boyst Posted December 4 Posted December 4 Just now, strive_for_five_guy said: You seem to be skeptical of the incident and the family’s motives, in part because of what you claim is lack of police involvement. I agree the incident isn’t to the level of something extremely horrific, likely factoring into the family’s decision to not file a police report. I just don’t think the family is being devious with their intentions at all, and if people want to contribute to the girl’s GoFundMe, why is that so bad? I dont think they're being dishonest. The girl probably had cancer. But the whole police involvement tells me they're a little too soft to be going to night football game and would be better off a Panthers fan. Nothing ever happens at their games. 2 Quote
Gugny Posted December 4 Posted December 4 If the Bills win the Super Bowl this year, are we pushing this same girl down the stairs at every home game next year? Or do we pick a different kid every week? 10 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted December 4 Posted December 4 9 minutes ago, Motorin' said: For sure could be. It's just the details being communicated has changed several times, combined with the fact that the family was at the game as guests of a media / fundraising organization... For me it goes to, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I've looked into it, and Hope Rises is a legit nonprofit with very high % of their funds going to the people they support. So calling it a media/fundraising organization kind of mis-represents it a bit, IMO It is true the founder is a reporter, and that if they didn't have that connection their story might not have gained so much traction. I don't think the family is making extraordinary claims. I think that's AB with the "fan threw little girl down the stairs" tweet is the extraordinary claim, but they can hardly control AB when coaches and football organizations failed to be able to do so. 2 Quote
Bruffalo Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) 2 minutes ago, boyst said: would be better off a Panthers fan. Nothing ever happens at their games. Geeze, she already had cancer, hasn't she suffered enough? Edited December 4 by Bruffalo 6 Quote
Beck Water Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) 12 minutes ago, boyst said: I dont think they're being dishonest. The girl probably had cancer. But the whole police involvement tells me they're a little too soft to be going to night football game and would be better off a Panthers fan. Nothing ever happens at their games. Geez, fans really ought to be able to attend a freakin' football game without passing the He-Man Test of Carolina Boyst Tough Guy I personally think the Bills/Stadium bear a lot of culpability for apparently not modernizing their snow removal (if it's still largely done by hand and not with the snow blowers Green Bay uses), thus leaving the stairs so slick it's easy to fall. They really need to do better. I may write them a Carefully Worded Letter about this. PS you can ditch the "probably". Edited December 4 by Beck Water 1 1 Quote
Just Jack Posted December 4 Posted December 4 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: If the Bills win the Super Bowl this year, are we pushing this same girl down the stairs at every home game next year? Or do we pick a different kid every week? Different kid, like they used to do the Kickoff Kid who would run out and grab the tee after kickoff. It could be the "Game Day Kid Down The Stairs" contest, and parents could submit video of them pushing their kid down a flight of stairs to participate. 2 Quote
Beck Water Posted December 4 Posted December 4 41 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: She didnt bruise her ribs. Has anyone bruised their ribs? I have. It is horribly painful and you cant even take in a full breath. There would be medical attention. Also the news interview I saw yesterday morning, they said she was perfectly fine with no injuries. No mention of snowballs that time either. That detail was added later in the day. There's bruising, then there's bruising. 1 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted December 4 Posted December 4 6 minutes ago, Gugny said: If the Bills win the Super Bowl this year, are we pushing this same girl down the stairs at every home game next year? Or do we pick a different kid every week? I'll nominate my nephew, he's a real pain in the ass. 4 Quote
Motorin' Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I've looked into it, and Hope Rises is a legit nonprofit with very high % of their funds going to the people they support. So calling it a media/fundraising organization kind of mis-represents it a bit, IMO It is true the founder is a reporter, and that if they didn't have that connection their story might not have gained so much traction. I don't think the family is making extraordinary claims. I think that's AB with the "fan threw little girl down the stairs" tweet is the extraordinary claim, but they can hardly control AB when coaches and football organizations failed to be able to do so. I know Hope Rises very well. And I don't think there's anything sullying their reputation by saying they're a media and fundraising organization. That's what they do, produce inspirational stories and raise money for people in need. I'm not suggesting that Hope Rises has done anything wrong. And I hear you about AB. But the reason he posted what he did is because the mom said an angry Bills fan deliberately pushed her daughter down the stairs. Then the dad gave a somewhat different and muddled explanation. So we have worldwide media posting headlines that a violent Bills fan throws 8 year old cancer survivor down stadium stairs. And a family that may have seen an opportunity to draw attention to their GoFundMe because of their connection to a highly respected outlet that hosted them at the game. I'm guessing the truth is somewhere between a violent assault and 100% fabricated grift. Edited December 4 by Motorin' 2 Quote
Beck Water Posted December 4 Posted December 4 8 minutes ago, Just Jack said: Different kid, like they used to do the Kickoff Kid who would run out and grab the tee after kickoff. It could be the "Game Day Kid Down The Stairs" contest, and parents could submit video of them pushing their kid down a flight of stairs to participate. The thing about Bills mafia is, you know if we felt that would bring us victory, parents and kids would line up to be chosen. 1 1 Quote
boyst Posted December 4 Posted December 4 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Geez, fans really ought to be able to attend a freakin' football game without passing the He-Man Test of Carolina Boyst Tough Guy I personally think the Bills/Stadium bear a lot of culpability for apparently not modernizing their snow removal (if it's still largely done by hand and not with the snow blowers Green Bay uses), thus leaving the stairs so slick it's easy to fall. They really need to do better. I may write them a Carefully Worded Letter about this. PS you can ditch the "probably". Oh 100%. That's a different conversation imo. But it's also knowing what you're going into. Bills fans are famous for their energy and you're bringing a child to this environment being a fan and wearing the gear of the opposite team. I won't even bring my stepson up yet and he is almost 10 and a Bills fan. I guess there needs to be some responsibility here for those who bring kids to a game... At night... As an opposing fan. That said, I am taking him to the Panthers game next year. 🤣 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted December 4 Posted December 4 37 minutes ago, Beck Water said: It's the Mom. Her name is apparently Mikey Sherry (or she used both her and her husband's name to create the account, but it's pretty clear it's the mom posting. KAREN alert. She definitely wants to speak to the manager. Sorry, this smells like overreactive nonsense. 1 Quote
RkFast Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) Im not going to condone any bad behavior here....but you go to a night football game in bad weather and sit in the upper deck wearing opposing teams colors and youre shocked(!!) at rowdy crowd behaviour? What's your encore, lady? Dropping by the Hell's Angels clubhouse on a Saturday evening riding a Honda? Edited December 4 by RkFast 1 Quote
May Day 10 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Motorin' said: I know Hope Rises very well. And I don't think there's anything sullying their reputation by saying they're a media and fundraising organization. That's what they do, produce inspirational stories and raise money for people in need. I'm not suggesting that Hope Rises has done anything wrong. And I hear you about AB. But the reason he posted what he did is because the mom said an angry Bills fan deliberately pushed her daughter down the stairs. Then the dad gave a somewhat different and muddled explanation. So we have worldwide media posting headlines that a violent Bills fan throws 8 year old cancer survivor down stadium stairs. And a family that may have seen an opportunity to draw attention to their GoFundMe because of their connection to a highly respected outlet that hosted them at the game. I'm guessing the truth is somewhere between a violent assault and 100% fabricated grift. What i suspect, is that this family got there and realized they had bit off way more than they could chew. Noise, weather, foul language, Buffalo killing the 49ers, lack of personal space, etc. They were leaving early and probably were bumped into. Most likely an accident as it was slippery as hell. Mom posts on social media, kind of venting on bills fans and exaggerates the bump as "pushed down stairs section 312". Looking for sympathy and likes. This got legs and traction as it's extreme. People who want confirmation bias seized on painting the atmosphere are a lawless ***** and Bills fans as halitosis smelling drunken lowlifes. The family got attention and donations, and it was too late to walk back the exaggerated assault, which was discoverably false. The version changed to something closer to reality, but to prove it was intentional, they added the details that this person announced he was going to push them before attacking their daughter who just went into her seat. Then they added the snowball detail for further effect. They kind of got caught in a lie. Edited December 4 by May Day 10 1 3 Quote
Big Turk Posted December 4 Posted December 4 Brown should probably stay in his lane with the number of crazy things he has done. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 On 12/2/2024 at 2:52 PM, DrDawkinstein said: It's AB. Nothing he says is true. Except this: Ppl throw this around willy nilly, but in the most literal sense, this is the single greatest tweet of all time lol been there 1 1 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 4 Posted December 4 27 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I disagree with it being a money grab. The GoFundMe has been there for more than a year, and the girl/family are evidently known to a respected reporter and founder of a legit nonprofit Hope Rises. I think the family legit had a bad time after trying to give their 49ers fan daughter a "bucket list" experience, and are upset about that. We have no way of knowing how slight a bump it was. It could have been a bump that was deliberate and harder than it needed to be because the guy is a jerk. But, at a crowded event where the stairs are "fall on your ass" slick without any bumps needed, that doesn't amount to assault charges either. Their story has changed a bunch. It’s gotten milder and milder as time goes on. The go fund me wasn’t doing great before this. They know the fan base will donate at drop of a hat. They went right to the reporter. Idk about you but that sounds like a money grab to me. 1 Quote
Mango Posted December 4 Posted December 4 3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I totally agree there’s people bad enough at every nfl game to elbow their way through a family and buffalo is no different but this particular story just doesn’t add up for me still idk who hears a drunk guy that has been supposedly assaulting you with snowballs all game say ‘I’m gonna shove my way through those niners fans’ and doesn’t immediately attempt to get his young child out of the way it is just straight up bizarre. It would make a lot more sense to me if they didn’t hear the guy talking about what he was gonna do and he just came out of nowhere. I am pretty convinced the family was intentionally letting this guy by and he lost his balance and bumped the girl into a chair It may have gotten lost in the thread, but I think it’s important to weigh this with the fact that dad is an effing MARINE! A drunk guy had been hitting the family of a marine with snowballs. Then assaulted the young daughter of a marine. Then the marine just quietly packed up and went home. 1 Quote
zow2 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 32 minutes ago, Gugny said: If the Bills win the Super Bowl this year, are we pushing this same girl down the stairs at every home game next year? Or do we pick a different kid every week? Different kid, but only if she has cancer or some other horribly debilitating childhood illness., because according to the country that's what Bills Mafia is all about. 🙄 Quote
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