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1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Is it more likely that we recover an onside kick?

 

Or that our DEF, with how they had played that game, force a 3 and out (or turnover)?

 

Personally I'll take the 3% chance at an onside kick.

 

Our odds on D are better than 3%. Not much, today, but more than 3%.

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4 hours ago, Success said:

Accepting the penalty on the Rams drive.

 

Then, calling TIME OUT.  Could have rushed to the line there & still been able to stop the clock.  That ended the game.  Dumb, dumb, dumb.

 

It happens in every close game with the Bills. This is a pattern.

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5 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Is it more likely that we recover an onside kick?

 

Or that our DEF, with how they had played that game, force a 3 and out (or turnover)?

 

Personally I'll take the 3% chance at an onside kick.

You dont have to choose with 3 TO's

 

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4 hours ago, Andrew Son said:

Not only that but they doubled up the the sneak again!

 


At that point it didn’t matter. The game was over. Could have burned all three. 

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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

The Timeout was inexcusable. No reason to do that. I didn't like the push call to begin with. At the Goal Line, you do that for a yard or less. Anything over that and you're pushing your luck there.

 

The Accepted Penalty I don't see as egregious as everyone else. They weren't going to go for a Long Field Goal from there. They would have gone for it. With Ingram on either Nacua or Kupp and with the way their Offense was going and our Defense was, they'd have made the 4th and 7 just like they got 12 on 3rd and then converted from 4th and 5. 

 

The biggest coaching blunder was the push on a yard plus from the Goal Line and calling the timeout when it was unsuccessful. Yes, that was awful. Everything else was on terrible Secondary and Linebacker play and poor execution from the Special Teams on the Blocked Punt. If not for that Blocked Punt, Josh's MVP level play would have won the game - even with everything else going as it had.


Bingo. Perfectly summed up across the board. 
 

You can disagree and agree with the penalty accepting/declining. The run play and use of timeout? Absolutely not. Total blunder. As big a blunder as not making the adjustment on coverage scheme for Puka with a pass rush that’s not getting anywhere near the QB. 

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McDermott’s success (winning percentage) is based solely by the timing of his hire. Having one of the best athletes in the world on your team (at the most important position) for nearly his entire tenure is why he still has a job.


He’s so bad with clock/end of game management it’s basically a meme here. The only time I’ve ever seen a decision of his actually win a game (versus not lose it) was this year against KC to go for it on fourth and 2. That showed balls for the first time in his career. I thought we had turned a corner. 
 

Running the ball there was an awful decision - just awful.  But calling the timeout is inexcusable. Like others have said, even though getting that pile undone and snapping the ball would have taken 15 seconds, calling the timeout instantly ended the game. 

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1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

swear to God I thought he looked very perturbed walking up under center for that first QB sneak

 

He should have spiked it and told Brady to try again.

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6 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

McDermott’s success (winning percentage) is based solely by the timing of his hire. Having one of the best athletes in the world on your team (at the most important position) for nearly his entire tenure is why he still has a job.


He’s so bad with clock/end of game management it’s basically a meme here. The only time I’ve ever seen a decision of his actually win a game (versus not lose it) was this year against KC to go for it on fourth and 2. That showed balls for the first time in his career. I thought we had turned a corner. 
 

Running the ball there was an awful decision - just awful.  But calling the timeout is inexcusable. Like others have said, even though getting that pile undone and snapping the ball would have taken 15 seconds, calling the timeout instantly ended the game. 


The question becomes did he sign off on the run call? I don’t know. His press conference does suggest it though as he talks about it being their “best chance to score”. That’s a problem. Situational awareness non-existent.
 

After watching the game again and, I hate to speculate such, but you get the sense the timeout is one of panic that the play failed. Reverting back to his press conference there is little to no confidence in his reasoning for calling the timeout to begin with… he talks about both options not being great. Again, situational awareness non-existent. 
 

Don’t like ragging on anyone, let alone a guy who’s churning out a winning program but we know what we have in our QB/cornerstone of the franchise. Game day coaching errors are something that rears its head more than any fan would like. 

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People saying it doesn’t matter because we couldn’t stop them with 3 timeouts anyway is the same loser energy of absolving Bass for missing a 40 yard FG to tie up the Divisional Round Game against KC.  
 

Anything can happen and we clearly now, two years in a row, seem to think our Defensive HC has zero ability to get a stop at the end of a game if the QB isn’t Tua. 

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The question becomes did he sign off on the run call? I don’t know. His press conference does suggest it though as he talks about it being their “best chance to score”. That’s a problem. Situational awareness non-existent.
 

After watching the game again and, I hate to speculate such, but you get the sense the timeout is one of panic that the play failed. Reverting back to his press conference there is little to no confidence in his reasoning for calling the timeout to begin with… he talks about both options not being great. Again, situational awareness non-existent. 
 

Don’t like ragging on anyone, let alone a guy who’s churning out a winning program but we know what we have in our QB/cornerstone of the franchise. Game day coaching errors are something that rears its head more than any fan would like. 


McDermott could’ve went over the headset and said “what’s our best play and remember we cannot burn a timeout”

 

Someone, somewhere in the chain of command, needs to realize you cannot call that play there.  

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How many unbelievably spectacular performances from Josh has McClappy ruined with Pop Warner coaching? Three? Four?
 

I don’t care how good he is at the microphone in a press conference, Josh has to get frustrated with this crap. Having to say (as he did) that “all three aspects need to be better” - after he became the first NFL player ever to throw for three and run three TDs - has to get old. I’d love to be a fly on the wall of his real conversations at home after a game like this. 

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Terrible. I'm telling you, they could hire a good madden player, and they would have a better feel of what to do in crucial game situations. Using a TO at the end is the ONE THING you can't do. And yes, let them have that FG attempt. Let the offense have all that time left with 3 TO and pretty sure we win... 

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2 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

How many unbelievably spectacular performances from Josh has McClappy ruined with Pop Warner coaching? Three? Four?
 

I don’t care how good he is at the microphone in a press conference, Josh has to get frustrated with this crap. Having to say (as he did) that “all three aspects need to be better” - after he became the first NFL player ever to throw for three and run three TDs - has to get old. I’d love to be a fly on the wall of his real conversations at home after a game like this. 

You score 42 you win most games unless you give up a punt block return for a TD, and proceed to get zero stops in the RZ or on 3rd down. It took an epic effort by Babich, McDermott and the 30 year olds on defense to blow this game. Luckily they were content to sit back and get picked apart by the old man QB. 

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4 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

How does that pile get up in time to run another play.  The call was idiotic.  Was that on JA or OC? 

 

I think other teams have figured this play out and it is not nearly as effective as it once was. The Rams stopped it earlier in the game too.  When we first started running it it was 100% and Josh often got 3, 4, 5 yards.  Not so much these days.

 

You know, you can run some other play in that situation.

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The coaches lost this game before they even stepped on the field. Dorian should be starting. And Elam is a better man cover corner than Ingram. At least dress in case Rasul is not healthy or zone is getting shredded. Has the coaching staff lost faith in Dorian? He seemed fine games 1-11? What changed?

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1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Are you saying you don't know what McD did well, but you're confident there's something he did?

I answered already. Any positive thing that happened, the head coach shares credit. He created everything. He empowers the other coaches to do their jobs. He created the environment for Josh Allen to flourish. He readies the players to play each week. He provides leadership and motivation. He does all the head coach things that lead to success week in and week out.

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Don't know how we consistently have below average special teams despite multiple cycles of firing all the coaches and changing the specialists. Might be time for that again.

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It’s the same BS as 13 seconds, and it’s going to keep happening.

 

Josh literally puts on an all time great performance, again, and Sean Midermott can’t hold up his end of the bargain in a close game, again.

 

 I get Terry is likely just content with being “relevant” on the national stage, but the greatest player ever to step on a football field might eventually get tired of having his career wasted with a coach who routinely chokes in the biggest spots.

 

We all know a Josh is an upstanding guy, but at a certain point, how many times can he be expected to just keep running it back? 
If Midermott’s soft defense costs them, again, in the postseason, I just hope we don’t see Josh try and force his way out… he did grow up a Niners fan, and it would be a lot closer to his future wife. I’d probably stop watching football if that happened, but if the playoffs end the way they have every other year under Sean Midermott, I couldn’t blame him.

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1 hour ago, Bookie Man said:

 I'm telling you, they could hire a good madden player, and they would have a better feel of what to do in crucial game situations.

 

Your quote will get laughed at, but I'm in 100% agreement. These top Madden players that play competitively are put in these situations thousands of times per year, compared to an NFL coach which is only a handful. These guys probably can't even catch a football and know jack squat about Xs and Os, but clock management is  second nature to them because over the past 2 decades they've been in these situations probably over 20,000+ times. They know how to maximize every single second of the clock.

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6 hours ago, Success said:

Accepting the penalty on the Rams drive.

 

Then, calling TIME OUT.  Could have rushed to the line there & still been able to stop the clock.  That ended the game.  Dumb, dumb, dumb.

 

 

Ironically the 2 things you're mad about contradicted each other. 

 

He accepted the penalty because he trusted his D.

 

Later, he basically admitted he called the timeout because he didn't trust his D.

 

To me, that TO was criminal.

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The punt block TD and McDermott choosing to run on our last possession with 3 timeouts was the difference in the game. Tom Brady called out our wasted timeout live. Tom fully explained the situation and exclaimed that McDermott's decision basically made it impossible to win the game.

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