JP51 Posted December 6 Posted December 6 11 hours ago, billsfan89 said: New England is in my opinion the teams biggest threat in 2025. Miami is going to be in cap hell which is going to result in them having to errode talent on both sides of the ball and Tua as good as he can run that system is fragile and the team falls apart without him. The Jets are a mess and going to be doing a complete tear down or at least a major retooling. The Pats have the QB or at least a very good prospect at QB and the cap space and picks to invest around a QB. Not saying the Pats are going to be world beaters but they are likely the best of a bad bunch. I agree... if Maye progresses he looks pretty good. I think the Phins gonna do a re tool next year and I clearly have reservations on Tua's ability to stay healthy... 2 Quote
Mat68 Posted December 6 Posted December 6 2 minutes ago, JP51 said: I agree... if Maye progresses he looks pretty good. I think the Phins gonna do a re tool next year and I clearly have reservations on Tua's ability to stay healthy... Maye’s development is the chance to have a contender. With Tua’s contract kicking in this is Miami’s best team. It only gets worst from here for them imo. 1 Quote
Logic Posted December 6 Posted December 6 I'll say the same thing in this thread I said in the last "AFC East moving forward" thread: Jets and Dolphins have bad ownership. The Jets currently have Mike Tenenbaum and the 33rd team leading their GM search. Like...are you kidding me?! The Dolphins have tethered themselves to a QB and coach who I don't believe will ever have what it takes to consistently win the division. They have poor team culture and they're soft. The Patriots at least have good (albeit aging) ownership and a promising young quarterback. Things can change quickly when you find a quarterback. So of the other teams in the division, I'd tend to believe the Patriots currently have the best chance of fielding a good team moving forward, provided that Maye is the guy and that they continue to build around him. They need a BIG TIME talent infusion. The Jets and The Dolphins will continue not to scare me one bit. As others already said, and I will echo: As long as Josh Allen is the quarterback of the Buffalo Bills, they will continue to be the team to beat in the AFC East for the forseeable future. 3 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted December 6 Posted December 6 14 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: I actually disagree on the Patriots. Maye looks like he’s going to be solid at minimum. Mayo is jettisoning guys that don’t fit. Are they there yet? No of course not but I do think they’ll be the next team to challenge us but that will be another 2 or 3 years from now I totally agree that NE and Maye are the closest thing to any real threat. The Jets with Aaron are a train wreck of an organization and I could see him retiring after this season. Tua doesn't scare me and Hill is being targeted less as he ages. This division will be run by Josh for the next 10 years. Quote
ProcessTruster Posted December 6 Posted December 6 13 hours ago, billsfan89 said: New England is in my opinion the teams biggest threat in 2025. Miami is going to be in cap hell which is going to result in them having to errode talent on both sides of the ball and Tua as good as he can run that system is fragile and the team falls apart without him. The Jets are a mess and going to be doing a complete tear down or at least a major retooling. The Pats have the QB or at least a very good prospect at QB and the cap space and picks to invest around a QB. Not saying the Pats are going to be world beaters but they are likely the best of a bad bunch. Pats need a few more years in "Drought-Land" before I am satisfied they've had enough Quote
Success Posted December 6 Posted December 6 7 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Pats need a few more years in "Drought-Land" before I am satisfied they've had enough Yep. I need about another decade. Even if Maye pans out, they're not the organization they were. They've been terrible at drafting the past few years, and Pats fans complain that Kraft is pretty cheap (I think they're currently well under cap - kind of reminds me of the old days here). Though, it would be kind of fun if they were competitive again - but we were able to keep them out of 1st place consistently, kind of like how it was w/ the Dolphins in the '90s. Quote
Utah John Posted December 6 Posted December 6 The Bills are structured and operated as a long-term enterprise. They develop young players and when their rookie contracts expire, they let many of them walk away to get more dollars elsewhere than they're worth. Their personnel budgets are balanced, with only Allen and Miller getting the really big dollars. The other AFCE teams don't seem to have a clue about building and maintaining a strong balanced team. From this perspective there's no reason the Bills can't keep it going for at least two or three years, possibly longer. But things do change. Many of the Bills core players will reach the end of their rookie deals and will go elsewhere for more money than the Bills can pay. Draft picks might not pan out, leaving gaps in the structure. Other teams could get lucky. Maybe Maye turns out to be really good. Maybe the Jets draft a good QB and help that guy develop properly. Maybe Miami gets out from under two expensive contracts for WR, and uses more money at other positions. Enjoy this season. You really never know what the future holds. Quote
Chaos Posted December 6 Posted December 6 Jets and Dolphins are handicapped with QB contracts far exceeding the true value of the QB. Non-contenders for at least the next 1 to 2 years. Hard to tell with Patriots. But I think they finish ahead of the jets and dolphins next year. All far behind a healthy Bills team. Quote
dma0034 Posted December 6 Posted December 6 7 hours ago, SoTier said: I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or truly believe this. In any case, I disagree. The Jests have missed on GM, on HC, and on QB every single time they've sought to fill any of those positions since Woody Johnson purchased the team in 2000 -- and they've had a lot of chances to get something right. The best they've done was drafting QB Chad Pennington in 2000 and then signing an aging Vinnie Testaverde. The best of their HC hires was Rex Ryan. None of their GMs went on to success on other teams. As others have said, the Jests' best hope for success is new ownership. Well Woody Johnson may be stepping aside. My exact point was if they hit the right Head Coach they are in a position to draft a solid rookie QB. They have enough on Offense and Defense that I think a great HC hire (like Ben Johnson) could propel them. I think the Pats have nothing on Offense except a promising QB. Meaning they still need to get WRs and an O-Line and do that before paying Maye. I don't trust the Dolphins with Tua and they are in cap hell and Tyreek Hill is only getting older and I'm not sold on Waddle being a #1 Quote
SoTier Posted December 6 Posted December 6 1 hour ago, dma0034 said: Well Woody Johnson may be stepping aside. My exact point was if they hit the right Head Coach they are in a position to draft a solid rookie QB. They have enough on Offense and Defense that I think a great HC hire (like Ben Johnson) could propel them. I think the Pats have nothing on Offense except a promising QB. Meaning they still need to get WRs and an O-Line and do that before paying Maye. I don't trust the Dolphins with Tua and they are in cap hell and Tyreek Hill is only getting older and I'm not sold on Waddle being a #1 Johnson stepped aside before when he was Ambassador to the UK in the first Trump administration, but it didn't help the Jests then, so I don't see much real hope there. Quote
ganesh Posted December 7 Posted December 7 20 hours ago, billsfan89 said: New England is in my opinion the teams biggest threat in 2025. Miami is going to be in cap hell which is going to result in them having to errode talent on both sides of the ball and Tua as good as he can run that system is fragile and the team falls apart without him. The Jets are a mess and going to be doing a complete tear down or at least a major retooling. The Pats have the QB or at least a very good prospect at QB and the cap space and picks to invest around a QB. Not saying the Pats are going to be world beaters but they are likely the best of a bad bunch. Does Mayo have the same discipline to build a team for the long run like McDermott.. McDaniels is a very good coach who is let down by his players at crucial moments. Quote
Einstein Posted December 7 Posted December 7 Having Tua is a terrible spot to be. He’s good enough that you can’t justify letting him walk, because if you don’t have someone better to take his spot, you just made your team worse. But he’s not good enough to elevate the team either. So they’re going to be stuck for a long time in my opinion. 1 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted December 7 Posted December 7 Maye actually looks like a real talent. They could challenge buffalo in 2026 but who knows. KC is actually in a worse spot as far as competitors in their division Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted December 7 Posted December 7 16 minutes ago, Einstein said: Having Tua is a terrible spot to be. Having Tua and negative cap space is a terrible spot to be in. 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted December 7 Posted December 7 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: Having Tua and negative cap space is a terrible spot to be in. It's hilarious that Miami got old and buffalo is already younger lol And we have 2 2nd Rd picks. It's awesome 😎 Edited December 7 by Kelly to Allen 1 Quote
billsherd Posted December 8 Posted December 8 https://www.nfl.com/news/jets-wr-davante-adams-contract-allows-him-to-control-his-future-for-2025-season Adams might not be back next year. Quote
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