An absolute disaster by the coaches at the end of this game

[Maine-iac]

The defense adjusted and looked better the second half.  I'm not saying good I'm saying better.  The adjustments can't come in the second half.  We need to start making these defensive adjustments much much earlier.  I think we have been masters at playing zone for a long long time but there are games where I think some man coverage would go a long way to making us less predictable.

[RyanC883]

I’d keep Brady.  He has been good so far

[ProcessImproverMan]

5 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

Yea, its typical of fans to blame coaches when things go badly. Sometimes players just get whipped sometimes and they sure got whipped today. When I was a young HS coach, a veteran coach once told me the whole town used to think we were geniuses when we were winning titles year in and year out and now they think we're a bunch of dumbasses because we have a losing program. We have literally taught the same stuff year in and year out the only thing that changes are the players. Not entirely the same here but the truth is fans are always looking for someone to blame and the coaches are an easy target.

Difference is High Schools often don't have the ability to choose the students who attend. You get the class you get based on a students residency unless you are a private school. 

 

NFL you can draft people and win them over in free agency. And numerous first round picks McDermott helped pick on defense and all that free agency money spent on it got the same predictable results against a top offense. Zero pass rush. Tons of points scored. 

 

Truly great guys like Belichick win games without all that investment against top offenses. See Patriots defense shutting down Mannings Colts repeatedly in the playoffs, even when he had a receiver in Troy Brown playing corner due to injuries. See Belichick beating the great Rams offense twice in Super Bowls where Brady had a tiny fraction of the offensive production in those games compared to what Allen has had in key playoff games. See Giants plan against the Bills top offense in the Super Bowl. 

Edited December 9 by ProcessImproverMan

[<bills4life>]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

 

it’s not a meaningless loss when you are trying to get the 1 aeed.

 

this is so a continuation of McD late game blunders. 

 

the d was awful, but that does not excuse the HC continuing to make late game errors

So much for McDermotts “growth mindset mentality”. He better take that Sauron all seeing eye and beam it directly on himself. 

[Eastport bills]

You can’t trust Sean in these big spots because he is just not up to it. That timeout was him giving up. The most frustrating part of it is that our defense stopped their offense once the whole game.  Why would you think we would stop them from getting a 1st down if  they needed one? This is the only way we lose. A shootout where we get out scored  and our defense can’t get near a quality QB with excellent receiving.

[Bills aPHILLYate]

I know the pitchforks are out for the coach of a 10-3 team but folks need to stop being hyper emotional. 

 

There is logic to both sides of the coin when it comes to the penalty decision. 

 

Unanimously I think it was terrible to not pass every down on the goal line for time preservation reasons.

 

Giving up 44pts and not being able to make a defensive stand all game was the ultimate undoing

 

This is not under any circumstances a sky is falling situation

 

🔥 away if you feel

 

 

[starrymessenger]

2 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

It would have taken close to 35 seconds

 

The issue is the play call, the time out is such a hit debate because the bills needed to conserve the time outs 

 

You never run a play up the middle on a sneak if you're trying to save time

Even if you are 100% sure the QB will score? Bills must have thought so. And if you believe it its the most efficient time wise.

[letsgoteam]

2 minutes ago, Governor said:

Complaining about a TO when the game was already over is pretty silly but his defense was horrible as usual. It will never be good enough.

How was the game over? A 3 and out gives the Bills the ball back. I am not saying the Bills would win. All I am saying it gave them a CHANCE. 

That is why everyone is so mad (on top of the historical late game (and late first half) mishaps). 

 

I'm not mad about the declining 4th & 7. 

 

I'm disappointed about the timeout. It was such an obvious mistake.

[Einstein]

Just now, Bills aPHILLYate said:

There is logic to both sides of the coin when it comes to the penalty decision. 

 

There may be logic to accepting the penalty in a different game where the defense was playing well and we had more time.

 

There was no logic in accepting the penalty in a game where the defense was getting gashed and we were running out of time.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

8 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

Some of y'all...sheesh. 🙄

You’re right it was great 

[Talleywhacker]

I think 90% of this thread would not have noticed the time mgmt if Brady had not pointed it out

[CincyBillsFan]

34 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

😂😂😂😂😂

 

 

Incredible stuff. All of a sudden McD is literally Hitler 

No but the questions linger. 

[Maine-iac]

10 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

The answer is right in your post.

 

They burned nearly ANOTHER FULL MINUTE off the clock by accepting that penalty.

 

So we gave them an extra yard AND a gift of burning a minute.

 

It was a lose-lose!

One minute of clock (while we still had all 3 timeouts) was well worth hopefully holding them out of FG range.  Then we let them back in FG range and then we gave up 4th and 5 and eventually the TD.  All said and done we hold them to a FG at all and we possibly win the game.  Defense got McVay'd.

[<bills4life>]

1 minute ago, Talleywhacker said:

I think 90% of this thread would not have noticed the time mgmt if Brady had not pointed it out

Ummmm no 

[Rew]

People want to blame everything on the last thing they saw.  We can't give up a ST touchdown and have to get more than 1 D stop in a game.   The defense has a really bad game.  We knew coming into the season that they were suspect and that everyone has overachieved across the board to get us to where we are.  It's been great to hope that the defense could continue to be flawless and generate turnovers, but unrealistic.  Hopefully today we saw the floor and somewhere is the middle is where we end up in the playoffs.

 

We should be spending time talking about the defense and not a tightrope path to the last 2 minutes (it should not come down to that).

Edited December 9 by Rew

[Chugga]

I hate the title of this thread because it kinda glances over the absolute disaster this defense was from the first snap.

 

Aside from Von & AJ making some decent plays on the jet sweeps in the second half, the defense made absolutely ZERO changes in coverage despite their zone defense being absolutely shredded the entire game.

[Talleywhacker]

Just now, &lt;bills4life&gt; said:

Ummmm no 

Save for the professional armchair QBs like you

[Maine-iac]

1 minute ago, Talleywhacker said:

I think 90% of this thread would not have noticed the time mgmt if Brady had not pointed it out

Nope.  I was actaully expecting McD to call it before the 2 minute warning for some dumb reason thinking the 2 minute warning would be another time out.  I was excited when the two minute warning came and went because I thought he understood we needed all three time outs to get the ball back.  Guess he fooled me.

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Talleywhacker said:

I think 90% of this thread would not have noticed the time mgmt if Brady had not pointed it out

We all noticed at my house.  When they lined up for the tush push we ALL said "don't use a TO if you don't make it.  Line up and run it again".  We also were all screaming at the TV for them to line up in the shot gun and not do the tush push.

 

Again we make excuses for another coaching melt down at a critical point in a game. 

[Einstein]

Just now, Maine-iac said:

One minute of clock (while we still had all 3 timeouts)

 

A minute of clock wasted with 4 minutes left is literally 25% of the game remaining!

 

Just now, Maine-iac said:

 

was well worth hopefully holding them out of FG range.  Then we let them back in FG range and then we gave up 4th and 5 and eventually the TD.  All said and done we hold them to a FG at all and we possibly win the game.  Defense got McVay'd.

 

Maybe in a different game where the defense was playing well. 

 

Not in a game where the defense was getting gashed and it was more probable than not that they get gashed on the next play.

 

I don’t think that even McD would defend the decision right now.