An absolute disaster by the coaches at the end of this game

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

What do you think he did well tonight?

 

See here’s the thing.

 

I can answer what Benford did well tonight, despite the defenses poor performance. 
 

I can answer what Josh did well tonight.

 

Or Shakir. Or Mack freaking Hollins. 
 

And yet everyone weeping crocodile tears for the poor, maligned, defensive HC that got ripped apart AND bungled the end of game situation cannot answer a SINGLE THING he did well tonight. lmao.

 

Agree with this. Got ridiculed, thumbs down. 

 

With you no this. 

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

What do you think he did well tonight?

 

See here’s the thing.

 

I can answer what Benford did well tonight, despite the defenses poor performance. 
 

I can answer what Josh did well tonight.

 

Or Shakir. Or Mack freaking Hollins. 
 

And yet everyone weeping crocodile tears for the poor, maligned, defensive HC that got ripped apart AND bungled the end of game situation cannot answer a SINGLE THING he did well tonight. lmao.

Say it

 

say ' @GoBills808 you've been right since 2020 and I'm sorry I doubted you'

[zow2]

It’s just galling that Allen has one of the all time great stat lines, McVay is calling him an alien and McDermott finds a way to completely end the game by calling timeout when saving all 3 was our only chance to get the ball back. 

[FireChans]

6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Say it

 

say ' @GoBills808 you've been right since 2020 and I'm sorry I doubted you'

I haven’t the slightest idea what you mean. This is the first time we have ever spoken I think.

[Simon]

Here's some food for thought:

 

On the Bills last possession, Allen had a few opportunities to pick up first downs with his feet but he smartly eschewed them because he knew he could not afford to break up the Bills full set of three available TO's down two scores. Somehow he managed to drive the ball all the way down to the one yard line in under a minute without using any of those time-outs.

Is Josh Allen a better coach than Sean McDermott? 

[Process]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

Here's some food for thought:

 

On the Bills last possession, Allen had a few opportunities to pick up first downs with his feet but he smartly eschewed them because he knew he could not afford to break up the Bills full set of three available TO's down two scores. Somehow he managed to drive the ball all the way down to the one yard line in under a minute without using any of those time-outs.

Is Josh Allen a better coach than Sean McDermott? 

That was my exact thought on the throw to the sideline to Johnson. 

 

Allen knew. 

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

Here's some food for thought:

 

On the Bills last possession, Allen had a few opportunities to pick up first downs with his feet but he smartly eschewed them because he knew he could not afford to break up the Bills full set of three available TO's down two scores. Somehow he managed to drive the ball all the way down to the one yard line in under a minute without using any of those time-outs.

Is Josh Allen a better coach than Sean McDermott? 

 swear to God I thought he looked very perturbed walking up under center for that first QB sneak

1 minute ago, Process said:

That was my exact thought on the throw to the sideline to Johnson. 

 

Allen knew. 

Of course he knew, he even made a face to the sidelines like 'well I had to, we can't burn a TO'

[FireChans]

8 minutes ago, Simon said:

Here's some food for thought:

 

On the Bills last possession, Allen had a few opportunities to pick up first downs with his feet but he smartly eschewed them because he knew he could not afford to break up the Bills full set of three available TO's down two scores. Somehow he managed to drive the ball all the way down to the one yard line in under a minute without using any of those time-outs.

Is Josh Allen a better coach than Sean McDermott? 

Technically, McD gets credit for Josh having a better understanding of time, score and situation than him because he’s the HC. 

[Maine-iac]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Technically, McD gets credit for Josh having a better understanding of time, score and situation than him because he’s the HC. 

Do we have to technically blame this on Brady because even though McD was dumb enough to call a time out when we needed all 3 if someone hadn't called a run on first and goal he wouldn't have called the time out.

[Dr.Sack]

McDermott had his worst game of the season. Not very Allen like today. 

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Maine-iac said:

Do we have to technically blame this on Brady because even though McD was dumb enough to call a time out when we needed all 3 if someone hadn't called a run on first and goal he wouldn't have called the time out.

Technically, I think we technically have to blame it on the stadium being built on the burial ground 

[TheWeatherMan]

Zero half time adjustments made with the Bills defense.  Staying in zone with single coverage on Puka worked so well in the first half they decided to double up in the second 🤦🏻‍♂️.  

[dave mcbride]

41 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

For those who are actively or passive aggressively defending the coaching in this game, do you think that the coaching put the team in the best position to win this game?

 

do you trust this staff in a tight game, high-leverage situation?

They were better than our slow secondary and WEAK pass rush. Starts an ends there.

2 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Zero half time adjustments made with the Bills defense.  Staying in zone with single coverage on Puka worked so well in the first half they decided to double up in the second 🤦🏻‍♂️.  

The D, collectively, is slow. Belichick said it 10 weeks ago.

Edited December 9 by dave mcbride

[Dr.Sack]

I think Elam should have played. You would have to think he’s a better man defender than 5th year journeyman Ingram. In case zone defense isn’t working. 

[Bermuda Triangle]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

They were better than our slow secondary and WEAK pass rush. Starts an ends there.

Basically, a non-answer, as far as my questions are concerned.  

[BillsFanForever19]

The Timeout was inexcusable. No reason to do that. I didn't like the push call to begin with. At the Goal Line, you do that for a yard or less. Anything over that and you're pushing your luck there.

 

The Accepted Penalty I don't see as egregious as everyone else. They weren't going to go for a Long Field Goal from there. They would have gone for it. With Ingram on either Nacua or Kupp and with the way their Offense was going and our Defense was, they'd have made the 4th and 7 just like they got 12 on 3rd and then converted from 4th and 5. 

 

The biggest coaching blunder was the push on a yard plus from the Goal Line and calling the timeout when it was unsuccessful. Yes, that was awful. Everything else was on terrible Secondary and Linebacker play and poor execution from the Special Teams on the Blocked Punt. If not for that Blocked Punt, Josh's MVP level play would have won the game - even with everything else going as it had.

Edited December 9 by BillsFanForever19

[MJS]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

What do you think he did well tonight?

 

See here’s the thing.

 

I can answer what Benford did well tonight, despite the defenses poor performance. 
 

I can answer what Josh did well tonight.

 

Or Shakir. Or Mack freaking Hollins. 
 

And yet everyone weeping crocodile tears for the poor, maligned, defensive HC that got ripped apart AND bungled the end of game situation cannot answer a SINGLE THING he did well tonight. lmao.

Those are players. Of course you can point to the specifics of what they did right. They are on the field. It is ALWAYS much easier to evaluate players than coaches because you can see the execution.

[FireChans]

5 minutes ago, MJS said:

Those are players. Of course you can point to the specifics of what they did right. They are on the field. It is ALWAYS much easier to evaluate players than coaches because you can see the execution.

Are you saying you don't know what McD did well, but you're confident there's something he did?

[Billsatlastin2018]

3 hours ago, Process said:

1. Declining the penalty on 3rd and 7 was clearly the correct move YOU NEED A TD TD WIN NO MATTER WHAT. Would have been 4th and 7 vs 4th and 5. Would they have kicked the FG with 7 yards needed instead of 5? Who knows., but the decision was wrong regardless. 

 

and somehow this next one is  10000x worse. 

 

2. You can not, under any circumstance. call a TO after the  QB sneak. Sneaking it is dumb, but if you are going to do it you tell the guys if they stop it you hurry up, spend 10 seconds getting back to the line, and run it again. The second Sean called TO the game was over. 

Of course! You don’t give the Rams another play there- EVER! You force them to make the decision about going on 4th Down.

 

And the TO at the Goal Line? That was all ‘13 Seconds’ idiocy by McClapper! You can never,ever call a TO. That means automatic Loss! The correct play is to have Josh get everybody up immediately and fake a spike and throw it in. If you fail, throw twice more! That allows for a standard KO and 3 TOs to stop the clock.

 

McClapper is an end of game coaching buffoon! He simply does not have the instant comprehension to figure out the correct critical decisions!

 

The D was horrific, but McD waived the white flag at game’s end, which he invariably does.

 

Should the Bills make the SB, I pray he NEVER needs to make end of half/ game decisions! 
 

You know they will be wrong, wrong, wrong! 
 

 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

Is it more likely that we recover an onside kick?

 

Or that our DEF, with how they had played that game, force a 3 and out (or turnover)?

 

Personally I'll take the 3% chance at an onside kick.