I Just Bought a New Truck

[Sweats]

4 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I had a salesman come up to me when I pulled in a lot and before both of my feet hit the pavement he asked “so, is that the one you’re trading in?” Both feet back in the car and I drove away. Maybe some people like or at least tolerate that, but I don’t appreciate the pushy approach. 

 

 

 

I've been at dealerships with my wife and had occasions where salespeople didn't even approach us and just let us wander around the lots........it was refreshing and frustrating all at the same time.

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

I've been at dealerships with my wife and had occasions where salespeople didn't even approach us and just let us wander around the lots........it was refreshing and frustrating all at the same time.

 

A simple “let me know if you have any questions” is appropriate. You were not ignored, but it wasn’t pushy. My wife was upset when every guy or couple at one dealership were greeted promptly, and they ignored the single woman repeatedly when she wanted their attention. Always greet. 

[Sweats]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

A simple “let me know if you have any questions” is appropriate. You were not ignored, but it wasn’t pushy. My wife was upset when every guy or couple at one dealership were greeted promptly, and they ignored the single woman repeatedly when she wanted their attention. Always greet. 

 

 

 

"Sweats notes"........a friend of mine years ago was a salesman and he told me right out what salespeople look for as soon as people step onto the lot.

 

* Old people - older people usually have everything paid off and have some extra spending money kicking around, so when they come onto the lot, they can upsell to the older couples

 

* Young couples - young couples don't tend to be very smart with their money or they tend to overspend what they can afford. They can also be manipulated into deals that they either don't really want or don't truly understand

 

Dealership salespeople tend to stay away from lone people coming onto the lots or people of middle age, as a loner on the lot doesn't represent a "serious" buyer and middle-aged people tend to be a little tighter with their money because of kids, mortgages, bills, etc.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

"Sweats notes"........a friend of mine years ago was a salesman and he told me right out what salespeople look for as soon as people step onto the lot.

 

* Old people - older people usually have everything paid off and have some extra spending money kicking around, so when they come onto the lot, they can upsell to the older couples

 

* Young couples - young couples don't tend to be very smart with their money or they tend to overspend what they can afford. They can also be manipulated into deals that they either don't really want or don't truly understand

 

Dealership salespeople tend to stay away from lone people coming onto the lots or people of middle age, as a loner on the lot doesn't represent a "serious" buyer and middle-aged people tend to be a little tighter with their money because of kids, mortgages, bills, etc.

 

Where do you get this stuff???  You have a curious view of life. Nobody with a brain who was serious about sales would over-generalize and lump people together like that and throw out so many opportunities. That’s worthy of a Darwin Award. 

 

Every single lone male was greeted instantly. Men with wives were greeted. She was ignored, and it certainly was not the first time. Single women are often invisible, especially if you are dressed casually. Yoga pants and a sweatshirt doesn’t mean you can’t buy a car.  That’s the real world. If you are not aware of that, you may be part of the problem. That sales crew was having a bad day. This was a Lexus dealership and she let sales management know in a polite way as a courtesy. She is in sales management and would want to know. 

 

Oh, and she was prepared to take a new car home that day if she liked the test drive of the new model. She got pissed off trying to get noticed, and went and drove one at another dealer.  She was “converted” and bought different brand. 

 

[Sweats]

21 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Where do you get this stuff???  You have a curious view of life. Nobody with a brain who was serious about sales would over-generalize and lump people together like that and throw out so many opportunities. That’s worthy of a Darwin Award. 

 

Every single lone male was greeted instantly. Men with wives were greeted. She was ignored, and it certainly was not the first time. Single women are often invisible, especially if you are dressed casually. Yoga pants and a sweatshirt doesn’t mean you can’t buy a car.  That’s the real world. If you are not aware of that, you may be part of the problem. That sales crew was having a bad day. This was a Lexus dealership and she let sales management know in a polite way as a courtesy. She is in sales management and would want to know. 

 

Oh, and she was prepared to take a new car home that day if she liked the test drive of the new model. She got pissed off trying to get noticed, and went and drove one at another dealer.  She was “converted” and bought different brand. 

 

 

 

 

Hey, don't hate the player, hate the game.

Ole Sweats is just passing along some "insider" salesman info of what they generalize as people with money, people without, people that tend to buy, people that don't and the different classes of people as they see them when they step onto the lot, etc........it doesn't mean that their assumptions are correct, it's just as how they see them when they are wandering the lots. 

It gives the salespeople a general idea of who might actually spend some money that day and who might be wasting their time. 

Let's say 5 people wander onto the lot at the same time, the salesman already knows who he is going to first based on their generalizations.

 

I'm not saying this happens all the time, but in an industry-based standard such as car salesmen where they might see a percentage of the sales, they know who they want to deal with and who they can make money off of.

[Irv]

Wow.  This is an awesome thread.  Never realized the passion about this topic.  Still feeling screwed.  I just wonder how bad.    

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

Hey, don't hate the player, hate the game.

Ole Sweats is just passing along some "insider" salesman info of what they generalize as people with money, people without, people that tend to buy, people that don't and the different classes of people as they see them when they step onto the lot, etc........it doesn't mean that their assumptions are correct, it's just as how they see them when they are wandering the lots. 

It gives the salespeople a general idea of who might actually spend some money that day and who might be wasting their time. 

Let's say 5 people wander onto the lot at the same time, the salesman already knows who he is going to first based on their generalizations.

 

I'm not saying this happens all the time, but in an industry-based standard such as car salesmen where they might see a percentage of the sales, they know who they want to deal with and who they can make money off of.

 

As I just described, those are only the lousy salespeople. Good ones know better. My wife was ready to buy, THAT DAY, with a test drive if she liked it. Take it home with her. 

 

I don’t blame “the game”, they were idiots, and possibly far worse. That’s not your insider info, that’s nonsense. You act like a car lot has a constant rush of fresh prey. There are a lot of people standing around doing nothing. EVERYBODY should get attention. If you disagree, that is telling. And no, it’s not a matter of prioritizing your next victim. You never, never know. I didn’t hear that from a guy who used to sell cars. 

 

Some of the wealthiest people we have ever met are very unassuming, and they come in all sizes, shapes, genders and colors. I hope the sales people don’t learn that right as a business decision, but that would at least be a start. 

 

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Edited yesterday at 10:28 PM by Augie

[Wacka]

I totaled my car in August. Was a 2009 Focus that I was going to drive into the ground as it was starting to rust out.  Got a rental thru my insurance  from Enterprise. They mentioned they sell their  older cars. Had $ from my share of mom's house. So checked out their sales  location up at Transit and N. French in Amherst. Got a 2021 Nissan Altima  at the top of the range I wanted to  pay (That was with tax, registration, etc.).  Told them I was paying cash and would be there the next morning with a cashier's check as soon as I could get it from the bank. 

[PromoTheRobot]

On 12/8/2024 at 12:00 AM, Irv said:

If the dealer makes a deal with you, you got screwed.  It's just  matter if how bad you got screwed.  Anybody disagree?   My butt is hurting a little.  

 

How much did you shop around? Did you know what you wanted or get talked into a vehicle? When they start drawing the 4 squares on a piece of paper, get up and walk out.

On 12/8/2024 at 6:56 AM, Sweats said:

You want to screw dealerships?!?........pay cash.

 

Dealerships make all of their kickback money on financing from financial institutions, so cash is useless to them and in fact, they end up losing money from all of the incentives for financing.

When i bought my ole mighty Dodge about 10 years ago, the dealership was drooling at all of the potential money they were going to make........when i flopped a certified cheque on their desk, they were not happy and tried to back out of the deal and sell the truck to someone else, but ole Sweats held them to the deal.

Bwahahahahahahahaha

 

Back in the day, cash was king......today, it's worthless when buying a vehicle, but it's only worthless to the dealerships, so if you want to screw them, pay cash and watch them cry.

 

What I did in 2019 was buy my Hyundai with their financing incentives, then paid the loan off in full two weeks later.

[Augie]

4 hours ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

Hey, don't hate the player, hate the game.

Ole Sweats is just passing along some "insider" salesman info of what they generalize as people with money, people without, people that tend to buy, people that don't and the different classes of people as they see them when they step onto the lot, etc........it doesn't mean that their assumptions are correct, it's just as how they see them when they are wandering the lots. 

It gives the salespeople a general idea of who might actually spend some money that day and who might be wasting their time. 

Let's say 5 people wander onto the lot at the same time, the salesman already knows who he is going to first based on their generalizations.

 

I'm not saying this happens all the time, but in an industry-based standard such as car salesmen where they might see a percentage of the sales, they know who they want to deal with and who they can make money off of.

I may be mistaken, but didn’t you mention someone took a dump on your desk? 

 

This may be a you thing. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

How much did you shop around? Did you know what you wanted or get talked into a vehicle? When they start drawing the 4 squares on a piece of paper, get up and walk out.

 

What I did in 2019 was buy my Hyundai with their financing incentives, then paid the loan off in full two weeks later.

I got the four square treatment at Billy Fucillos place on grand island … never went back, but during my media career I had the task of shooting a number of his “Huge” commercials. Dude was fun to work with and always slipped a few Franklins into my hand at the shoot conclusion, like he was my rich uncle 😂

[Just Jack]

9 hours ago, ICanSleepWhenI'mDead said:

 

I never used it, but Costco used to have a new car buying service that basically did exactly that.  Maybe they still do.  I figured that the service would get a good but not great price - - seems likely that dealers would quote a pretty good price to get the Costco sales volume but some of the applicable savings would wind up in Costco's pocket to pay Costco for providing the service.

 

They still have, and I'm a member so I can use it.  But it gets mixed reviews in some of the FB Costco groups I read.  Some people love it, others have had issues with dealers trying to get them to get a higher trim level to whatever car they settled on, or add-ons, etc.  

[Sweats]

10 hours ago, Augie said:

I may be mistaken, but didn’t you mention someone took a dump on your desk? 

 

This may be a you thing. 

 

 

 

 

Oh, it's definitely a "me" thing.

 

I've got problems.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

I sold cars for about 8 months during my “figure it out stage” (now work in nonprofits).

 

Anyways, it’s crazy how they set the game up. Salesmen don’t actually make a ton on new cars, maybe a few hundred. Used cars are where they can make some cheese, and it’s also where there is the most room to negotiate.