NFL and NFLPA agree to changes in the Marijuana and performance enhancing drug policy.

[Whkfc]

The NFL and NFL Players Association have agreed to changes to their policies on substance abuse and performance-enhancing drugs. The players union sent a memo to player agents on Tuesday notifying them of the changes.

According to the memo, the league and union agreed to increase the positive THC level from 150 ng/ml to 350. The two sides also agreed to reduce the fines for a positive test.

 

 

From the athletic this is a snippet.

[Albany,n.y.]

I've always believed the only reason the NFL was ever concerned about recreational drug use was because they had to be obtained illegally and could lead to drug dealers blackmailing players to fix games.  With marijuana legal in many places, there's no need for a ban.  However, they still don't want players coming to games high as a kite.  

[The Wiz]

Mike McDaniels new head of medical staff

[Whkfc]

2 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Mike McDaniels new head of medical staff

He looks high as hell half the time anyways.

[machine gun kelly]

16 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I've always believed the only reason the NFL was ever concerned about recreational drug use was because they had to be obtained illegally and could lead to drug dealers blackmailing players to fix games.  With marijuana legal in many places, there's no need for a ban.  However, they still don't want players coming to games high as a kite.  

I don’t see that, but I can understand CBD does help with some forms of pain and sleep.  It doesn’t enhance performance.  My eldest son has had 6 sports concussions, and sometimes under his medical card uses CBDto sleep or deal with the chronic migraines.  He was a helluva an athlete on a D1 scholarship.  It’s funny as he was a great young AB, but all of the concussions came from Lax, not football, even though he played LB, and QB.  He knew how to evade people.  A little hard to do when you’re getting repeatedly cheap shotted by opponents who are getting killed by him by hitting in the back of the neck etc. to stop him.

 

I honestly could care less if they want to use thx as long as they don’t get behind the wheel.

[US Egg]

Only a matter of time before they go NBA. Wonder if they’ll have to buy their own Visine? 

[BuffaloBillies]

1 hour ago, Whkfc said:

The NFL and NFL Players Association have agreed to changes to their policies on substance abuse and performance-enhancing drugs. The players union sent a memo to player agents on Tuesday notifying them of the changes.

According to the memo, the league and union agreed to increase the positive THC level from 150 ng/ml to 350. The two sides also agreed to reduce the fines for a positive test.

 

 

From the athletic this is a snippet.

 

This snippet was just enough. No need to get into the weeds 

 

[HardyBoy]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

I don’t see that, but I can understand CBD does help with some forms of pain and sleep.  It doesn’t enhance performance.  My eldest son has had 6 sports concussions, and sometimes under his medical card uses CBDto sleep or deal with the chronic migraines.  He was a helluva an athlete on a D1 scholarship.  It’s funny as he was a great young AB, but all of the concussions came from Lax, not football, even though he played LB, and QB.  He knew how to evade people.  A little hard to do when you’re getting repeatedly cheap shotted by opponents who are getting killed by him by hitting in the back of the neck etc. to stop him.

 

I honestly could care less if they want to use thx as long as they don’t get behind the wheel.

 

I played varsity lacrosse in high school...I now live in the raleigh area and go to Duke and UNC lax games, which I saw some crazy high ranked matchups, the quality of lax within a bit over half an hour from me is insane.

 

Anyway, the speed and intensity of D1 lacrosse...it's really basically a different sport, it's insane

Edited December 5 by HardyBoy

[Big Turk]

Considering it's been decriminalized pretty much everywhere, it shouldn't even be checked for.

[MJS]

17 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Considering it's been decriminalized pretty much everywhere, it shouldn't even be checked for.

It is still a federally banned substance.

[billsfanmiamioh]

16 minutes ago, MJS said:

It is still a federally banned substance.

And? 

[MJS]

Just now, billsfanmiamioh said:

And? 

And so it is not decriminalized everywhere, like the post I responded to stated. It is illegal in the United States of America. Just a fact.

[todd]

The NFL has long been in the dark ages when it comes to certain things. Marijuana is one. Officiating is another. 

 

One thing they should do is make players with a medical marijuana card exempt from the marijuana prohibition. These guys have chronic pain during the season and well into the offseason with the punishment they take. Tylenol is more dangerous to you than cannabis. NSAIDs have their own issues, and are also dangerous if taken regularly. Opiates are an excellent pain reliever but are horrible in every other way. Cannabis is excellent for pain control, especially the medically prescribed stuff that has higher CBD and CBG. Let the players relieve their pain and actually sleep. It certainly isn't without its dangers, but it is time for the NFL to come out of the dark ages.

 

 

23 minutes ago, MJS said:

It is still a federally banned substance.

 

Yep, and the federal government NEVER makes mistakes.

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

It is still a federally banned substance.

 

But nobody cares about it anymore and it's a joke that it still is.

[Simon]

Excellent!

This is the only thing that has been keeping me out of the league.

Keep an eye out for me next year. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, todd said:

The NFL has long been in the dark ages when it comes to certain things. Marijuana is one. Officiating is another. 

 

One thing they should do is make players with a medical marijuana card exempt from the marijuana prohibition. These guys have chronic pain during the season and well into the offseason with the punishment they take. Tylenol is more dangerous to you than cannabis. NSAIDs have their own issues, and are also dangerous if taken regularly. Opiates are an excellent pain reliever but are horrible in every other way. Cannabis is excellent for pain control, especially the medically prescribed stuff that has higher CBD and CBG. Let the players relieve their pain and actually sleep. It certainly isn't without its dangers, but it is time for the NFL to come out of the dark ages.

 

 

 

Yep, and the federal government NEVER makes mistakes.

my view on this has dramatically changed after I read the book “tell your children” by Alex Berenson. The medical evidence is staggering as to the causal connection between THQ And mental illness and violence. Would not want pro football players who may be prone to CTE taking medical marijuna with high quantities of THQ. 

[Virgil]

Not a single Josh Gordon comment?  C’mon people…

[Simon]

9 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

my view on this has dramatically changed after I read the book “tell your children” by Alex Berenson. The medical evidence is staggering as to the causal connection between THQ And mental illness and violence. Would not want pro football players who may be prone to CTE taking medical marijuna with high quantities of THQ. 

 

You've been had by a reefer madness knock-off:

 

 

Berenson's portrayal of scientific and medical evidence has been widely panned as inaccurate and alarmist by scientists and medical experts, who have described his arguments as "based on a deeply inaccurate misreading of science" and an attempt to stir up public fear.[6]: 1 [7]: 1 [8]

 

A group of 100 scholars and clinicians (including academics from Columbia University, Harvard Medical School, and New York University, and care providers including addiction medicine doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers) published an open letter criticizing Berenson's claim of a scientific link between cannabis use and violence.[3][6]: 1 [4] In particular, they describe his book as highly problematic because Berenson infers causation from correlation, cherry-picks data that fits his narrative, falls victim to selection bias via use of anecdotes to back up his assertions, and attributes the disproportionate rates of arrest of African-American youth[5]: 1  to the alleged violence caused by their cannabis use, despite individuals of all races using cannabis at approximately equal rates.[3]: 1 [12][6]

 

[BillsShredder83]

5 hours ago, Whkfc said:

The NFL and NFL Players Association have agreed to changes to their policies on substance abuse and performance-enhancing drugs. The players union sent a memo to player agents on Tuesday notifying them of the changes.

According to the memo, the league and union agreed to increase the positive THC level from 150 ng/ml to 350. The two sides also agreed to reduce the fines for a positive test.

 

 

From the athletic this is a snippet.

This is good news. Very interested what the PED side change is? Hopefully they open it up a bit too 🤣🤣

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Just now, Simon said:

 

Berenson's portrayal of scientific and medical evidence has been widely panned as inaccurate and alarmist by scientists and medical experts, who have described his arguments as "based on a deeply inaccurate misreading of science" and an attempt to stir up public fear.[6]: 1 [7]: 1 [8]

 

A group of 100 scholars and clinicians (including academics from Columbia University, Harvard Medical School, and New York University, and care providers including addiction medicine doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers) published an open letter criticizing Berenson's claim of a scientific link between cannabis use and violence.[3][6]: 1 [4] In particular, they describe his book as highly problematic because Berenson infers causation from correlation, cherry-picks data that fits his narrative, falls victim to selection bias via use of anecdotes to back up his assertions, and attributes the disproportionate rates of arrest of African-American youth[5]: 1  to the alleged violence caused by their cannabis use, despite individuals of all races using cannabis at approximately equal rates.[3]: 1 [12][6]

 

I totally get that. I actually read a lot of the criticism of his work, and then read a lot of the underlying studies and other studies, and I think Berenson is right. The med maeijuana lobby also understandably has an interest in trying to discredit him.

 

I also have informally talked to some in the substance abuse treatment arena who anecdotally said he’s absolutely right based on their experiences. 
 

Again, I held an opposite view for a while, and have just come full circle based on what I have read so far. So I am always beating this drum when it comes to talking to kids, etc.