The Frankish Reich Posted Monday at 11:32 PM Posted Monday at 11:32 PM 11 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Thankish, Frankish. Assuming you're correct, this is why I simply follow the mindset that voters tend to be very strident when they feel the other party is guilty of wrongdoing, yet quite comfortable when it's their guy pimping the agenda they prefer. So, that brings me to the notion that after the last 4 years of unprecedented legal action by JB against one man, he (JB) would be quite foolish not to unconditionally pardon family members/business associates etc in the future. Trump should follow suit, of course as/if the political landscape changes. This raises another question imo, for a Pres/DOJ(assume Trump here)--assuming wrong-doers (Biden family members or close associates) cannot "be got" due to pardons, does an aggressive prosecutor look for second tier targets for political gain? For example, they look into/around Jill Biden for example, make a case and push forward. Or, they revisit wrongdoing by someone like Hillary Clinton...Ashley Biden (Assuming she wasn't preemptively pardoned of course). It's been ugly the past 4 years but could get much uglier still. I think that's right. They will target second and third rank relatives and supporters. 1
IrishLass Posted Monday at 11:40 PM Posted Monday at 11:40 PM 48 minutes ago, 4th&long said: 1 hour ago, 4th&long said: One the trump family started. That is why they are not allowed to run a charity anymore. It was a children's cancer charity I believe. Kinda like Trump U. All scams. But you go ahead and support them. Great people they are. This is all the Libs have left for talking points? lol. 1
4th&long Posted Monday at 11:51 PM Posted Monday at 11:51 PM 28 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: You seem to have a hatred of government but are directing at the guy who has only been in government for a total of 4 years and was fought every step of the way. If you feel the tax burden in NYS is too high why do you stay? I am sorry that you feel the government has screwed you so badly, but I pay my taxes fully and have literally never taken any deductions beyond the standard, even the year I gave a car away, because I did not get the proper documentation of who received it. I stay because of my wife, she never wanted to leave her parents and I didn't want to make her leave. I would have been gone before we had kids. I said before I would give him a chance. I don't have much hope for him but maybe he will surprise me. I'm not really in the mood to argue for four years. 12 minutes ago, IrishLass said: This is all the Libs have left for talking points? lol. Now that's funny. I listed just a few things, I could go on, but it's not worth it. I don't have to prove anything trump does. The joke will be on you.
All_Pro_Bills Posted yesterday at 01:49 PM Posted yesterday at 01:49 PM I expect the legal premise behind "preemptive" pardons is going to face some legal challenges. What if one of these individuals killed 10 people in, say, 2018? Well, too bad, they can't be prosecuted because they were pardoned for anything and everything they did before 1/20/25 and can't be charged, tried, and convicted of any crime.
BillsFanNC Posted yesterday at 02:03 PM Author Posted yesterday at 02:03 PM 5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I expect the legal premise behind "preemptive" pardons is going to face some legal challenges. What if one of these individuals killed 10 people in, say, 2018? Well, too bad, they can't be prosecuted because they were pardoned for anything and everything they did before 1/20/25 and can't be charged, tried, and convicted of any crime. Or the promise of a pardon going forward. What's to stop Trump from bringing in staff to purposely commit crimes behind the scenes knowing that they'll just receive a preemptive pardon at the end of his term? I mean that would be par for the course for Hitler, right? Seems like during Trump 45 we were constantly being told the administration was crawling with criminal activists who could have used preemptive pardons....yet it didn't happen.
LeviF Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 20 hours ago, B-Man said: Now remove him from this plane of existence.
BillsFanNC Posted 20 hours ago Author Posted 20 hours ago Former FBI Dir. Chris Wray to Biden, in a Jan 10th letter: "I hope these letters are unnecessary, and that you are not considering a pardon or commutation," he wrote. "But on behalf of the FBI family, and out of an abundance of caution, I want to make sure our position is clear: Peltier is a remorseless killer, who brutally murdered two of our own–Special Agents Jack Coler and Ronald Williams. Granting Peltier any relief from his conviction or sentence is wholly unjustified and would be an affront to the rule of law." npr.org/2025/01/20/g-s… 1
Doc Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Did any of the rumored Repubs asking for pardons before Trump left Office the first time actually ask for them? Or was that more "anonymous sources"?
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