Just caught a blantant cheap shot at our QB from last week

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

The prior two games it was guys punching him in the head.  This week a blatant helmet-to-helmet hit that caused him to lose feeling down his left arm.

3rd and 6 at the 49ers 34 yard line.  Josh calls his own number - QB draw.  He hits a linebacker and gets held up.  Here comes Fred Warner leading with his helmet and BAM!  Watch Josh's head snap.  Play starts at the 1:11 mark.
 

 

[boyst]

Suspend him 3 games!

[Buffalo Boy]

He’s a running back. There’s a scrum. It’s a clean football play. Running backs are hit like that constantly.

[Not at the table Karlos]

I don’t think it’s dirty. 

[TNBills]

Reaching here about a nothing play.

[todd]

Yeah, he popped him in the head, and clearly led with his helmet. Can't do that. You can call that a "football play" if you want, but the rules are pretty clear and he led with his head and hit josh in the head. Facts are facts.

[Buffalo716]

I don't think it's dirty but it clearly is now against the rules because you can't lead with the crown of your helmet 

 

So I mean it is a penalty in 2024 but it happens a bunch every game and is basically only called when the guy is defenseless

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

The prior two games it was guys punching him in the head.  This week a blatant helmet-to-helmet hit that caused him to lose feeling down his left arm.

3rd and 6 at the 49ers 34 yard line.  Josh calls his own number - QB draw.  He hits a linebacker and gets held up.  Here comes Fred Warner leading with his helmet and BAM!  Watch Josh's head snap.  Play starts at the 1:11 mark.
 

 

 

Josh is a running back for that play.  He's not down by contact, nor is he trying to give himself up.  In fact he keeps fighting for yards.

You can't lead with your helmet, so it's not legal and should be a penalty by rule, but just like DPI and holding, a lot of that goes on every game and is not called.

 

If we don't want Josh taking shots like that, he has to stop running those QB draws..  Simple as that.

52 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

He’s a running back. There’s a scrum. It’s a clean football play. Running backs are hit like that constantly.

 

It's not a clean football play.  Can't lead with the crown of the helmet.  So by rule, it's a foul.  But you're correct that RBs are hit like that constantly and it's not usually called unless the player is "defenseless"

Edited December 5 by Beck Water

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Josh is a running back for that play.  He's not down by contact, nor is he trying to give himself up.  In fact he keeps fighting for yards.

You can't lead with your helmet, so it's not legal and should be a penalty by rule, but just like DPI and holding, a lot of that goes on every game and is not called.

 

If we don't want Josh taking shots like that, he has to stop running those QB draws..  Simple as that.

Agreed

[harmonkillebrew]

Not called, but should be a fine.  Definitely led with his head.

[Buffalo716]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Josh is a running back for that play.  He's not down by contact, nor is he trying to give himself up.  In fact he keeps fighting for yards.

You can't lead with your helmet, so it's not legal and should be a penalty by rule, but just like DPI and holding, a lot of that goes on every game and is not called.

 

If we don't want Josh taking shots like that, he has to stop running those QB draws..  Simple as that.

 

It's not a clean football play.  Can't lead with the crown of the helmet.  So by rule, it's a foul.  But you're correct that RBs are hit like that constantly and it's not usually called unless the player is "defenseless"

People always B and moan about the refs...

 

But I'm not a guy who usually gets that deep into it... I would never want to have that job and be put in that position 

 

It is a thankless job and you get nothing but hate... And at speed of the game certainly not easy

[Saint Doug]

Normal football play, except for Tua. He would’ve been down. 

[Simon]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

People always B and moan about the refs...

 

But I'm not a guy who usually gets that deep into it... I would never want to have that job and be put in that position 

 

It is a thankless job and you get nothing but hate... And at speed of the game certainly not easy

 

It's probably even worse than being a moderator for a bunch of drunk Polacks.....

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Simon said:

 

It's probably even worse than being a moderator for a bunch of drunk Polacks.....

Hey don't call me a polack!

[BearNorth]

If Josh is running the ball, and the #1 ranked LB in the league hits him with a helmet to helmet shot, what are the 7 officials on the field and the sky judge looking at?  Gotta wonder...

 

[without a drought]

He lost feeling from getting hit in the funny bone, not the head.

[Man with No Name]

They 100% should not be running those plays with him until the playoffs or at least end of game when big things are on the line. 

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

I don't think it's dirty but it clearly is now against the rules because you can't lead with the crown of your helmet 

 

So I mean it is a penalty in 2024 but it happens a bunch every game and is basically only called when the guy is defenseless

Yup. Penalty is rarely called. 

[PonyBoy]

Isn't this why they wear helmets?

 

It's why I don't like the RTP when a raised arm glances off the helmet. 

 

It's for protection, that's why they all where them, it's a contact sport. 

[Boatdrinks]

11 minutes ago, without a drought said:

He lost feeling from getting hit in the funny bone, not the head.

Well, that’s what he said anyway. May be true but it’s unclear at best.