NFL and NFLPA agree to changes in the Marijuana and performance enhancing drug policy.

[Mr. WEO]

9 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I totally get that. I actually read a lot of the criticism of his work, and then read a lot of the underlying studies and other studies, and I think Berenson is right. The med maeijuana lobby also understandably has an interest in trying to discredit him.

 

I also have informally talked to some in the substance abuse treatment arena who anecdotally said he’s absolutely right based on their experiences. 
 

Again, I held an opposite view for a while, and have just come full circle based on what I have read so far. So I am always beating this drum when it comes to talking to kids, etc. 

 

Berenson is the worst.  Total fraud.

[DaggersEOD]

16 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

 However, they still don't want players coming to games high as a kite.  

Yeah, thats only for mid game after a trip to the blue tent 💉

[US Egg]

13 hours ago, todd said:

The NFL has long been in the dark ages when it comes to certain things. Marijuana is one. Officiating is another. 

Test the refs?

[Simon]

11 hours ago, US Egg said:

“I used to smoke marijuana. But I’ll tell you something: I would only smoke it in the late evening. Oh, occasionally the early evening, but usually the late evening – or the mid-evening. Just the early evening, midevening and late evening. Occasionally, early afternoon, early midafternoon, or perhaps the late-midafternoon. Oh, sometimes the early-mid-late-early morning. . . . But never at dusk.”

― Steve Martin

 

 

[nucci]

I enjoy my discussions with people who are against marijuana while they're drinking whiskey and smoking a cigarette.

[hondo in seattle]

I have mixed feelings.  I've voted against the legalization of marijuana because in my inexpert opinion it does more societal harm than good.  But it's legal in some places which makes it weird for the NFL to make rules about it.  How can you punish a player for perfectly legal off-the-field behavior?  

 

I'd love for NFL players to be good role models for our children...  No arrogance...  No drugs or alcohol...  No criminal behavior...  No cursing in front of the camera...  No violence - other than smacking the crap out of people on the field...  But I think the role model ship set sail a long time ago.    

[BuffaloMatt]

19 hours ago, Whkfc said:

He looks high as hell half the time anyways.

On Afrin

[ToGoGo]

19 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I've always believed the only reason the NFL was ever concerned about recreational drug use was because they had to be obtained illegally and could lead to drug dealers blackmailing players to fix games.  With marijuana legal in many places, there's no need for a ban.  However, they still don't want players coming to games high as a kite.  

 

I always saw it more as the NFL being an authority type, and just like cops being so hard on teens having a bag of weed on them from the 1970s-2010s, the NFL was the same way on it's players. 

[PromoTheRobot]

19 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I've always believed the only reason the NFL was ever concerned about recreational drug use was because they had to be obtained illegally and could lead to drug dealers blackmailing players to fix games.  With marijuana legal in many places, there's no need for a ban.  However, they still don't want players coming to games high as a kite.  

 

No serious player would do that. 

[GoBills808]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

No serious player would do that. 

percy harvin said he was high every single game he ever played in the nfl

[PromoTheRobot]

16 hours ago, MJS said:

It is still a federally banned substance.

It's a political football, excuse the pun.

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

percy harvin said he was high every single game he ever played in the nfl

There's getting into a certain headspace and there's playing "high as a kite."  Some people operate better with a mild buzz. And the more you use, you build up a tolerance.

Edited December 6 by PromoTheRobot

[Fleezoid]

Dangerous move by the NFL and NFLPA...

 

 

[Simon]

10 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:

Dangerous move by the NFL and NFLPA...

 

 

 

The irony that nobody has quite grasped yet is that the original title of this scare film was "Tell Your Children"

The title of the Alex Berenson book discussed earlier about marijuana causing violence? "Tell Your Children" 

[Augie]

19 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I don’t see that, but I can understand CBD does help with some forms of pain and sleep.  It doesn’t enhance performance.  My eldest son has had 6 sports concussions, and sometimes under his medical card uses CBDto sleep or deal with the chronic migraines.  He was a helluva an athlete on a D1 scholarship.  It’s funny as he was a great young AB, but all of the concussions came from Lax, not football, even though he played LB, and QB.  He knew how to evade people.  A little hard to do when you’re getting repeatedly cheap shotted by opponents who are getting killed by him by hitting in the back of the neck etc. to stop him.

 

I honestly could care less if they want to use thx as long as they don’t get behind the wheel.

 

Best wishes for your son going forward. That’s got to be rough.

 

Our younger son was a very good athlete and could have played college football or soccer. He got a small taste of Lax somewhere and wanted no part of it. Apparently the kids who couldn’t keep up with him tried to level the playing field by whacking him with a stick every chance they got. In football he got to hit back, and that was his favorite part. My wife is still embarrassed by a TV interview in which he came out and said hitting people was his favorite part of football. She’s such a Mom! 😂 

[US Egg]

54 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said:

On Afrin

Got hooked on Afrin…..seriously. 

[billsfan_34]

21 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I've always believed the only reason the NFL was ever concerned about recreational drug use was because they had to be obtained illegally and could lead to drug dealers blackmailing players to fix games.  With marijuana legal in many places, there's no need for a ban.  However, they still don't want players coming to games high as a kite.  

Bong Rip Josh Gordon was high for every game he played 

[JP51]

21 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I've always believed the only reason the NFL was ever concerned about recreational drug use was because they had to be obtained illegally and could lead to drug dealers blackmailing players to fix games.  With marijuana legal in many places, there's no need for a ban.  However, they still don't want players coming to games high as a kite.  

and because they didnt like Ricky Williams LOL... then ayahusca man showed up and it was all good LOL 😆 but I do think you are correct... 

Edited December 6 by JP51

[billsfanmiamioh]

14 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Problem is these days the THC content is 5x or more higher than it normally was because strains are selectively being bred for higher THC content.

 

No different than anything else...if you drank 5x more alcohol or took 5x more acetaminophen or took 5x more Ibuprofen, etc it's going to cause more severe issues that it wouldn't cause at lower doses.

 

People are using the same amount but at 5x higher strengths but yet don't seem to understand why this would be an issue as if weed somehow is different than every other substance in earth in that regard.

 

14 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Agreed. I think people assume the THC content is similar to the 1960s era pot. Like you said, it’s way higher. 

It’s not as simple as 2X stronger = 2X effects. Higher THC content just means the cannabis is more potent. It takes less of it to reach the maximum plasma concentration. Theres still a “limit” to the maximum effect of the drug.
 

The numbers thrown around for THC content in the “old” days are also skewed. Those come from stuff confiscated by the DEA which is usually low quality, “street” weed. There was still plenty of higher THC stuff floating around, it just wasn’t being measured back then like it is now in legal marketplaces. 

[Goin Breakdown]

15 hours ago, Lost said:

 

Sorry mate but the most credentialed scientists and scholars also have biases and donors and this shows up in their own studies and work.  Always good to take in both points of view, do your own research and form your own opinion.  Not just take someone's word solely because of their credentials.  

I tend to line myself with this way of thinking. You can have credentialed individuals on both sides of any issue. Most the time it turns into a "follow the money" situation. More money to be made the more the opposition will get buried and told to shut up. 

[ddaryl]

5 hours ago, nucci said:

I enjoy my discussions with people who are against marijuana while they're drinking whiskey and smoking a cigarette.

 Your pops caught you smoking, and he says, "No way"
That hypocrite smokes two packs a day