An absolute disaster by the coaches at the end of this game

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

He’s correct. We would have lost a ton of time resetting from the pile. 
 

There was no good plan after the sneak failed. 

no

 

3 timeouts are far more valuable in that situation than whatever 8-10seconds are going to run off the clock between downs

[mike22nc]

Just now, Roundybout said:

We will agree to disagree. 

But you are objectively wrong...

[DJB]

1 minute ago, Process said:

Read it again

My mistake I thought you had written accept for some reason 😂

 

Im just fired up and upset all good bro 

[djp14150]

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

You decline the penalty if only to save the time on the clock.

That is another factor. It saves 45 seconds on the clock even if the went for it on 4 th doen and made it and everything else the same

 

the way this game was going you take 4 and 7 vs 3 rd and 15.  If they got a FZg thr game wasn’t over.

[NoSaint]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Here's the thing that no one is talking about..

 

Accept or decline? You can make an argument either way.

 

But the most idiotic thing?

 

You accept the penalty and then play a PREVENT defence which allows them to get the yards back and chew more clock up.

 

If you accept it, you HAVE to be aggressive on defence and try to force a punt, not play prevent

bingo. It’s sequenced decisions that are out of alignment and don’t make sense that are most maddening. Take a 10 yard penalty then play a design to give up a minimum of 10 yards?!? 
 

I hate the sneak but if nothing else have a second hurry up play called if it fails so you can line up quick. Everyone’s on the line just standing up. 

[Rocbillsfan1]

1 hour ago, Success said:

The time out is inexcusable.  Amateur move.  How do you now understand that situation?

 

I've been a McD supporter. But that's horrific.

 

I get that we are want to pile on McDermott but he doesn’t make the play calls, Joe Brady does and he’s still basically in his first full year with Josh. I know Josh had a heroic day but I’m actually a little disappointed that Josh didn’t check out of that play. He’s allowed to check out of stuff and he should have been the final failsafe on that to say no this isn’t the right call.

[Maine-iac]

5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'm listening now and I'm in shock! Genuinely thought he was going to come up to the podium and say "this loss is on me", instead he's actually saying that they did what they thought was the best course of action. In his opening statement he says "I wish we had run the ball with our RBs more". He has no clue what even caused this loss. Wow.

I was always in the house of "run the ball" but clearly we could throw all day on these guys.  Moreover the problem was never offense or moving the ball.

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, mike22nc said:

But you are objectively wrong...

No I’m not. I’m fine stopping the clock there. 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

...but you don't like to see those kind of coaching mistakes. Not for a serious contender. Less discussed was our not fielding the punt but not putting an extra rusher to block the kick. 

 

Codger may have just made a mistake there, but needed to field it. 

The mistake was even having someone back there, needed to go after the punter for a block

 

The sky high punt was always going to result in no return 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Can we just hire a guy that understands football to make the gameday decisions. Or at least consult McDermott? A 12 year old that plays madden can at least tell him when to call time out and challenge

[zow2]

It would’ve been nice if McDermott and Babich could’ve stopped the Rams on a few drives before those late botches.  We are really vulnerable on D.  My SB dreams have been tempered.

[seattlebillsfan]

Not sure if this point has been made but to me the bigger issue on the accepted penalty was clock management. No matter what happens, you are giving up an extra 30 seconds by accepting the penalty. Those 30 seconds were solid gold. Bizarre to even think about it. Time trumps all in that situation…

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

The mistake was even having someone back there, needed to go after the punter for a block

 

They couldn't because they only had 9 guys on the field 

[mike22nc]

Just now, Roundybout said:

No I’m not. I’m fine stopping the clock there. 

Then you are fine saying the only chance you are going to have is a successful onside kick rather than either a successful onside kick OR getting the ball back with limited time after being able to call 3 defensive timeouts. 

 

I don't need to do the math on it to know which one is better decision. Again, it isn't subjective. 

[BillsFan130]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

bingo. It’s sequenced decisions that are out of alignment and don’t make sense that are most maddening. Take a 10 yard penalty then play a design to give up a minimum of 10 yards?!? 
 

I hate the sneak but if nothing else have a second hurry up play called if it fails so you can line up quick. Everyone’s on the line just standing up. 

Exactly. It literally makes no sense. Just contradicting in so many ways. McDermott really failed this team today 

[Maine-iac]

Did he say maybe someday we'll start making worthwhile adjustments in the first half?

[NoSaint]

9 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

He’s correct. We would have lost a ton of time resetting from the pile. 
 

There was no good plan after the sneak failed. 

then you can’t allow the play call

[mike22nc]

26 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Can we just hire a guy that understands football to make the gameday decisions. Or at least consult McDermott? A 12 year old that plays madden can at least tell him when to call time out and challenge

This is what I keep coming back to. How does a 50+ year old man who has played and coached football his entire life, and has been successful enough to become an NFL head coach, not understand what the correct decision-making is here? It is so completely obvious. It isn't even complicated.

Edited December 9 by mike22nc

[All_Pro_Bills]

The customary end-of-game coaching gaffes and a defense that performs like a JV team against the better offenses. What this means even with Allen and a deadly offense is one home playoff game and out in the divisional round.

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 minute ago, mike22nc said:

This is what I keep coming back to. How does a 50+ year old man who has played and coached football his entire life, and has been successful enough to become an NFL head coach not understand what the correct decision-making is here? It is so completely obvious. It isn't even complicated.

Because he’s dumb. He’s good during the week at getting guys ready and he’s good at getting guys to play hard. His scheme sucks and on gameday he’s clueless. During the game he is a problem for us. We almost need a gameday coach to help him.