12/8/24 Game 14 GAMEDAY! Bills vs Rams post game Thread

[Coffeesforclosers]

55 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

Are the bills 10-3 or 3-10? I cant tell based off of the comments here 

 

All we have to do is fire everyone, then go to the Superbowl Caliber Coach store, and buy a Superbowl Caliber coach.  

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

All we have to do is fire everyone, then go to the Superbowl Caliber Coach store, and buy a Superbowl Caliber coach.  

 

 

Exactly ! Why haven’t they thought of this ? 

[JimmyNoodles]

The Bills had to blitz yesterday to try and stop the run and pass.  I know the pass blitzing was picked up pretty easily and you pay the price when it is. I saw the run blitzes make some stops. Not sure how that fared overall. The bigger point however, is that if that is how you’re relying on making stops, by having to sell out to apply pressure to the run or pass, your defense sucks. And our defense sucked yesterday. Blame the players or scheme or both but we sucked. Unfortunately this won’t be the last time you see a performance like this. 

[Coffeesforclosers]

4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Exactly ! Why haven’t they thought of this ? 

 

One more reason to fire McBeane! And all the analytics guys! And probably the women who run the beer counter too!

 

 

[Koufax]

Also, hidden play of the day was the first half 3rd and 2 with 1:20 left at the -41. 
 

Not sure on play design since it broke down but not having a play where Shakir being always open somewhere 5-10 and Josh throwing the ball 40 yards to an area where three receivers and four defenders were is a play you want back. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, Koufax said:

Also, hidden play of the day was the first half 3rd and 2 with 1:20 left at the -41. 
 

Not sure on play design since it broke down but not having a play where Shakir being always open somewhere 5-10 and Josh throwing the ball 40 yards to an area where three receivers and four defenders were is a play you want back. 

Yea that was a tough one…I think the third down call is different and we go for it on 4th and short worst case if our coaches didn’t think they could turn things around on the defensive side in the second half.  Idk if that makes me feel better or worse though 😂

[The Jokeman]

5 minutes ago, Koufax said:

Also, hidden play of the day was the first half 3rd and 2 with 1:20 left at the -41. 
 

Not sure on play design since it broke down but not having a play where Shakir being always open somewhere 5-10 and Josh throwing the ball 40 yards to an area where three receivers and four defenders were is a play you want back. 

Big miss there, if we get first down we might also get a few more yards and have enough time to get in FG range. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

25 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said:

The Bills had to blitz yesterday to try and stop the run and pass.  I know the pass blitzing was picked up pretty easily and you pay the price when it is. I saw the run blitzes make some stops. Not sure how that fared overall. The bigger point however, is that if that is how you’re relying on making stops, by having to sell out to apply pressure to the run or pass, your defense sucks. And our defense sucked yesterday. Blame the players or scheme or both but we sucked. Unfortunately this won’t be the last time you see a performance like this. 

I mean most teams usually sell out to stop the run or pass. I’d argue the opposite and say we should’ve started the game doing this ‘selling out’ you speak of 🤣. Second half defense looked much better to me and they were consistently in position but staffords ball placement was so good the rams still made plays.  I would’ve forced him to do that for 60 minutes rather than 30 and we probably win.  I think that’s what we’re gonna see against the lions 

 

Edited December 9 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Chandler#81]

4 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

where are you getting this from? In the cover 1 pre-game podcast, they mentioned the Rams run D wasn’t very good. And I am looking at the 2024 stats, and the Rams look to be bottom 5 in the league in run D (total yards). 

Their DL is new/very young. We all know who’s gone/left in recent years. But the kids are learning quickly and I believe they’ll be a force very soon. I get it, though. I read overall stats and on paper they’re susceptible. But they’re really not. They smoked us yesterday while we torched them with the pass.

[JimmyNoodles]

5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I mean most teams usually sell out to stop the run or pass. I’d argue the opposite and say we should’ve started the game doing this ‘selling out’ you speak of 🤣. Second half defense looked much better to me and they were consistently in position but staffords ball placement was so good the rams still made plays.  I would’ve forced him to do that for 60 minutes rather than 30 and we probably win.  I think that’s what we’re gonna see against the lions 

 

We’ll have agree to disagree on this one. You shouldn’t have to blitz to stop the run. Pass blitzing was because we got zero pressure with 4 rushers. Good QBs will kill you if pass blitzes aren’t successful.

They were embarrassed this week, so next week will probably look better but the deficiencies remain the same. 

[Sweats]

You got to give the Rams and McVay credit for exposing our weakness on D.

 

They knew to sit Nacua and Kupp in our soft zone and exploit it all day long. Stafford was our daddy.......you can't give a veteran QB that much time with zero pressure in the pocket to pick us apart.

 

We made zero adjustments and couldn't stop them all day long.

Everyone wants to blame McD for blowing the TO at the end of the game, but our D blew it long, longgggggggggg before then.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said:

We’ll have agree to disagree on this one. You shouldn’t have to blitz to stop the run. Pass blitzing was because we got zero pressure with 4 rushers. Good QBs will kill you if pass blitzes aren’t successful.

They were embarrassed this week, so next week will probably look better but the deficiencies remain the same. 

Yes I guess we will lol run blitzes were blowing up enough runs to force 3rd and medium/longs in the second half and forced the rams into some real tough throw/catches they just happened to hit them all. I don’t understand how that objectively wouldn’t have been the better choice all game.  
 

despite not getting enough push up front on passing plays throughout things definitely seemed to tighten up where Stafford had a much lower margin of error.  

 

I think the philosophy of ‘run a base nickel with dbs giving cushion that’s ok against run and good against pass in ideal circumstances but doesn’t do much of anything in bad circumstances’ maybe gets swayed from in the future.  Should be interesting to see how we handle the lions 

 

I don’t really understand this ‘too proud to run blitz because front 7s should in theory stop the run without that’ attitude lol. If teams are gonna go run heavy there’s a good shot you blow up a lot of runs in the backfield/at the LOS even with a big mismatch in the trenches

[JimmyNoodles]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Yes I guess we will lol run blitzes were blowing up enough runs to force 3rd and medium/longs in the second half and forced the rams into some real tough throw/catches they just happened to hit them all. I don’t understand how that objectively wouldn’t have been the better choice all game.  
 

despite not getting enough push up front on passing plays throughout things definitely seemed to tighten up where Stafford had a much lower margin of error.  

 

I think the philosophy of ‘run a base nickel with dbs giving cushion that’s ok against run and good against pass in ideal circumstances but doesn’t do much of anything in bad circumstances’ maybe gets swayed from in the future.  Should be interesting to see how we handle the lions 

 

I don’t really understand this ‘too proud to run blitz because front 7s should in theory stop the run without that’ attitude lol. If teams are gonna go run heavy there’s a good shot you blow up a lot of runs in the backfield/at the LOS even with a big mismatch in the trenches

It’s not about being too proud, lol. We can’t stop the run. You’re right we have to blitz but when you don’t get home you risk long runs.  

[RichRiderBills]

1 hour ago, gordong said:

does it matter when the defense has the performance like it did yesterday?   forced One punt... ONE.   PUTRID performance

 

We did force 2 total w last punt. 

 

Point remains, if we got one more punt out of them we win. Sad. 

[boyst]

2 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

Are the bills 10-3 or 3-10? I cant tell based off of the comments here 

Taking your cousin to prom is still going to the big dance right?

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

13 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said:

It’s not about being too proud, lol. We can’t stop the run. You’re right we have to blitz but when you don’t get home you risk long runs.  

Haha I mean I was half kidding with that…but the run blitzing worked in this one.  Saying we shouldn’t have done it because there’s risk involved is bizarre to me.  

risk is important sure and you want to put the opposing offense in riskier situations rather than letting them just walk down the field.  At worst you’re giving up a fast td rather than a slow time consuming td the way not run blitzing was going.  You shouldn’t just not run blitz because theoretically good defenses don’t have to 😂 I don’t get that 

 

to me mcd finally made an adjustment to be more aggressive knowing a qb on fire like that could easily make the plays needed to put together a long td drive if you play soft.  maybe it’s getting lost a bit cuz of the dumb sneak decision but I think that’s a positive still 

 

Edited December 9 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Chandler#81]

 

[boyst]

Rams win the West. Put it together in playoffs 

[iwishitwerecolder]

Man I wish sometimes I wasn’t a bills fan..

[RichStadiumGuy]

4 hours ago, boyst said:

Well, what's to have joy about when we constantly beat losing teams and beat the one team we are designed to beat?

I dunno Dude... the Bills are 10-3 now. Apparently in your world their schedule so far consisted of 10 losers?