Antonio Brown says a little girl thrown down stairs at Bills??

[Simon]

I love kids, would do terrible things to other human beings just to protect them and I really don't want to be an ogre.

But something about this still doesn't smell right.

Please stop posting any links to their Gofundme here.

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, stevewin said:

IMO - at this point I think it should be obvious to everyone that the mother's initial report of her child being "pushed down the stairs" is incontrovertibly untrue.  The father came out with another version - being bumped - that is closer to the realm of possibility  - though the level of intent/rudeness/evil of the perpetrator is still up for debate. 

 

It sucks that there was likely some drunk a-hole that might have acted improperly and negatively impacted this family's experience, but the inflammatory (and untrue) "pushed down the stairs" that the mother initially posted on social media is also improper behavior by her.   It was irresponsible to misrepresent the incident using such violent imagery in a public forum.  Why aren't any of the 'journalists' reporting on this not asking her why her "pushed down the stairs" story does not match what her husband says - and ask her if she wants to amend her initial account.  That might help to put the incident in more perspective and quell some of the the extreme negative reaction towards the entire fanbase that has come from it

Sorry but the whole thing stinks.  Especially when factoring in immediately dropping a donation link, which on its own isnt enough.  Add in changing story.  Add in no witnesses.  Add in this weird obsession with victim culture.  Add in an over the top movie quality villain plot.  The story is a smoking pile of BS.  There'd be a million other tweets from fans having seen it.  I refuse to believe we've had minimum problems with violence against opposing fans, and suddenly the first mark against us is "pushing an 8yr old with cancer down the stairs because shes a 9ers fan."

 

It's BS.  Its already coming out, and will continue to be disproven, by fans attending, ppl who sat directly near them, and likely at some point an official statement from the team after reviewing a place with as many active cameras per square foot as Niagara Falls.  Fans footage.  TV Crews. Stadium Security.

 

Meanwhile the story has circulated hard as click bait.  Nobody will use objective reasoning at first glance, and theyll remember it as fact.  When official investigation fully disproves it, next to none of the ppl who shared/pushed clickbait story will share the update, and it will remain a stain on the team and fans reputations, with some folks, permanently.

 

When the unequivocally disprove it, I hope the parents donations are lifted, and the parents prosecuted.  Otherwise the team should sue the ever living snot out of them, and at closing settle, laaaaast minute, for $1.  Textbook malicious slander IMO.  Part of me says take their house and 25% of parents income the rest of their lives if you can, but this isnt on the child, and in destroying the parents, she'd become collateral damage.... but drag them through the courts, push the story as hard as you can to dispel as much as possible.  Make the parents sweat it out.  Let them know you couldve took the house and a % of their paychecks forever... then last minute settle for $1

 

Also, permanent ban from the parents in the stadium (not that theyd care)

[May Day 10]

The Bills have zero to gain by opposing these people.  Even if (when) they reviewed the technology and couldnt find anything.

 

Would be terrible PR, even if they are 100% correct.  

[Just Jack]

45 minutes ago, RkFast said:

Im not going to condone any bad behavior here....but you go to a night football game in bad weather and sit in the upper deck wearing opposing teams colors and youre shocked(!!) at rowdy crowd behaviour?  What's your encore, lady? Dropping by the Hell's Angels clubhouse on a Saturday evening riding a Honda?

 

 

[DrDawkinstein]

50 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Ppl throw this around willy nilly, but in the most literal sense, this is the single greatest tweet of all time lol been there

 

It's honestly my favorite all time tweet as well. Given the context of how broken and unhinged he actually is, it's just so perfect. Like a brief moment of self-awareness and lucidity and he makes it a hilarious joke poem.

[stevewin]

1 hour ago, Just Jack said:

 

Different kid, like they used to do the Kickoff Kid who would run out and grab the tee after kickoff.  It could be the "Game Day Kid Down The Stairs" contest, and parents could submit video of them pushing their kid down a flight of stairs to participate.  

Then after they move to the new stadium, and the current stadium is demolished - leave a Pit on the site of the old stadium, complete with a stairway, to push the kid into the Pit for the "Kid Down The Stairs" contest

 

(not sure if giving them hallucinogens and dunking them in a porta-potty first would be going too far...)

Edited December 4 by stevewin

[May Day 10]

8 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Then after they move to the new stadium, and the current stadium is demolished - leave a Pit on the site of the old stadium, complete with a stairway, to push the kid into the Pit for the "Kid Down The Stairs" contest

 

(not sure if giving them hallucinogens and dunking them in a porta-potty first would be going too far...)

 

Like NFL Today, they should also pre-break the kids so we don't hurt ourselves.

[BillsShredder83]

4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

There are far more good natured Bills fans out there than these idiots.  I told my wife if I was in those stands if security wouldn’t stop those morons at the snowball point, I would’ve.  That’s not talking tough.  That’s my ethics watching a poor little kid being picked on.  So what if she like the 49ers.

 

You want to G rated heck the family, or just playfully kid when we score, that’s the price when you wear the opponents gear.  Even that is a stretch with an 8 yr old.  
 

im just embarrassed for the elements of the mafia that thinks it’s cool to be distrspectdul to the elderly, or women, or children.  Maybe I’m old school.

 

I also blame security as they should’ve been instructed to watching out for snowballs at the opposing fans or players.  Throw them out immediately.

Don’t let an emotionally manipulative story trick you just because it enrages you—it’s designed to.

 

This never happened. Nobody targeted the little girl with a push or a snowball.

If it had, that fan would’ve caught a 1,000-man beatdown with Bills jerseys flying everywhere. THIS. DID. NOT. HAPPEN.

 

Stories like this—helpless victims attacked by crazed villains for no reason—are always manipulative. Every time.

 

"They spray-painted a wheelchair-bound CIVIL WAR VETERAN’s face blue, stole his Medal of Honor and last picture of his family, shouted, ‘THIS IS BILLS COUNTRY!’ and chastised the veteran for sneezing without covering his mouth."

 

This isn’t directed at you, but people need to be smarter at spotting these. If your kid was called into the principal’s office for fighting and said, “I was just minding my business, smiled warmly, and the other kid attacked me unprovoked,” would you take it at face value? Or would you dig deeper, suspecting there’s more to the story?

Even if you found out your kid provoked the other, it wouldn’t absolve the attacker—but you’d at least have context. So why accept an over-the-top, victim/hero, fabricated story from a stranger without question?

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Sorry but the whole thing stinks.  Especially when factoring in immediately dropping a donation link, which on its own isnt enough.  Add in changing story.  Add in no witnesses.  Add in this weird obsession with victim culture.  Add in an over the top movie quality villain plot.  The story is a smoking pile of BS.  There'd be a million other tweets from fans having seen it.  I refuse to believe we've had minimum problems with violence against opposing fans, and suddenly the first mark against us is "pushing an 8yr old with cancer down the stairs because shes a 9ers fan."

 

It's BS.  Its already coming out, and will continue to be disproven, by fans attending, ppl who sat directly near them, and likely at some point an official statement from the team after reviewing a place with as many active cameras per square foot as Niagara Falls.  Fans footage.  TV Crews. Stadium Security.

 

Meanwhile the story has circulated hard as click bait.  Nobody will use objective reasoning at first glance, and theyll remember it as fact.  When official investigation fully disproves it, next to none of the ppl who shared/pushed clickbait story will share the update, and it will remain a stain on the team and fans reputations, with some folks, permanently.

 

When the unequivocally disprove it, I hope the parents donations are lifted, and the parents prosecuted.  Otherwise the team should sue the ever living snot out of them, and at closing settle, laaaaast minute, for $1.  Textbook malicious slander IMO.  Part of me says take their house and 25% of parents income the rest of their lives if you can, but this isnt on the child, and in destroying the parents, she'd become collateral damage.... but drag them through the courts, push the story as hard as you can to dispel as much as possible.  Make the parents sweat it out.  Let them know you couldve took the house and a % of their paychecks forever... then last minute settle for $1

 

Also, permanent ban from the parents in the stadium (not that theyd care)

Blaming the victims, very nice.  Where is your evidence that this story is not true?  Point me to people saying they were witnesses and this family is making this up.

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Well what’s Dad gonna do, chase after the perpetrator down the slippery stairs in the upper deck, to then do what?  The police would have filed a report, but the family decided against that.  Maybe they just wanted to get home at that point and not have to deal with all of the follow-up, realizing their daughter luckily only had bruised ribs?

 

To the extent people decided to contribute to the GoFundMe, why do you care?  It’s their decision where they put their money.

Because its a manipulative money grab thats predicated on completely false claims, that tarnishing our 50+ years of sterling awesome fanship.  Tarnishes our entire city.

 

You might not care about that but i certainly do, and Id bet more people here care than don't.  The lie is our reputation in exchange for them stealing money.

I'm unwilling to pay it, and the parents should be publicly humiliated and proven as liars, liars for profit.

 

The headline might seem stupid to you, but I live out of NY.  People from here will ask me what I think about 8yr old cancerous children being pushed down the stairs for "wrong laundry".  Its already true in their heads.  So now I have to either eat it, or risk being the guy 'defending a child abuser' that doesnt exist.  You can be cool with it but you shouldnt.

 

My Asian immigrant in-laws will hear about this.  They've never been to a football game.  They dont know anything about my hometown.  The second thing they'll learn about Bills football is this crazy story, with the first being I love that team and those people.

 

It doesnt have to be that wild of a scenario for other Bills fans to deal with something similar.  It'll be new girls they try to date, co-workers, their grandparents, whatever.  It's the same thing as poor Browns fans landing Watson on their team, maybe worse.

[Goin Breakdown]

1 hour ago, Just Jack said:

 

 

Hey PeeWee showed up lookin for his BIIIIIIKE. Worked well for him. 

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Hey PeeWee showed up lookin for his BIIIIIIKE. Worked well for him. 

 

C'mon now, let's not pretend the tequila had nothing to do with it 

[Goin Breakdown]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

C'mon now, let's not pretend the tequila had nothing to do with it 

True enough hahaha

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, Motorin' said:

 

I know Hope Rises very well. And I don't think there's anything sullying their reputation by saying they're a media and fundraising organization. That's what they do, produce inspirational stories and raise money for people in need. 

 

I'm not suggesting that Hope Rises has done anything wrong. 

 

And I hear you about AB. But the reason he posted what he did is because the mom said an angry Bills fan deliberately pushed her daughter down the stairs. 

 

Then the dad gave a somewhat different and muddled explanation. 

 

So we have worldwide media posting headlines that a violent Bills fan throws 8 year old cancer survivor down stadium stairs. And a family that may have seen an opportunity to draw attention to their GoFundMe because of their connection to a highly respected outlet that hosted them at the game. 

 

I'm guessing the truth is somewhere between a violent assault and 100% fabricated grift. 

So a charity organization that works with trained professionals to generate large attention interests.

 

An angry parent (who maybe doesnt understand implications) wrote this out. Its been smelling like fish for 3 days, while the money piles up......

 

Where is Hope Rises to come in and fix the narrative with a controlled press release, doing damage control to not exploit a large NFL franchise for a misunderstanding at best, or heinous fabricated lie at worst.

 

******crickets from Hope Rises********

 

Sooooooo, this company is cool with trashing the fan base if it brings money in. Or theyre fine waiting a week of exposure, to theeeennnnn come in andcorrect the narrative, but not until the story starts to loose gas. Then they can juice it up with an apology for the "miscommunication", thats not a real apology, but just a way to juice up the 2nd wave of money.

 

Im sorry, but that feels like the tactic, and I am not cool with that.

[strive_for_five_guy]

12 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

12 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Because its a manipulative money grab thats predicated on completely false claims, that tarnishing our 50+ years of sterling awesome fanship.  Tarnishes our entire city.

 

You might not care about that but i certainly do, and Id bet more people here care than don't.  The lie is our reputation in exchange for them stealing money.

I'm unwilling to pay it, and the parents should be publicly humiliated and proven as liars, liars for profit.

 

The headline might seem stupid to you, but I live out of NY.  People from here will ask me what I think about 8yr old cancerous children being pushed down the stairs for "wrong laundry".  Its already true in their heads.  So now I have to either eat it, or risk being the guy 'defending a child abuser' that doesnt exist.  You can be cool with it but you shouldnt.

 

My Asian immigrant in-laws will hear about this.  They've never been to a football game.  They dont know anything about my hometown.  The second thing they'll learn about Bills football is this crazy story, with the first being I love that team and those people.

 

It doesnt have to be that wild of a scenario for other Bills fans to deal with something similar.  It'll be new girls they try to date, co-workers, their grandparents, whatever.  It's the same thing as poor Browns fans landing Watson on their team, maybe worse.

 

 

Blaming the victims, very nice.  Where is your evidence that this story is not true?  Point me to people saying they were witnesses and this family is making this up.

 

Rational and objective people will realize just because some drunk fan pushed over some little girl, it doesn’t mean that ALL Bills fans do that same.  If someone says something to you about it, you can agree and say “yea that was a really rude thing the drunk fan did”, as opposed to getting all defensive that it’s an indictment of the rest of us fans.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

It may have gotten lost in the thread, but I think it’s important to weigh this with the fact that dad is an effing MARINE!

 

A drunk guy had been hitting the family of a marine with snowballs. Then assaulted the young daughter of a marine. Then the marine just quietly packed up and went home.

 

 

 

This story gets worse and worse... if this really happened, and the guy responded with the most conservative reaction of publicly saying " Hey WTF, this guy just pushed my 8yr old down the stairs", then the crowd looks and shes laying upside down at bottom of stairwell...... the crowds reaction is "whoa, messed up" and goes back to watching game?

 

If this story was even 5% true, that guys rightfully on a ventilator and publicly fired from his job via a company tweet!

[Augie]

We don’t know what happened. I wish this story would just die. 

[Motorin']

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

We don’t know what happened. I wish this story would just die. 

 

No chance, the media is going to be all over this waiting for the happy ending followup https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10145850-bills-to-invite-8-year-old-cancer-survivor-who-was-pushed-down-stairs-to-future-game

[May Day 10]

'who was pushed down stairs'

 

great

 

 

So now they have added that the people behind them also announced that they were going to hit "niner fans" (I dont think we call them that in Buffalo) in the head with snow balls.

 

These people always seem to announce their crimes before they commit them.  It makes it look more believable.

Edited December 4 by May Day 10

[BillsShredder83]

28 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Blaming the victims, very nice.  Where is your evidence that this story is not true?  Point me to people saying they were witnesses and this family is making this up.

Thats not how it works.  These people are not victims.  Youre stan'ing for your emotional captor.  Couldn't be me.  Theres a camera in every pocket, 52k potential witnesses, TV cameras everywhere, security cameras to observe this exact thing.  Its been 3 days.  Did they double down or back down toning their version down?

 

They counted on people using emotion, first and only, to carry their story.  Not one person has corroborated the story.  A night when the spotlight of the whole country was in that building.

 

"Its easier to fool someone, than convince them theyve been fooled."