12/8/24 Game 14 GAMEDAY! Bills vs Rams post game Thread

[CincyBillsFan]

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

He didn’t do anything that should tarnish his MVP resume. 

He enhanced his chances with that performance.  And he would trade it all away for just one more defensive stop.

 

 

[dma0034]

I think the Bills need a new coach and they desperately need an elite DE/DT. The key difference imo between the Bills and Chiefs the last 3 years is Chris Jones

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, LifeLongBillsFan said:

 

lol - there is a really good chance next week is another shootout - they may

abuse our corners and subpar safeties all night 

Stafford made a ton of tight window throws all day long…I’d be thrilled if Goff attempted some of those passes 

[folz]

We just win a big game in the snow to clinch the division and playoffs and the game after the Rams is the big Detroit matchup. I don't want to say trap game, but...

 

They left the cold to fly across the country to warm and sunny L.A. to play a very talented team that is finally healthy (with a SB-winning QB, GREAT receivers, excellent RBs, etc.), who are fighting for their playoff lives (and knowing that a big dog is coming to town that they can prove themselves against). The Rams are a much better team than their record shows (due to the injuries). This was a playoff game for the Rams. They took it too the Bills (in their home) and we still almost came back, losing by only 2 in a 44-42 shootout.

 

It was an NFC loss. We already have 10 wins and are in the playoffs. The guys fought hard even though it was an off day (well for the defense at least). A million things could have gone differently prior, to not even come down to coaching decisions. There are no guarantees that if the coaching decisions were different, we would have won. We couldn't stop the Rams offense today...nothing else much mattered.

 

Exciting game. Josh remains and Alien Beast that is doing things no other Qb has. Khalil is da Man. 

 

Heal up, review the tape, make adjustments, and on to Detroit. Go Bills!

 

 

 

P.S. Looks like I may need to steer clear of the board this week, the way McD is getting it from posters. I may be in the minority at this moment, but we're very lucky to have him. Some of you guys are becoming like Pats and Chiefs fans---taking things for granted and also expecting perfection.

[Bockeye]

9 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I just can't believe you are saying this after what we just watched.  The expectation of perfection from Allen is flat out crazy.  It's insane and is not seen at any level of football by any other QB.  As good as Stafford played today, and he was magnificent, he also missed some passes and left some plays out there. 

👆this 100%
 

People want to see baby Jesus in a bills uniform at QB. 
 

Josh put up 6 SIX TDs!!!!!!!!

[CincyBillsFan]

Just now, Bockeye said:

👆this 100%
 

People want to see baby Jesus in a bills uniform at QB. 
 

Josh put up 6 SIX TDs!!!!!!!!

And if they got Baby Jesus at QB they would B word that he didn't walk on the water fast enough.

 

 

[WideNine]

4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

They have a super bowl team and QB. McDermott has 4 weeks to come up with a real game plan on defense for the playoffs.

 

You're 100, million percent correct. It absolutely cannot stay the same. Full stop. I'm not saying change everything, but he needs to do something different.

 

No more excuses. 

 

Hold teams to 24 points in the playoffs is all I'm asking because it will be enough. McDermott has to step up in the playoffs. 

 

 

 

I have been preaching this for a while that conceeding rush yards may be acceptable if you can tighten and hold teams to FGs in the red zone.

 

Better teams just run through our vanilla zone and light boxes and can score in the red zone too.

 

I am sure the analytics get skewed by teams that are not that good.

 

This defense is not built to play from behind, chase teams that get up on us early, can keep moving the chains, keep running the ball, and control TOP, and score to keep the game out of reach.

 

Just letting teams run the ball down our throats early in games is not going to cut it.

 

The defensive scheme needs to get more early stops and know teams are going to run on them, the book is out on this D.

 

The offense needs to execute better in the first half of games rather than waking up late when we are in a hole.

 

 

 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Stafford made a ton of tight window throws all day long…I’d be thrilled if Goff attempted some of those passes 

He sure did, but mostly from clean pockets

[Richard Noggin]

3 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

So you’re saying the standard for Josh needs to be better than 6 td’s, 80 yards rushing, and 340 yards passing?

 

The standard needed to be better today with the Rams offense absolutely executing at an elite level. Not saying the Bills offense wasn't super productive overall. I AM saying that the margin for error was miniscule, and they faltered JUST enough to fall short. (It ain't fair, no doubt.)

 

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Allen was as close to perfect for a QB as you can be.  Didn't he have a record setting EPA & Fantasy score?  Allen had a 117 QB rating and an amazing 90 QBR. 

 

Stats do NOT capture the complexities and nuances of a complete NFL game. Allen was monstrously productive today. Such an elite stat line. But he also missed some glaring plays that could have changed the outcome. Simple and cruel evaluation.  

 

[Triple Reverse]

1 hour ago, The Helmet of said:

Don’t want to be an alarmist. But after watching football for 40 years this is what I think.  

 

This defense is really BAD. There are so many ways to beat them! With speed. With size. With scheme. Can’t stop the run. Don’t even want to stop the run. You can’t get a finger on Stafford? He’s not a mobile guy.

 

Stafford didn’t have a single bad play. Whenever you have a team go 90% on third down conversion it’s a sign that something is seriously wrong. 

 

I don’t mind the loss. I am concerned that this defense is simply not good.  They won’t be able to stop Detroit, Philly, Baltimore… and LA apparently. For sure, they can beat anyone because Allen is a GOD. But he has to overcome a mediocre and oftentimes just plain bad defense.

 

Where does McD’s D excel?  The philosophy seems to be “ You can have the whole field. Do whatever you want. We’ll try to get a stop in the red zone.”

 

That’s not a formula to win a championship.

 

I give McD credit for creating a great team culture. But his D are not built to win championships and never have been.

 

Now I am more convinced that if CMC doesn't go down last game Bills may have been taking another loss because he was blowing right through that porous defense.   This is what concerns me  about next week. At any rate Cheifs can only manage 6 points against the useless Chargers and are winning with 2 minutes left in the half. Chargers can't catch a cold.  This is the good fortune the Chiefs always get.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

39 minutes ago, Dan said:

For me, the most egregious call was accepting the penalty at the end of the game. I would’ve forced fourth and long sooner and either had them try it or kicked the long field goal and go up by six.  Either way we have more time on the clock.  Plus with the way those receivers were playing confidence we would stop them. 

This is an insane argument to me…rams were going for it on 4th and 7 very very likely. You think a 3rd and 17 is likely picked up cuz of receiver confidence yada yada but they wouldn’t hit on a 4th and 7? Lol  It was a whopping 2 yards further than what they ultimately attempted.   You back them up and potentially make that decision really tough/impossible on 3rd and long every time.

the rams easily could’ve been running out clock on themselves with that decision.

 

kind of the epitome of the mcd criticism on this board to me…yea he does some dumb stuff like the sneak late but a lot of this stuff y’all question in hindsight you can easily make the case for what he did 

Edited December 9 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[5ths the charm]

If we don't spend the first 4 picks in next year's draft on run stuffing tackling dt and de, cover dB and stout tackling machine lb. Then we will be expecting josh to score tons of points each week. This game exposed several weaknesses.

[julian]

1 hour ago, dhgold said:

Things that pissed me off besides the coaching SNAFUs:

 

Bills blitz packages which rarely if ever generate pressure.

 

Nick Wright called both Rams upset and Stafford going toe to toe with Allen. 

Stafford had a very good game.. in no way was that a toe to toe performance 

[Casey D]

1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

The standard needed to be better today with the Rams offense absolutely executing at an elite level. Not saying the Bills offense wasn't super productive overall. I AM saying that the margin for error was miniscule, and they faltered JUST enough to fall short. (It ain't fair, no doubt.)

 

 

Stats do NOT capture the complexities and nuances of a complete NFL game. Allen was monstrously productive today. Such an elite stat line. But he also missed some glaring plays that could have changed the outcome. Simple and cruel evaluation.  

 

Bills offense outscored Rams offense 42-37.  Just sayin'. 

[RiotAct]

Just now, 5ths the charm said:

If we don't spend the first 4 picks in next year's draft on run stuffing tackling dt and de, cover dB and stout tackling machine lb. Then we will be expecting josh to score tons of points each week. This game exposed several weaknesses.

:: spits drink out onto monitor ::

[ticketssince61]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

He definitely wants that missed throw to Shakir back…that might’ve been a carbon copy of the later Shakir td if the ball is on target 

 

I’d put money on that’s exactly what he’s talking about with that statement 

 

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

And if they lose again next week then beat the Jets and Pats x2, finish 13-4 and get at least one home game what difference does it make?

 

Everyone likes to win, some of you feel like the 1 seed really matters. Other than that? Makes no appreciable difference.

 

A #1 seed means

..only having to win 2 home games to get to super bowl 

.. a bye week for players to rest and recuperate.

..  getting to always play the worst team remaining in the playoffs

 

It is a VERY Appreciable difference 

[Governor]

7 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

I think the Bills need a new coach and they desperately need an elite DE/DT. The key difference imo between the Bills and Chiefs the last 3 years is Chris Jones

And their scheme.

[Chugga]

I’m still in disbelief.  If I told you this scenario…

 

A defensive specialist at head coach is going to have his teams QB score 6 TDs and all of his players on defense are healthy and back from injury.

 

What is the first thing you say?  Did they win by 30 or 40?

[Richard Noggin]

Just now, 5ths the charm said:

If we don't spend the first 4 picks in next year's draft on run stuffing tackling dt and de, cover dB and stout tackling machine lb. Then we will be expecting josh to score tons of points each week. This game exposed several weaknesses.

 

Can't spend premium picks on more than 1 or 2 of those defensive positions. Gotta replenish and restock on the offensive side as well. Give Allen more trustworthy protectors and targets, always. The offensive line must remain a strength (injuries haven't pressed the issue this season, but we're built to absorb o-line injuries and should remain that way if possible). And we need more receiving talent in the pipeline after Cooper leaves and Samuel gets closer to his FA year and Shakir reaches contract time.  

[DapperCam]

5 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

Stats do NOT capture the complexities and nuances of a complete NFL game. Allen was monstrously productive today. Such an elite stat line. But he also missed some glaring plays that could have changed the outcome. Simple and cruel evaluation.  

 

If he only had scored 7 TDs with no turnovers we might have won (unless the Rams had the ball last).