores 42 with no turnovers falls at least partially on the defensive head coach too. And then the coaching gaffes do too. 

[Bill from NYC]

43 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

I mean everyone did. People who are even just casual football viewers were miffed at it. 

 

We have the worst HC in the league and it's not even close to be honest. 

Seriously? I was never his biggest fan but that is quite the stretch. In fact, he has improved quite a bit this season.

[Doc Brown]

11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Brady was good last night. He has improved massively as the season has gone on IMO.

Yeah.  He got back to what he does best.  Destroying Bills coaches.

[Blackbeard]

1 hour ago, Ray Stonada said:

Fair enough. I estimate it as higher than trying an onside kick.

I guess I consider our defense to be the most specific creation of our head coach. Not our offense or special teams. So losing a game where the offense scores 42 with no turnovers falls at least partially on the defensive head coach too. And then the coaching gaffes do too. 

Generally our D is a well oiled machine.  Yesterday, they weren’t.  Pair that with Stafford, Nacua and Cupp playing phenomenally, and you see the result.  
 

The anti McD crowd was just waiting on something like this to castigate him again. It’s ridiculous.   

Edited December 9 by Blackbeard

[Dan Darragh]

Sean still owes us an explanation of the 13 seconds. No accountability whatsoever, and now each new game management blunder is magnified 100-fold.

[BillMafia716ix]

I don’t think they realized how far away they were on that sneak attempt. They usually do the sneak inside the 1 yard line. The ball was on the 1.5 yard line. Big difference when attempting the sneak.