United Health Care Exec Assassinated in NYC

[4th&long]

On 12/10/2024 at 6:11 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

So, we still almost next to nothing about the Butler shooter of President Trump

 

And in 24 hours, they are already showing the back X-Ray of Luigi

 

What a surprise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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What an #######!

[TH3]

14 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

The murder of the insurance company CEO being celebrated is the most distinct proof that liberals are too dumb to know what they actually believe. 15 years ago they fought to make the insurance companies involved in everyone's life because they are so wonderful but now, without anything changing, are celebrating the murder. 

You have no idea what you are talking about…nevertheless we all look forward to DT and maga putting in place a health care structure that doesn’t cost 2x what the rest of the world pays with definitively poorer results. I heard he has a plan 

[Tiberius]

38 minutes ago, TH3 said:

You have no idea what you are talking about…nevertheless we all look forward to DT and maga putting in place a health care structure that doesn’t cost 2x what the rest of the world pays with definitively poorer results. I heard he has a plan 

Concept of a plan

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

42 minutes ago, TH3 said:

You have no idea what you are talking about…nevertheless we all look forward to DT and maga putting in place a health care structure that doesn’t cost 2x what the rest of the world pays with definitively poorer results. I heard he has a plan 

Like fining people who don't get health insurance? 

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Concept of a plan

Like forcing people to get health insurance?

[B-Man]

 

 

How is it we know more about Luigi Mangione than we do about Thomas Crooks?
Monica Showalter

 

Within hours of his apprehension in Pennsylvania in connection with the cold-blooded murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, scads of information rolled out about the life and times of suspect Luigi Mangione, the 26-year-old man who has been accused of the killing, and in a very short period of time, the Internet being a fast medium.

 

We've seen pictures of his family, and heard their statements of shock and regret at the news. We learned he grew up wealthy, the son of the owner of two resorts near Baltimore. We learned he once worked in a nursing home owned by his family.

 

{snip}

 

It's in striking contrast to the last high-profile killer who came to our attention last July, Thomas Crooks, another young man with a similar background who got his name in the news for attempting to kill President Trump amid a sea of Secret Service incompetence, but did manage to murder an innocent firefighter who was nearby, and injure two others in addition to President Trump, before he was shot dead by a cop. His age was similar, his engineering background was similar, his working in a nursing home was similar

 

But we hear nothing of the level of information Mangione got from this miserable freak -- little about his political motivations, which political party he identified with, what his political views were, who his friends were, nothing about his very strange family who threw away their silverware to prevent police from finding it in a home search after the killing and attempted assassination, nothing about the strange associated classmates who could have been involved in the attack.

 

We know nothing about the strange ad he made for Blackrock, or the 18 burner phones in his backpack. We don't know who he was talking to on the phone,

seen in a video, before he launched into his assassination bid. If he had a manifesto, we haven't seen it. And his social media accounts were quickly scrubbed and shut down.

 

Now, some of this can be explained away by Mangione having an internet presence and being a non-misfit socially, which made more information available generally.

 

But that doesn't explain all of it. Where are the classmates who knew him? Why is his family so silent? Why has his social media presence been suppressed? And why is the Secret Service seemingly going out of its way to obstruct Congress? There have been quite a few shouting matches at this point.

 

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/12/how_is_it_we_know_more_about_luigi_mangione_than_we_do_about_thomas_crooks.html

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

LOL

 

 

 

 

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[Orlando Buffalo]

2 hours ago, TH3 said:

You have no idea what you are talking about…nevertheless we all look forward to DT and maga putting in place a health care structure that doesn’t cost 2x what the rest of the world pays with definitively poorer results. I heard he has a plan 

Obamacare made it a law that you must have "insurance" with a limited number of options. As for Trump I am not sure how he truly fixes it because the market that did exist, low cost plans for actual insurance, does not exist anymore and the people the plans are aimed at now get it free. In 2005 my wife and son had a plan that was $125 a month and covered cost above $5k a year at a 90% rate. That plan does not exist because of Obamacare, and now my neighbors with a child with heart condition are paying $20k just for the plan along with the $5k deductible. I find it hilarious that your comment is I have no idea what I am talking about but then agree that Obamacare is a complete crap show.

[B-Man]

 

Brian Thompson went from Jewell, Iowa (population

1,200) to leading 140,000 employees and overseeing

$280B of revenue at one of the world’s most important

companies.

 

His mom worked as a beautician, his dad at a grain elevator

—they were probably really proud when he graduated

valedictorian of his 50-person high school class.

He played basketball and the trombone, got elected homecoming king,

and worked in soybean fields and meat processing plants during summers.

 

While studying at the University of Iowa, he met the woman

who would become his wife, with whom he would have two kids.

By all accounts, he was smart, hard-working, funny, and a

thoroughly decent man.

 

This guy—not the person who murdered him in cold blood—

was everything that’s right and good about America,

and the American Dream.

May his memory be a blessing, and may his example inspire all of us to do better.

 

 

 

[JFKjr]

This is all very disheartening. I too am disenchanted with the health insurance industry, but this is wrong.

[dgrochester55]

Healthcare is a crock in this country, but this is never the answer.  The fact that wanted posters for other CEO's is even a thought, let alone celebrated by some is a snapshot of how dangerous the extreme left has become.

 

Do they really think that killing someone is going to result in the healthcare industry to say "You know maybe we should stop charging astronomical prices for plans that don't cover anything for the average policyholder and stop big pharma and the medical equipment industries from charging exorbitant prices? If anything, it makes the cause harder.

Edited December 12 by dgrochester55

[nedboy7]

Everything is the left's fault.  What a bunch of brain washed morons on here. 

[wnyguy]

15 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

Everything is the left's fault.  What a bunch of brain washed morons on here. 

Well you're half right.

[The Frankish Reich]

17 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

Everything is the left's fault.  What a bunch of brain washed morons on here. 

As usual these days, our assassins and would-be assassins can't be categorized as "left" or "right." They demonstrate the horseshoe theory of politics in action. Sometimes they are enamored of the radical socialist anarchist Unabomber. Sometimes the same guy is enamored of right-libertarians like Joe Rogan, or nuts like Jordan Peterson.

One common theme: they overconsume, overidentify, overreact.

[dgrochester55]

41 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

Everything is the left's fault.  What a bunch of brain washed morons on here. 

Ever see the media reaction when a gunmen is right leaning? You have no business throwing stones.

 

 

18 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

As usual these days, our assassins and would-be assassins can't be categorized as "left" or "right." They demonstrate the horseshoe theory of politics in action. Sometimes they are enamored of the radical socialist anarchist Unabomber. Sometimes the same guy is enamored of right-libertarians like Joe Rogan, or nuts like Jordan Peterson.

One common theme: they overconsume, overidentify, overreact.

 

Rogan and Peterson both lean left, but other lefties just dislike them because they don't have extremest, elitist and authoritarian beliefs. 

 

Your main point about some of the shooters favoring sources from both extremes at the same time is valid though.

 

Edited December 12 by dgrochester55

[TH3]

3 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

Obamacare made it a law that you must have "insurance" with a limited number of options. As for Trump I am not sure how he truly fixes it because the market that did exist, low cost plans for actual insurance, does not exist anymore and the people the plans are aimed at now get it free. In 2005 my wife and son had a plan that was $125 a month and covered cost above $5k a year at a 90% rate. That plan does not exist because of Obamacare, and now my neighbors with a child with heart condition are paying $20k just for the plan along with the $5k deductible. I find it hilarious that your comment is I have no idea what I am talking about but then agree that Obamacare is a complete crap show.

First - The ACA is a GOP template.

MAGA can stop  your complaining now - You are in charge, you got the house, the senate, the WH, SCOTUS, the "mandate"... you must be excited to shut people like me up  and roll out the the new and better MAGA health care structure for the American people!

[JFKjr]

14 hours ago, 4th&long said:

What an #######!

 

Yup, a pretty quick number of hours before we knew ALL about Luigi!

9 minutes ago, TH3 said:

First - The ACA is a GOP template.

MAGA can stop  your complaining now - You are in charge, you got the house, the senate, the WH, SCOTUS, the "mandate"... you must be excited to shut people like me up  and roll out the the new and better MAGA health care structure for the American people!

 

Enjoy the next four years!

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

55 minutes ago, TH3 said:

First - The ACA is a GOP template.

MAGA can stop  your complaining now - You are in charge, you got the house, the senate, the WH, SCOTUS, the "mandate"... you must be excited to shut people like me up  and roll out the the new and better MAGA health care structure for the American people!

Obamacare is a GOP plan? Please explain this thought process? That would like stating government efficiency is a Dem policy. I admit there is not an easy fix for the debacle that has come from Obamacare and it likely will be left for next president because it is not simply reversing Obamacare since we would need to have created some small insurance companies that are illegal currently. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

First - The ACA is a GOP template.

MAGA can stop  your complaining now - You are in charge, you got the house, the senate, the WH, SCOTUS, the "mandate"... you must be excited to shut people like me up  and roll out the the new and better MAGA health care structure for the American people!

Please explain, this aught to be good.

[dgrochester55]

3 hours ago, TH3 said:

First - The ACA is a GOP template.

MAGA can stop  your complaining now - You are in charge, you got the house, the senate, the WH, SCOTUS, the "mandate"... you must be excited to shut people like me up  and roll out the the new and better MAGA health care structure for the American people!

 

1 hour ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Please explain, this aught to be good.

 

They might try to say that the Republican party put through a similar plan in 1993, but it is one of those cases where the media and left try to spin something that is slightly based on a grain of truth as fully accurate, indisputable gospel. If would be like saying that Josh Allen was just like JP Losman because they both had a rocket arm while ignoring the other factors that make them clearly different. The link below explains it better. Use your own judgment based on what is says.

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2013/nov/15/ellen-qualls/aca-gop-health-care-plan-1993/

 

TlDR: The reality is that Multiple bills were proposed including this one which was proposed including one by the more center leaning Republicans with a similar marketplace concept as the ACA, but not really like it otherwise. It wasn't even the one that they picked within the party and most Republicans opposed it.

 

Poltifact says it is half true, but that is being quite generous, to me more like 10-20 percent true

 

Edit: It is also funny how we've been told for over a decade how Obama is the greatest and gets full credit for the plan, but as soon as it is not popular "It was the Repubicians idea", because a few in the party came up with a plan that happened to have a few similarities 30 years ago.

Edited December 12 by dgrochester55