Should Bills Draft a Back-up QB? Who?

[Big Turk]

29 minutes ago, NORWOODS FOOT said:

I do. I like thinking about team building for the long term and what I would do if I were GM. 
 

Right now we aren’t winning anything without Allen. That’s my point. But multiple teams have won Super Bowls with solid backups (Giants and Eagles come to mind) and I’d like the Bills to be on that list should the worst happen.

 

The Bills do not have enough "stars" on the team to win without Allen so it's really pointless.

 

A smart GM would get the worst QB possible as a backup so if we lost Allen since we have no shot, we should get as high as a draft pick as possible that year, thereby maximizing the talent on the team moving forward next year with players otherwise that wouldn't be available for them normally.

 

Kinda like how Bengals got Jamar Chase.

Edited December 8 by Big Turk

[gonzo1105]

Boy tough crowd for a guy just starting a topic about getting a developmental Quarterback lol

[NORWOODS FOOT]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

The Bills do not have enough "stars" on the team to win without Allen so it's really pointless.

 

A smart GM would get the worst QB possible as a backup so if we lost Allen since we have no shot, we should get as high as a draft pick as possible that year, thereby maximizing the talent on the team moving forward next year with players otherwise that wouldn't be available for them normally.

 

Kinda like how Bengals got Jamar Chase.

A blue chip draft pick really would be the only thing to soften the blow. Well, if the worst is to happen, I hope it’s in preseason rather than week 17! 

5 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

Boy tough crowd for a guy just starting a topic about getting a developmental Quarterback lol

I’m okay with everyone’s feelings. LoL

[Doc Brown]

37 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Who cares?

 

They aren't winning anything without Allen.  On a long list of things to worry about this would be at the very bottom.

I feel like this comes up every year but if we lose Allen to a season ending injury.  We're done.  If he's out for four weeks we need a capable backup that can get us to at least 2-2.  I think Trubisky would for example be capable enough to get us to at least 3-2 here down the stretch if Josh wakes up tomorrow and needs his appendix removed or something.

[BigAl2526]

Mitchell Trubisky is far from the best backup QB in the league, but I don't think drafting a rookie is the solution.  The Bills are not going to draft one on day one or two of the draft and after that it is a total crap shoot.  It's even somewhat of a crap shoot on day one and day two.  If the Bills agree with us fans who don't think Trubisky is a good option for backup QB, their best option going forward is probably looking for someone different in free agency.  In the off season there will likely be a number of free agents who are available and Buffalo is now a desirable destination for free agents.  The only catch is that any free agent who signs with Buffalo probably understands that he's probably not going to have a chance to play in meaningful situations since Josh Allen has an iron man reputation.  It's not a bad idea to draft a developmental QB on day three but it's probably a low priority given that Josh Allen most likely will be a Bill for a number of years yet.

[Bockeye]

13 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

Haven't seen him play I'll try to take a look. Looking at his stats, is he just a flat out runner? Passing stats over his career are nothing special until this year. Legit asking as I've never seen him play or took notice. I try to watch the FCS playoffs as much as I can because those teams are the ones most likely to have a chance at the next level.

 

 

Is he the kid a couple of years ago that split time and ran all over SDSU in the playoffs? I remember a guy like that and I swore it was Montana State?

Yes, he ran over 1k in 2022.  He’s become a better passer, but not sure he’s next level passer.  Has looked great this year though, so you never know. He can pass in the cold though 😂

 

Agree with you - love watching these kids from FCS make it 👊

 

[Whkfc]

1 hour ago, NORWOODS FOOT said:

The Bills are really good team built to contend year in and year out.

 

(Congrats and thank you, McBeane.)

 

That said, I hate the fact that if something bad happens, which I refuse to name, we would basically be out of Super Bowl contention with Mr. T at the helm.
 

I’d love to see us draft someone in the mid to late rounds that had some special traits and/or tons of game experience that we could build a scheme for to try and at least give ourselves a chance. 
 

What do you think and who might fit the bill in this upcoming draft?

 

If he fell far enough (who knows at this stage?) I’d take a crack at Dylan Gabriel from Oregon. Watching the Big 10 championship and I could see him excelling in the right scheme surrounded by the right people.

 

What say you?
 

 

This Tez Johnson would look good at reciever. He is fast, great hands. Kid looks like a stud.

[gonzo1105]

19 minutes ago, Bockeye said:

Yes, he ran over 1k in 2022.  He’s become a better passer, but not sure he’s next level passer.  Has looked great this year though, so you never know. He can pass in the cold though 😂

 

Agree with you - love watching these kids from FCS make it 👊

 

 

I do remember him. I looked it up to make sure. Saw him in the 2021 semifinals. He was a backup at the time if I recall and had to play due to an injury to the starter and he ran all over SDSU when no one was giving them a chance to win that game. That's the only time I've seen him play. Think he could play a different position in the NFL? I remember him being a tough SOB in that game in the snow.

Edited December 8 by gonzo1105

[Sierra Foothills]

1) Yes, if Josh misses appreciable time, the season can go up in smoke.

2) But if Josh were to miss "only" 3-5 games then the Bills are in "damage control mode" trying to preserve standings/playoff seeding until he returns.

3) Acknowledging #3 above you're probably going to be better off with a veteran, former starter (i.e.- Trubisky) as your backup.

4) However many believe in having a young developmental QB as your number 3, particularly on teams that don't have a durable superstar QB.

5) IMO, if the Bills chose to carry a younger developmental QB then they should be looking at free agents and/or undrafted free agents.

6) #5 above is based on the opinion that for a team that is a true and perennial Super Bowl contender, every draft pick should be used on a position player to make the team around the superstar QB, better.

[f0neguy]

I can see drafting a kid day three that has the tools but is really raw.  PS him for two or three years to develop and learn the system.  At that point either make him number two or trade him for whatever.  Some folks will call that a wasted pick, I consider it to be insurance.  Day three picks are shots at a dartboard anyways.

[Chandler#81]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

Who cares?

 

They aren't winning anything without Allen.  On a long list of things to worry about this would be at the very bottom.

Thanks for playing. 🙄

[Bills1717]

The correct answer is draft a QB and make him look amazing (late rounds)…get that hype train going.  Then trade him for a high pick down the road (i.e. Jimmy G, Matt Shaub).  When you have an amazing QB who doesn’t get hurt (knock on wood), utilize a backup who has been hyped up by the organization.  Mitch has crap ROI and wouldn’t even be the back up if Josh did go down anyway.  Make your own value.

[Bills1717]

…and yes, those were 2nd and 3rd rd examples so maybe Hasslebeck is a better example.  You get the F’n point!

[Bockeye]

1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

I do remember him. I looked it up to make sure. Saw him in the 2021 semifinals. He was a backup at the time if I recall and had to play due to an injury to the starter and he ran all over SDSU when no one was giving them a chance to win that game. That's the only time I've seen him play. Think he could play a different position in the NFL? I remember him being a tough SOB in that game in the snow.

He’s a tweeter for sure.  He runs a 4.3, smart as hell, and a great kid, but he’s only about 6’ and 200#.  Could see him as a ST and then work on another position…prob WR.  

[djp14150]

2 hours ago, NORWOODS FOOT said:

The Bills are really good team built to contend year in and year out.

 

(Congrats and thank you, McBeane.)

 

That said, I hate the fact that if something bad happens, which I refuse to name, we would basically be out of Super Bowl contention with Mr. T at the helm.
 

I’d love to see us draft someone in the mid to late rounds that had some special traits and/or tons of game experience that we could build a scheme for to try and at least give ourselves a chance. 
 

What do you think and who might fit the bill in this upcoming draft?

 

If he fell far enough (who knows at this stage?) I’d take a crack at Dylan Gabriel from Oregon. Watching the Big 10 championship and I could see him excelling in the right scheme surrounded by the right people.

 

What say you?
 

 

Just sign a vet QB and have a PS QB.  It’s unlikely to find a QB thst matters in the 6th/7th

 

if you draft a QB they take a roster spot on the 53 if you have 3 QBs

[qwksilver]

10 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

Just sign a vet QB and have a PS QB.  It’s unlikely to find a QB thst matters in the 6th/7th

 

if you draft a QB they take a roster spot on the 53 if you have 3 QBs

And we all know this FO love that 53 spot for ST guys I cant ever remember a Beane/MCD keeping 3 QBS on the 53.

[DCofNC]

It seems most don’t understand just how good of a situation the Bills have at back up QB.  You have a former #2 overall pick, who started multiple seasons, for a couple teams and has had some success in the NFL.  To have him here, cheap, is the best you can hope for.   I’ll take him all day over Cooper Rush, which is what you are hoping for by throwing away a draft pick on a late round developmental guy.   The odds of hitting on a guy who’s going to add any value to your team at QB, is low even in the early rounds, much less late.    For every Purdy, there’s 1000 guys you can’t remember their name or never even knew it.  It’s cool to hit on them, but there’s a good handful of guys playing meaningful minutes on this team, drafted in the 5th/6th rounds, give me a CB,LB, OL etc with traits and an actual chance to play.

[Sierra Foothills]

A lot of the above comments are not differentiating between the backup quarterback and the number 3 quarterback.

 

They are two different positions.

 

[gonzo1105]

4 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

A lot of the above comments are not differentiating between the backup quarterback and the number 3 quarterback.

 

They are two different positions.

 

 

Yea, all I know is Shane Buechele aint that guy as the future # 2 behind Allen

[Kelly to Allen]

I'm of the opinion that even if Tom Brady or Joe Montana is your QB you should always be drafting and developing a QB every other year. If you have a good backup. Still draft a QB every other year to develop the 3rd string QB. It's the most important position in sports and that's just what I believe.  It has nothing to do with Allen and more so I want to have the best QB room in the NFL. Full stop. 

 

Now obviously I'm not talking about the first Rd or even second Rd right now but you understand what I'm saying.

 

Obviously when Allen is 33-35 and an excellent QB prospect slips similar to a drew breed or Aaron Rodgers, yes I'm taking that QB. Even if he has to sit for a few years similar to Rodgers or Love. 

 

The Packers recently and the 49ers with Montana and young are the models 

 

The pats had the perfect succession plan with garappolo but Brady went to Kraft 

Right now I like trubisky and white as the backups. You can do worse than tribs, but if a really good QB fell to the second Rd , 3rd round I would think about it. 

 

If I'm not mistaken the pats drafted Ryan mallet in rd 3 when Brady was like 32 I think 

Edited December 8 by Kelly to Allen