12/8/24 Game 14 GAMEDAY! Bills vs Rams post game Thread

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

Ya fair.

I can live with the bills defence giving up points and plays. 

I Just hate how they play schematically. 
 

38-22 time of possession for the rams today- That's what happens a lot when you play bend but don't break, keeps the mvp on the sidelines as well

TOP lopsided today without question. Not sure how it is overall on the year. I wouldn’t say this happens a lot but it happens from time to time. 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

Ya fair.

I can live with the bills defence giving up points and plays. 

I Just hate how they play schematically. 
 

38-22 time of possession for the rams today- That's what happens a lot when you play bend but don't break, keeps the mvp on the sidelines as well

And the Bills scored TD's on 6 out of 9 possessions with only one three and out.  The defense was beyond bad today.

 

 

[st pete gogolak]

I know it won’t happen, but my God, can we use the last four games to at least experiment a little with the D?  Use Elam in some man coverage. Play a 4 -3 with Williams on the field and TJ as free safety, play a 3 - 4 with Carter on the nose and TJ as fourth backer. Blitz like a maniac one game.  Play Bishop. Maybe there is not enough talent on the D to win a championship. That’s a real possibility.  But you are not - you are never - winning a championship playing soft zone with a porous run D and a substandard pass rush.

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Richard Noggin said:

 

I find the losses to be LESS impactful in the midst of such a dominating run. Actually now, I expect the Bills to lose next week as well. Two-week skids are a thing. As long as they close out strong against the dregs of the AFCE, then whatever. It only matters how they perform in the playoffs now. 

 

 

This is the main contention most Bills fans have with McD once we're in the playoffs. His bend-don't-break defense only works if your offense is playing LIGHTS-OUT and/or if you get some timely stops or turnovers. The D-line needs to be more effectively disruptive, and our guys just have NOT been disruptive enough outside the Chiefs game. (And the Chiefs O-line is bad.)

 

McVay's offense absolutely torched our D all day. And the Bills offense stumbled enough in the first half (which has been a problem) to cost them in the end. 

 

Yep. Good QBs/OCs shred this defence cause it's so predictable and easy.

 

If they want to rush 4 I can even live with that, but just 0 simulated pressures which doesn't help the D line out at all.

 

 

 

 

[Casey D]

5 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Well, then our coaches choked again. Is anybody surprised? Should have been 3 straight passes to burn minimal clock. Or at least Allen rolling out with a run/pass choice.

Why oh why are you so sure the Bills would have gotten a 3 and out if they scored with a minute left and three timeouts.  Given the Rams aggressiveness and the Bills utter inability to stop their offense all day, the likelihood that saving that time out would have made a difference is highly unlikely at best.  Get real.

[Brandon]

3 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

If you think the Bills have poured a lot of resources into the D-line before... Just wait for this off season... 

 

This year,  I think they're probably justified.  Sure,  the entire D was ass today,  but on the balance of this season,  I think their biggest need is a DT that can hold the point of attack in run defense,  with a pass rush upgrade a very close second.  

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

I find the losses to be LESS impactful in the midst of such a dominating run. Actually now, I expect the Bills to lose next week as well. Two-week skids are a thing. As long as they close out strong against the dregs of the AFCE, then whatever. It only matters how they perform in the playoffs now. 

 

 

This is the main contention most Bills fans have with McD once we're in the playoffs. His bend-don't-break defense only works if your offense is playing LIGHTS-OUT and/or if you get some timely stops or turnovers. The D-line needs to be more effectively disruptive, and our guys just have NOT been disruptive enough outside the Chiefs game. (And the Chiefs O-line is bad.)

 

McVay's offense absolutely torched our D all day. And the Bills offense stumbled enough in the first half (which has been a problem) to cost them in the end. 

 

While some of these are fair points , we shouldn’t forget it took a whole lot of superior plays by Rams WRs and a punt block for a TD to get the Bills into the loss column today. 

[BillsFan130]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

And the Bills scored TD's on 6 out of 9 possessions with only one three and out.  The defense was beyond bad today.

 

 

Haha yep, think how sad that is. The defence is supposed to be "bend but don't break". Yet we got 6 tds and still lose lol

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

McVay's offense absolutely torched our D all day. And the Bills offense stumbled enough in the first half (which has been a problem) to cost them in the end. 

 

Sorry but I can't utter a single bad word about the Bills Offense today.  They scored TD's on 2 of their 4 first half possessions which is solid.  In the 2nd half they scored TD's on 4 out of 5 possessions.  The Bills D was terrible and the special teams not much better and that's were the discussion ends IMO.

 

 

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, st pete gogolak said:

I know it won’t happen, but my God, can we use the last four games to at least experiment a little with the D?  Use Elam in some man coverage. Play a 4 -3 with Williams on the field and TJ as free safety, play a 3 - 4 with Carter on the nose and TJ as fourth backer. Blitz like a maniac one game.  Play Bishop. Maybe there is not enough talent on the D to win a championship. That’s a real possibility.  But you are not - you are never - winning a championship playing soft zone with a porous run D and a substandard pass rush.

Reasonable ideas in my view..

 

I think you know it’s probably not gunna happen …. Maybe in Week 18 when they are hopefully resting starters 

[skibum]

Bad clock management at the end, but the real story was that the D laid an egg tonight. Plain and simple. They sucked. 

[Bimmer323i]

Suck wad defense cost us the game today… Doesn’t give me a whole lot of confidence going to Detroit next week

[billsfan714]

10 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Watching the Chiefs game- this is how you play defence. Stop the run, play man coverage, send pressure on the QB.

Not sit on your arse and play soft zone coverage and hope a team makes a mistake while chewing up 7 minute drives 

And come playoff time, the good teams dont make the mistakes like the bad teams do.

[zow2]

8 minutes ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

And there’s the 2024 “Billsy” loss, only games to have the most ridiculous stats usually belongs to us. 

 

There just had to be a Billsy angle to this loss. But overall i thought the Rams earned it. Not really flukey other than the blocked punt. We flat out could not stop them. 

[AkwiredTste]

I hope 17 can drag Mcd and his defence kicking and screaming to a SB win. Just another expectation heaped onto his shoulders

[Kelly to Allen]

4 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:

I know it won’t happen, but my God, can we use the last four games to at least experiment a little with the D?  Use Elam in some man coverage. Play a 4 -3 with Williams on the field and TJ as free safety, play a 3 - 4 with Carter on the nose and TJ as fourth backer. Blitz like a maniac one game.  Play Bishop. Maybe there is not enough talent on the D to win a championship. That’s a real possibility.  But you are not - you are never - winning a championship playing soft zone with a porous run D and a substandard pass rush.

They have a super bowl team and QB. McDermott has 4 weeks to come up with a real game plan on defense for the playoffs.

 

You're 100, million percent correct. It absolutely cannot stay the same. Full stop. I'm not saying change everything, but he needs to do something different.

 

No more excuses. 

 

Hold teams to 24 points in the playoffs is all I'm asking because it will be enough. McDermott has to step up in the playoffs. 

 

 

Edited December 9 by Kelly to Allen

[Richard Noggin]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Sorry but I can't utter a single bad word about the Bills Offense today.  They scored TD's on 2 of their 4 first half possessions which is solid.  In the 2nd half they scored TD's on 4 out of 5 possessions.  The Bills D was terrible and the special teams not much better and that's were the discussion ends IMO.

 

 

 

Agreed on a macro level, but on a micro level, Josh Allen was jumpy and rushing his mechanics at times during the first half. He missed some HUGE plays throughout. Gotta have those. 

 

Doesn't help that our running game was total dog crap. 

[Casey D]

2 minutes ago, skibum said:

Bad clock management at the end, but the real story was that the D laid an egg tonight. Plain and simple. They sucked. 

And the Rams were really good.  Sometimes you have to just tip the hat.

[DapperCam]

3 minutes ago, Casey D said:

Why oh why are you so sure the Bills would have gotten a 3 and out if they scored with a minute left and three timeouts.  Given the Rams aggressiveness and the Bills utter inability to stop their offense all day, the likelihood that saving that time out would have made a difference is highly unlikely at best.  Get real.

I’m not sure at all. In fact they probably would have given up the first down and that would be game over.

 

Doesn’t change the fact that the coaches choked in a critical moment.

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

And come playoff time, the good teams dont make the mistakes like the bad teams do.

The Bills have beaten several good teams this year , no?