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1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

 

I don’t know if they help themselves if he just sits on the practice squad. 
 

He’ll find his way back into the field. 
 

This team can’t let go signing ghosts of Christmas past. 
 

Does he hurt them if he sits on the PS?  
 

Micah is a leader of men and has the highest football iq in the safety room.  Who knows if he’ll play or not, but I’m positive that he’ll make a positive impact in our locker room and sitting in the safety room each and every day.  If we win a Sb, he gets a ring.  A well deserved ring.  
 

You would for sure spin this into something negative.  Right on cue.  Micah Hyde- a ghost of Christmas past

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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

Late to the party here but I kind of don't like this. With Hyde's neck issues I would rather he just stay retired. I get it, it's hard to give the game up, but one bad hit could cause decades of issues. I really don't want to see that happen.

 

But hey I hope he gets a much deserved Super Bowl ring this year, and that he gets it without having to take the field a single time.

 

I think that's all it is. I would be shocked if he saw the field. Even if they need to elevate someone because of injury - it wouldn't surprise me if that person was Kareem Jackson or Lewis Cine first as they've been practicing with the team all season and Micah Hyde is coming off the couch having not been in a Football building for close to a year.

 

Ultimately, I see this as simply putting him on the sidelines and the locker room as a Leader while they chase a ring and give him a ring.

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I was out of pocket all day doing fun outdoor stuff so didn't see this until just now. 

 

Just my uninformed opinion, but I would not be surprised at all to see Hyde starting in the playoffs.  He may have lost a quarter to half step, but he is going to be in position and anticipates where to be.  He can tackle.  He just seems like a smart player.

 

However it works out he is an upgrade to the roster. 

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45 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So he’s still slow. Good to know. 

 

Time is relative. In retired guy’s years he’s middle of the pack. 

 

But he’s also unlikely to make mental errors, and they value that. 

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59 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I think that's all it is. I would be shocked if he saw the field. Even if they need to elevate someone because of injury - it wouldn't surprise me if that person was Kareem Jackson or Lewis Cine first as they've been practicing with the team all season and Micah Hyde is coming off the couch having not been in a Football building for close to a year.

 

Ultimately, I see this as simply putting him on the sidelines and the locker room as a Leader while they chase a ring and give him a ring.

Injury insurance. If Rapp or Hamlin goes down we obviously don’t want Cole Bishop, who has no experience, to be in charge of the back end. He’s a player / coach who is well loved and is a great addition to the team culture

4 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

So just curious about the rules.  So Hyde is on PS , normally if another team wants to sign a player to their 53 man roster, they can "steal" anyone off another teams PS.  Does the player have the option to say, "thanks but no thanks!" and not accept?  Or is it more like a waiver claim where player doesn't have a choice.  Probably 99% of the time the player would jump at the chance, I'd assume in this case Hyde would say no, but just wondering about the actual rule on this.

Of course they have the option not to sign.

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Micah has incredible football instincts and is a great playmaker and leader, but he looked slow as molasses when he was last out there.  I'd much rather have him as a locker room presence and insurance plan, but I have to assume he only signed because he's going to start once he's reacclimated.

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11 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Poyer likely gets the same treatment someday. Maybe even next year. 

 

I dunno.  I think Poyer kind of left with hard feelings.  He had signed a 2 year contract "intending to retire a Bill", the team cut him, and it was pretty clear that he wasn't happy about that.   He has a house in S. Florida and his wife loves it there.  I don't think he'll want to return to Buffalo.

Hyde was a free agent and was reportedly unsure whether or not he wanted to retire.  Different situations, different outcomes.

Edit: now that I've watched the interview with Hyde, I think family has to do with it too.  Apparently Hyde's wife loves it in Buffalo and feels part of the community.  Rachel Bush was open about "hating that she has to live in New York State".

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15 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

Micah has incredible football instincts and is a great playmaker and leader, but he looked slow as molasses when he was last out there.  I'd much rather have him as a locker room presence and insurance plan, but I have to assume he only signed because he's going to start once he's reacclimated.

 

I don't think that at all.  Rapp and Hamlin have been doing a capable job.  I think Micah is this year's help with the film room, sideline coach, "break glass in emergency" AJ Klein.  I think it looks like the Bills may have something and he hopes he can be part of it, even a small part.

 

I think what players really lose as they age is their recovery.  They don't recover as well during the week.  So the 2nd week let's say they're 85%, then the next week even less, maybe 70%,  so then by week 12 or so they're down to like 35-50% of their off-season peak.  It's like Steve Smith and Zo Alexander said on one hilarious piece they did about the difference between vets and young players "They don't listen 'cuz they young.  They roll out of bed on Tuesday and go.  We "unh-uh, not this day,  I need that deep acupuncture"

If he's just playing 2-3 games Hyde may have more left to him.

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Zero chance he came back with the intention of sitting on the bench or mentoring younger players. Zero. At the very least, he's been told he will have the opportunity to play, if not start.

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I don’t expect him to be a starter barring injuries.

 

He’s here to be an insurance policy that can be a great locker room guy and asset for the team off the field. 
 

I see him as the break glass in the emergency situation role. Come playoff time if we lose a safety, we aren’t left with either a rookie, or a practice squad lifer for an important game. We’ll have a guy who’s best days are past him but in a pinch still knows this defense inside and out while bringing his all. Plus he’ll probably get some snaps in one of the Patriots games as long as we stay healthy just to give him a home game to play in and get up to game speed.

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3 hours ago, HomeTeam said:

After everything he's gone through, he's not afraid to throw his body in the way for the team. And for that I tip my hat to him. 

 

You know I wonder if that incident was not really psychologically traumatic for him. Because he didn't really experience it. One second he was playing football, the next second he was waking up in a hospital and his face was on the cover of magazines. Like when a player tears their ACL it's hard not to think about it every time they cut on that leg after their long recovery because the memory of the injury is vivid. With Hamlin there is no imprinted memory, nothing that would instinctively make him cringe when he goes to lay a big hit. I'm not taking anything away from his courage stepping back on the football field after going through that, but it's something I've thought about.

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1 hour ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

Micah has incredible football instincts and is a great playmaker and leader, but he looked slow as molasses when he was last out there.  I'd much rather have him as a locker room presence and insurance plan, but I have to assume he only signed because he's going to start once he's reacclimated.

 

 

So about 3 minutes in Hyde is talking about his expected role.  He doesn't at all sound like a guy who "only signed because he's going to start once he's reacclimated".  He talks about how "it's a new role for me"

 

He sounds like a guy who's excited for where the team is and wants to help any way he can.  At least, he sounds that way to me.  Judge for yourself.

 

I think he's lost weight though, his face looks really skinny.

LOL at the part where he talks about how his locker was still there but Taron and D Ham went through it and got a lot of his stuff, but he's going to see him wearing it and s n a t c h it back.

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4 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

So just curious about the rules.  So Hyde is on PS , normally if another team wants to sign a player to their 53 man roster, they can "steal" anyone off another teams PS.  Does the player have the option to say, "thanks but no thanks!" and not accept?  Or is it more like a waiver claim where player doesn't have a choice.  Probably 99% of the time the player would jump at the chance, I'd assume in this case Hyde would say no, but just wondering about the actual rule on this.

 

A practice squad player is officially a free agent, with a few extra wrinkles.  So like any free agent, when a team tries to sign them they can say "no" or "yes".

Back when the Bills were a bad team, they actually had several players they tried to sign off another team's practice squad who said "thanks, I'm Good."

 

There is a minimum salary, but a vet player can be paid more.  I think I heard $890,000 per season is the practice squad maximum, which is pretty much $50k per game.

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11 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

I mean if its the PS for now thats perfectly fine. Gives him time to get back into football shape and to acclimate back. I have no idea what the plan is for him. Does he eventually take over for Hamlin or is he there more to be a mentor and locker room guy for a guy like Bishop.

...both

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3 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

 

I don’t know if they help themselves if he just sits on the practice squad. 
 

He’ll find his way back into the field. 
 

This team can’t let go signing ghosts of Christmas past. 
 

 

When the Ram-a-Lambs won the Superbowl in 2021, their safeties were Eric Weddle and Taylor Rapp.  Weddle signed to the practice squad after the season when Rapp was in concussion protocol and their other starting safety Jordan Fuller (the defensive play caller) went on IR.  He had to learn the defense (which allegedly took him just two days), but wound up wearing the "green dot" and calling the defensive plays in the Superbowl.  Eric Weddle had retired after 2019 and literally spent 2020 and 2021 at home with his kids and coaching Pee Wee football or something like that.

 

So sometimes signing the ghosts of the past works out.

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28 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

You know I wonder if that incident was not really psychologically traumatic for him. Because he didn't really experience it. One second he was playing football, the next second he was waking up in a hospital and his face was on the cover of magazines. Like when a player tears their ACL it's hard not to think about it every time they cut on that leg after their long recovery because the memory of the injury is vivid. With Hamlin there is no imprinted memory, nothing that would instinctively make him cringe when he goes to lay a big hit. I'm not taking anything away from his courage stepping back on the football field after going through that, but it's something I've thought about.


Interesting take/thought. I’d love to hear a psychologist dissect that.  

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