Unforgiven Posted December 12 Posted December 12 3 hours ago, TH3 said: First - The ACA is a GOP template. MAGA can stop your complaining now - You are in charge, you got the house, the senate, the WH, SCOTUS, the "mandate"... you must be excited to shut people like me up and roll out the the new and better MAGA health care structure for the American people! Awww. you're cute...want a cookie
TH3 Posted December 13 Posted December 13 4 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Obamacare is a GOP plan? Please explain this thought process? That would like stating government efficiency is a Dem policy. I admit there is not an easy fix for the debacle that has come from Obamacare and it likely will be left for next president because it is not simply reversing Obamacare since we would need to have created some small insurance companies that are illegal currently. 2 hours ago, dgrochester55 said: They might try to say that the Republican party put through a similar plan in 1993, but it is one of those cases where the media and left try to spin something that is slightly based on a grain of truth as fully accurate, indisputable gospel. If would be like saying that Josh Allen was just like JP Losman because they both had a rocket arm while ignoring the other factors that make them clearly different. The link below explains it better. Use your own judgment based on what is says. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2013/nov/15/ellen-qualls/aca-gop-health-care-plan-1993/ TlDR: The reality is that Multiple bills were proposed including this one which was proposed including one by the more center leaning Republicans with a similar marketplace concept as the ACA, but not really like it otherwise. It wasn't even the one that they picked within the party and most Republicans opposed it. Poltifact says it is half true, but that is being quite generous, to me more like 10-20 percent true Edit: It is also funny how we've been told for over a decade how Obama is the greatest and gets full credit for the plan, but as soon as it is not popular "It was the Repubicians idea", because a few in the party came up with a plan that happened to have a few similarities 30 years ago. 4 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Obamacare is a GOP plan? Please explain this thought process? That would like stating government efficiency is a Dem policy. I admit there is not an easy fix for the debacle that has come from Obamacare and it likely will be left for next president because it is not simply reversing Obamacare since we would need to have created some small insurance companies that are illegal currently. GOP template I see you are already bailing on the ability of 47 to do better…weak. I know there are more important things he wants to get at right away which will most definitely have both immediate and long lasting benefits. I mean getting rid of vaccines and fluoride, punking enemies with Kash, eliminating the DOE…tariffs, spending billions to remove a work force…..gonna be great to be great again
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 13 Posted December 13 26 minutes ago, TH3 said: GOP template I see you are already bailing on the ability of 47 to do better…weak. I know there are more important things he wants to get at right away which will most definitely have both immediate and long lasting benefits. I mean getting rid of vaccines and fluoride, punking enemies with Kash, eliminating the DOE…tariffs, spending billions to remove a work force…..gonna be great to be great again It was discussed and rejected by the GOP in the early 90s and in 2008 when it gets almost no GOP votes it is still the GOP? Do you still think everything Carter said is what the Dems hold dear? As for Trump I said he could not fix it, he will improve it by simply making the VA more efficient.
dgrochester55 Posted December 13 Posted December 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, TH3 said: GOP template I see you are already bailing on the ability of 47 to do better…weak. I know there are more important things he wants to get at right away which will most definitely have both immediate and long lasting benefits. I mean getting rid of vaccines and fluoride, punking enemies with Kash, eliminating the DOE…tariffs, spending billions to remove a work force…..gonna be great to be great again This is satire, right? I mean it is just such a way off and unhinged rant that i find it hard to believe that you are serious. 1 hour ago, Orlando Buffalo said: It was discussed and rejected by the GOP in the early 90s and in 2008 when it gets almost no GOP votes it is still the GOP? Do you still think everything Carter said is what the Dems hold dear? As for Trump I said he could not fix it, he will improve it by simply making the VA more efficient. I find it hilarious how Obama was a hero for 15 years for coming up with it but as soon as it is starting to be undeniably bad to the point where it can be spun by the media as good and unfavorable to the majority, the narrative is suddenly "It WaS rEaLlY tHe RePuBliCanS!" Very similar to how the media was calling Trump uncaring and stingy for not accepting the bloated version of the Dems stimulus packages in 2020, but then blamed for overspending in 2020 and cause the deficit by the very same people four years later. Edited December 13 by dgrochester55 1
thenorthremembers Posted December 16 Posted December 16 2 hours ago, B-Man said: . And the reason they lost the election. 1
SCBills Posted Friday at 12:57 AM Posted Friday at 12:57 AM This show of force is so over the top. I think Luigi is a misguided garbage human for what he did, but this image goes hard af 1
ChiGoose Posted Friday at 01:20 AM Posted Friday at 01:20 AM 21 minutes ago, SCBills said: This show of force is so over the top. I think Luigi is a misguided garbage human for what he did, but this image goes hard af 100% agree. The best thing they could have done was treat him as a nobody. This is just going to feed into the stupid hero narrative. 1
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