Damar Hamlin leading pro bowl voting

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 hours ago, Brand J said:

After week 13:

 

Damar Hamlin out of 86 qualifying safeties:

Coverage Grade: Hamlin's coverage grade of 59.8 ranks him 82nd out of 86 safeties, reflecting struggles in pass defense. He has allowed 16 receptions in coverage, with a passer rating of 68.6 when targeted. While the passer rating is respectable, his coverage grade indicates inconsistent play

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Run Defense Grade: His run defense grade of 64.3 ranks 79th, showing difficulties in making impactful stops near the line of scrimmage compared to his peers

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Total Pressures and Pass Rush: Hamlin has recorded zero pressures and ranks 81st in pass-rush productivity, indicating a minimal impact when blitzing

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Stops (Impactful Tackles): Hamlin ranks 28th with only 14 "stops" (defined as tackles that constitute a failure for the offense), suggesting limited effectiveness in creating negative plays for opposing offenses

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Missed Tackle Rate: As noted, his 13.1% missed tackle rate ranks 77th, reinforcing concerns about tackling reliability. If you take into account every possible safety, his ranking is 129th. 

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I don’t think PFF is an accurate rating system for our defensive scheme not that I think Hamlin is pro bowl caliber either though 😂

 

he seems mediocre to me at worst and mediocre guys leading pro bowl voting isn’t super unusual even without a heartwarming story involved 

Edited December 7 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Sierra Foothills]

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

Because the guys they brought in to replace him also sucked?

 

Here's the scenario.

 

Hamlin knows the defense because he's been here a while, he's cheap but he sucks.

 

The Bills draft a safety in the second round and bring in an FA who has started at a decent level in the NFL in Mike Edwards.

 

The rookie gets hurt and isn't ready. Edwards sucks more than Hamlim. Hamlin starts by default.

 

Hamlin still sucks. The guys they brought in to challenge him sucked more. So they bring in a semi-retired vet with his head falling off to replace him because they actually think he may be better.

 

Fair enough.

 

Why has Hamlin kept Kareem Jackson from being activated?

 

[FireChans]

41 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Fair enough.

 

Why has Hamlin kept Kareem Jackson from being activated?

 

Because he also sucks. 
 

Credit to Hamlin, he beat out the rest of a bad bunch. 

[Sierra Foothills]

33 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Because he also sucks. 
 

Credit to Hamlin, he beat out the rest of a bad bunch. 

 

It's possible that Hamlin starting at safety is no more than a "marriage of convenience."

 

I think the proof of his abilities will be whether or not he's starting next year for the Bills.

 

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

It's possible that Hamlin starting at safety is no more than a "marriage of convenience."

 

I think the proof of his abilities will be whether or not he's starting next year for the Bills.

 

I have every confidence in the world that Hamlin will not be a Bill next season. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

45 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Because he also sucks. 
 

Credit to Hamlin, he beat out the rest of a bad bunch. 

imagine if Kareem Jackson had to start!  him and rapp would destroy each other back there. 

[Beck Water]

33 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

imagine if Kareem Jackson had to start!  him and rapp would destroy each other back there. 

 

I'm more worried about them destroying Benford, Bernard, and Douglas (shades of Pittsburgh game)

[Maine-iac]

5 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I don’t think PFF is an accurate rating system for our defensive scheme not that I think Hamlin is pro bowl caliber either though 😂

 

he seems mediocre to me at worst and mediocre guys leading pro bowl voting isn’t super unusual even without a heartwarming story involved 

Winfield Jr is ranked lower than Hamlin and has given up less catches and has less missed tackles and was the highest graded safety in the league last year.  Hamilton has given up 39 receptions and 13 missed tackles and given up a passer rating of over 100 and is the 4th ranked safety on their list.  When someone uses PFF grades as an argument for how bad or good someone is it's hard to take anything else seriously.  Lots of opinions offered but I haven't seen one good argument as to why Hamlin isn't doing a good job at safety.  I'd agree he's not Ed Reed or a young Micah Hyde but for the cap space we're using on Hamlin you'd be hard pressed to find a better player.  You can't pay everyone on the roster 10 million dollars.