12/8/24 Game 14 GAMEDAY! Bills vs Rams post game Thread

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

This is gold. There is nothing that he is wrong about here in my opinion. For whatever that's worth. 

Him being able to comment at all is wrong tbh 😂. He’s called Josh overrated so many different times 

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

All of whom said the bills had no chance at being competitive this year I’m sure haha 

I think it’s a tad over reactionary but we’ll see.  Idk who in the AFC is really capable of a game like that.  I don’t think even Baltimore could do it.  KC is so weak at tackle that it gives our dline a shot.  Pit maybe?  They don’t look particularly astute at pounding the run either though 

 

Hypothetical if we make the Super Bowl and lose, what do people do with mcd? 

Depends who the hypothetical people are. Fans ? They’ll do nothing. T Pegs, Beane ? We’ll see. If a Super Bowl was lost due to poor game management or bad defensive strategy it could mean a change at HC. Far from guaranteed, but it could. 

[reddogblitz]

19 hours ago, stevestojan said:

I’m at the point where I’ll settle for awful locker room culture and a SB. Nice that Shawn has a group of BFFs, but he is solely as successful as he is record wise because his arrival aligns with one of the best athletes of all time. 
 

edit: don’t even care that I spelled his name wrong. Leaving it. 
 

 

 

Has this ever happened?  Everyone is happy when you're winning that much.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

7 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Depends who the hypothetical people are. Fans ? They’ll do nothing. T Pegs, Beane ? We’ll see. If a Super Bowl was lost due to poor game management or bad defensive strategy it could mean a change at HC. Far from guaranteed, but it could. 

No im talking about cowherd/the nfl analysts..why should I take anything any of those people say seriously when they told me the bills would lose the division to the jets lol. 

they’re just as prone to knee jerk, over the top reactions to a single game as anyone here if not more so.  If we beat the lions the rams game will be a blip to them and we will be talked up as the best team and then if we lose in the playoffs they’ll say ‘I told you the bills weren’t that good remember?’ 🤣
 

 

Edited December 9 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[transient]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

No im talking about cowherd/the nfl analysts..why should I take anything any of those people say seriously when they told me the bills would lose the division to the jets lol. 

they’re just as prone to knee jerk, over the top reactions to a single game than anyone here if not more so.  If we beat the lions the rams game will be a blip to them and we will be the best team and then if we lose in the playoffs they’ll say ‘I told you the bills weren’t that good remember?’ 🤣
 

 

It depends on what the defense looks like. If we beat the Lions and the score is 56-49 it won't give me the warm and fuzzies, just like if we'd won yesterday after a defensive showing like that it wouldn't have given me the warm and fuzzies. We're 2-3 in 2024 against teams with a winning record to this point in the season. Until this team shows it can play solid defense against an actual playoff caliber team with a balanced offense the post season will end the same as it has every single season under McDermott.

[Governor]

55 minutes ago, nbbillsfan said:

This game looked so much like many of our playoff games, where the defense has absolutely no answers and loses the game despite Josh Allen being the best player on the field.

 

I fear that the McDermott defense is strong against mediocre/flawed QB’s and offenses, but gets absolutely abused by good QB’s with good scheme/playcalling. 

Truth is, McD makes bad QBs look great too. His defense has always just sucked.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, transient said:

It depends on what the defense looks like. If we beat the Lions and the score is 56-49 it won't give me the warm and fuzzies, just like if we'd won yesterday after a defensive showing like that it wouldn't have given me the warm and fuzzies. We're 2-3 in 2024 against teams with a winning record to this point in the season. Until this team shows it can play solid defense against an actual playoff caliber team with a balanced offense the post season will end the same as it has every single season under McDermott.

Oh yea you can have the warm and fuzzies or not haha I’m 100% ok with fans of the team speculating either way.  The talking heads are just such clowns though they think because they’re getting paid they’re way smarter than any of us and will call Josh overrated throughout his entire career then turn it around and say they’ve defended him all along.  It irks me 😂

 

any time something from one of them gets presented as fact it makes me cringe 

[transient]

35 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Oh yea you can have the warm and fuzzies or not haha I’m 100% ok with fans of the team speculating either way.  The talking heads are just such clowns though they think because they’re getting paid they’re way smarter than any of us and will call Josh overrated throughout his entire career then turn it around and say they’ve defended him all along.  It irks me 😂

 

any time something from one of them gets presented as fact it makes me cringe 

Gotcha. I missed that your post was directed at the media. Me smart boy, read good. 😂

 

[CincyBillsFan]

2 hours ago, paulmm3 said:

For many years I've wondered how the Pegulas seem to have done well with the Bills and have completely run the Sabres into the ground. Maybe it's as simple as the difference being Josh Allen. Although the Sabres have gotten rid of two of the NHL's top 5 scorers in the last half decade. 

I've come to the conclusion that it is almost entirely due to Allen.  The QB is so critical to NFL success and he is the best playing.  He elevates those around him as even a casual glance at the numbers put up by Brown, Beasley, Foster, Sanders, Diggs, Davis, Hollins, Shakir, and others reveal.

 

I don't know whether McD is wasting Allen's best years or is creating a foundation that will see multiple Super Bowl wins in the next 5 - 7 years.  I go back and forth on this topic.  IMO this is a big year one way or the other as the Bills appear to be set to greatly exceed preseason expectations (13 - 4; division title).  But if the playoff exit happens in the Divional round following a similar pattern as past years then next season should be the make or break one for McD.  Either an AFC Championship appearance or McD is gone and a new coach put in his place.

 

 

Edited December 9 by CincyBillsFan

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I've come to the conclusion that it is almost entirely due to Allen.  The QB is so critical to NFL success and he is the best playing.  He elevates those around him as even a casual glance at the numbers put up by Brown, Beasley, Foster, Sanders, Diggs, Davis, Hollins, Shakir, and others reveal.

 

I don't know whether McD is wasting Allen's best years or is creating a foundation that will see multiple Super Bowl wins in the next 5 - 7 years.  I go back and forth on this topic.  IMO this is a big year one way or the other as the Bills appear to be set to greatly exceed preseason expectations (13 - 4; division title).  But if the playoff exit happens in the Divional round following a similar pattern as past years then next season should be the make or break one for McD.  Either an AFC Championship appearance or McD is gone and a new coach put in his place.

 

 

He is absolutely wasting his good years. 

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, transient said:

It depends on what the defense looks like. If we beat the Lions and the score is 56-49 it won't give me the warm and fuzzies, just like if we'd won yesterday after a defensive showing like that it wouldn't have given me the warm and fuzzies. We're 2-3 in 2024 against teams with a winning record to this point in the season. Until this team shows it can play solid defense against an actual playoff caliber team with a balanced offense the post season will end the same as it has every single season under McDermott.

Great post. 
 

It was shocking to see how bad our healthy defense was yesterday.  We almost got to a point where I had pushed the idea of this happening out of my head as long as we stayed healthy. 
 

Even if we snuck out with a win, I’d be happy and glad we’re still in striking distance for the 1 seed, but I can’t unsee what I saw. 
 

In some ways, getting the Lions immediately is a blessing as it gives us a chance to put this game behind us, prove we can slow down a great offense and keep the pressure on KC to win at least 2 of 3 against playoff teams. 
 

If we can’t slow them down, well at least we know what we’re dealing with in the playoffs and the offensive gameplanning should be done accordingly.   I don’t think there is an offense remotely close to Rams/Lions in the AFC (aside from the Bengals), but every QB we face is going to be someone who has shown he can go off any given game this season. 

[zow2]

14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

He is absolutely wasting his good years. 

 

I agree.  Josh has been in full stride for several seasons now.

 

every year that goes by he will start losing a tick of speed and prob be a little less durable.  It’s just fact when you approach 30. However, like Stafford shows and Brady of course, the early 30’s is where the wisdom comes in. the game is just second nature, the completion% goes up, they can read a defense in one second and hopefully a little more careful in terms of not taking hits.

[njbuff]

I have a multi-faceted question(s).

 

Can the Bills just burn the tape of yesterday’s defensive performance and perform better going forward? Or was yesterday the blueprint to eliminate the Bills from the playoffs… AGAIN?

[BillsFan130]

2 minutes ago, njbuff said:

I have a multi-faceted question(s).

 

Can the Bills just burn the tape of yesterday’s defensive performance and perform better going forward? Or was yesterday the blueprint to eliminate the Bills from the playoffs… AGAIN?

Nothing from years past and this year for the most part has told me the Bills will make changes to their defensive philosophy. 

 

If they keep running this bend but dont break defence, they will get shredded against good QBS once again come playoff time.

 

Their best game plan of the year was against KC a few weeks ago IMO, when they played a lot more man/cover 1. Which is why it is just maddening the game plan against the rams in the 1st half was soft zone, rush 4, especially against a QB in Stafford who shreds zone coverage.  I just don't know what they are thinking sometimes

 

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

32 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I've come to the conclusion that it is almost entirely due to Allen.  The QB is so critical to NFL success and he is the best playing.  He elevates those around him as even a casual glance at the numbers put up by Brown, Beasley, Foster, Sanders, Diggs, Davis, Hollins, Shakir, and others reveal.

 

I don't know whether McD is wasting Allen's best years or is creating a foundation that will see multiple Super Bowl wins in the next 5 - 7 years.  I go back and forth on this topic.  IMO this is a big year one way or the other as the Bills appear to be set to greatly exceed preseason expectations (13 - 4; division title).  But if the playoff exit happens in the Divional round following a similar pattern as past years then next season should be the make or break one for McD.  Either an AFC Championship appearance or McD is gone and a new coach put in his place.

 

 

My general thought on this was the Bills missed their first window after the Diggs trade.

 

Beane did not get a second impact WR and it capped them for the next three seasons.

 

I think Von Miller was the next capping move. He was too old and too expensive. Listen to his last video on buffalobills.com, he’s a mercenary. He’s had a few moments (Mahomes pressure 2+ years ago), but it’s been too little (missed tackle on a running back in the hole, announcing that he shouldn’t have been on the field all last year). He cost a lot of money so the Bills have tried to justify that contract.

 

I think small things play factors 

- misses in the 2nd Round - Cody Ford, Boogie Basham.

 

Not interviewing for coordinators from outside the organization. This leads to drafting the same style of players over and over naturally. 
 

It’s not all bad of course, good stability, a FO that was built from the ashes of Marv Levy, Russ Brandon, Buddy Nix and Doug Whaley, overall good free agent signings on the cheap after the cap got tight.
 

 

[stevestojan]

1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Has this ever happened?  Everyone is happy when you're winning that much.

No. I am just upset and making a point that everyone praises McClappy for building a strong camaraderie.  I was being snarky in saying I’d rather have a SB with a team that hates each other. I’ll get over this pissedoffness by Wednesday. 

[Goin Breakdown]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Him being able to comment at all is wrong tbh 😂. He’s called Josh overrated so many different times 

What he's said in the past doesn't bother me much. He's saying Josh is the best now. Seems he came around to me. And I think he's right. Josh is generational and the front office doesn't seem to build properly around him. Not sure why I should disagree with someone for defending Josh and his talents. There's a ton of Bills fans that have said Josh sucks or that felt we shouldn't have drafted him. A lot of people have finally around. Go Bills. 

[BillsFan130]

Was there any update on Rasul Douglas's knee injury?

[Aussie Joe]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

Was there any update on Rasul Douglas's knee injury?

yes … here it is …very informative as usual 

 

 

[Goin Breakdown]

2 hours ago, Governor said:

Truth is, McD makes bad QBs look great too. His defense has always just sucked.

Skyler Thompson agrees even if posters in here don't.