Antonio Brown says a little girl thrown down stairs at Bills??

[plenzmd1]

2 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

I remember when far more news outlets ran with the story about the MAGA kids surrounding the native American... And who could forget Jussie Smollett?

 

Headlines don't provide evidence of truth. Evidence does. 

And not one person, not a single one has corroborated any of this.

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

 

I just assumed it was the mom.  Sounds like mom-speak, seeing dozens of moms spamming FB every day.  Exclamation points, emoji use.  Dads dont got time for that. Also the selfie.

No mention of the snowball detail... which is now the most serious detail that apparently forced them to leave.

 

It's the Mom.  Her name is apparently Mikey Sherry (or she used both her and her husband's name to create the account, but it's pretty clear it's the mom posting.

[May Day 10]

She didnt bruise her ribs.

 

Has anyone bruised their ribs?  I have.  It is horribly painful and you cant even take in a full breath.  There would be medical attention.

 

Also the news interview I saw yesterday morning, they said she was perfectly fine with no injuries.  No mention of snowballs that time either.  That detail was added later in the day.

[strive_for_five_guy]

6 minutes ago, boyst said:

I'm gonna be that guy to say this just has stinks all over it. I'm sure some fan was obnoxious at a football game, I'm sure some fan was shoulder to shoulder with everyone else and may have bumped others trying to get out of the stands. We have all seen that. Maybe. The guy had been drinking, maybe the guy was a little rough or too far with his haste to leave and bumped a small child who slipped. 

 

But, the dad didn't do anything (either because he's weak or it wasn't justified) but the fans around didn't either. And the police didn't. I've been to games where I've seen fights happen and the fans 100% stopped it. From a playoff game in Houston where the perp was run down and tackled to a Bills game where a guy was driving recklessly and when he came to stop ripped from his car and beaten up with keys in car and police alerted. 

 

This just seems too f'n weird. In a world where people use their children for fame, women post breast feeding videos to promote their OF, where all sorts of shameless acts occur i can easily imagine the mother posting something exaggerating the situation not realizing (or maybe realizing) that it would blow up and now is cashing in on it.

 

Hell, the Buffalo Bills just said they will help the girl out. So, she's gonna get $$$$$ on godundme which all goes to her parents and then so much more.

 

Just don't like this. Don't believe this one face value. There would be a whole lot more to this, including video, if it went down like this. 

Well what’s Dad gonna do, chase after the perpetrator down the slippery stairs in the upper deck, to then do what?  The police would have filed a report, but the family decided against that.  Maybe they just wanted to get home at that point and not have to deal with all of the follow-up, realizing their daughter luckily only had bruised ribs?

 

To the extent people decided to contribute to the GoFundMe, why do you care?  It’s their decision where they put their money.

[Motorin']

6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

And not one person, not a single one has corroborated any of this.

 

And the specific details have been told is four different ways. 

 

First the mom, a Bills fan passed her and her husband then he pushed the daughter down the stairs in section 321.

 

Then the dad, a guy pushed her out of her seat. Then again, he said the guy pushed her into a seat. 

 

Then the daughter said they were leaving and a guy pushed and she fell into a 49ers chair. 

 

Was she in the aisle or on the stairs? What's a 49ers chair? Someone brought their own chair and had it setup on the stairs or in the snow covered row of seats?

 

 

Edited December 4 by Motorin'

[Sierra Foothills]

13 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

Cancer treatment is awful with thousands of dollars of deductables and expenses even good insurance won't cover

So I have nothing against a family getting some $$ to help them with their battle

But her Gofundme has gotten pretty plump from the incident.  
 

 

 

It's a community mea culpa for the bad behavior of one of our own.

 

And it's voluntary.

 

[boyst]

10 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Well what’s Dad gonna do, chase after the perpetrator down the slippery stairs in the upper deck, to then do what?  The police would have filed a report, but the family decided against that.  Maybe they just wanted to get home at that point and not have to deal with all of the follow-up, realizing their daughter luckily only had bruised ribs?

 

To the extent people decided to contribute to the GoFundMe, why do you care?  It’s their decision where they put their money.

The police will file a report for anything. lol. That's moot. 

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, boyst said:

The police will file a report for anything. lol. That's moot. 

 

But the point is the mom's initial post said they had to get the police involved. If they did, where's the police report of the assault?

[Beck Water]

8 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

It's a community mea culpa for the bad behavior of one of our own.

 

And it's voluntary.

 

 

Did I speak to the contrary?

 

But I would like to point out there are different ways to show that which are less susceptible to being abused. 

For example, one could donate to Oshei in her name, or send a note or a card wishing her healing and health to Hope Rises in her name

I personally think this story is legit that she has cancer  and the family will use the money to defray medical costs and bills, but the potential for someone to create a story around a go-fund-me and not be legit is certainly there; sadly, it has happened

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

4 hours ago, todd said:

I can't believe people here are making excuses for this behavior. It sucks, and one of the reasons I don't attend too many games in-person. Lots of bad experiences from both Bills and non-Bills fans over the years. I probably attend only one game per year.

 

There's no reason to be so wasted you ruin everyone else's good time. Bills fans are better than this, and if you aren't better than this then you can screw off. Seriously, go to hell. Behave honorably, even when drunk. 

 

And being a survivor myself, it makes me mad when something like this happens to someone who has fought a battle nobody can really understand until you have to do it yourself. Especially someone so young. You never know what the person next to you is going through / has gone through. 

 

So now there will be responses to this accusing this post being a "holier than thou" post. Go ahead. I have no problem adding to my "I don't want to see idiots on TBD" list so I don't see your crap.

Making excuses for walking around someone, slightly bumping into someone and that person falling into their seat? God forbid someone slightly brushes into someone at a crowded event. Stop thinking with emotion and use logic. Their story has changed a bunch and thus screams money grab 

[boyst]

Just now, Motorin' said:

 

But the point is the mom's initial post said they had to get the police involved. If they did, where's the police report of the assault?

What does getting police involved mean? "Officer, we were in a crowded place with lots of people at a sports event where it was cold and people want to go home and one of them was in a hurry who was probably drinking pushed past my daughter and she "almost slipped and fell" but hit her ribs."

 

What are the police supposed to do? It was an accident by a guy being a jerk because he was in a hurry, allegedly.

[Beck Water]

8 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

But the point is the mom's initial post said they had to get the police involved. If they did, where's the police report of the assault?

 

If I were guessing....I would guess that the family filed a police report, but police told the family that after review of the video, it didn't appear that there was enough evidence to support charges since the stairs were so slippery people were falling without any pushes, all night.

[boyst]

1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Making excuses for walking around someone, slightly bumping into someone and that person falling into their seat? God forbid someone slightly brushes into someone at a crowded event. Stop thinking with emotion and use logic. Their story has changed a bunch and thus screams money grab 

Imagine half this group in here in a mosh pit. There would be lawsuits, GoFundMes, tears....

[SUNTANBILLS FAN]

Meanwhile the mafia has donated a ton more money to CMC

[boyst]

Just now, SUNTANBILLS FAN said:

Meanwhile the mafia has donated a ton more money to CMC

********To his charity.

[Beck Water]

9 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Making excuses for walking around someone, slightly bumping into someone and that person falling into their seat? God forbid someone slightly brushes into someone at a crowded event. Stop thinking with emotion and use logic. Their story has changed a bunch and thus screams money grab 

 

I disagree with it being a money grab.  The GoFundMe has been there for more than a year, and the girl/family are evidently known to a respected reporter and founder of a legit nonprofit Hope Rises.  I think the family legit had a bad time after trying to give their 49ers fan daughter a "bucket list" experience, and are upset about that.

 

We have no way of knowing how slight a bump it was.  It could have been a bump that was deliberate and harder than it needed to be because the guy is a jerk.

 

But, at a crowded event where the stairs are "fall on your ass" slick without any bumps needed, that doesn't amount to assault charges either.

[Motorin']

5 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

If I were guessing....I would guess that the family filed a police report, but police told the family that after review of the video, it didn't appear that there was enough evidence to support charges since the stairs were so slippery people were falling without any pushes, all night.

 

For sure could be. It's just the details being communicated has changed several times, combined with the fact that the family was at the game as guests of a media / fundraising organization... For me it goes to, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. 

 

 

Edited December 4 by Motorin'

[Beck Water]

12 minutes ago, boyst said:

Imagine half this group in here in a mosh pit. There would be lawsuits, GoFundMes, tears....

 

Now that would be too far. 

I can understand the family of a girl who has battled cancer, relapsed, and battled again going for a chance to see their favorite team play close to home, even though it's a school night and the weather sucks, because when you're in those shoes, you just don't know if you'll be able to do it next year or next decade.

 

But if they take her to a mosh pit I'm Done with them.

[boyst]

27 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

And not one person, not a single one has corroborated any of this.

How'd you get here?  

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

Now that would be too far. 

I can understand the family of a girl who has battled cancer, relapsed, and battled again going for a chance to see their favorite team play close to home, even though it's a school night and the weather sucks, because when you're in those shoes, you just don't know if you'll be able to do it next year or next decade.

 

But if they take her to a mosh pit I'm Done with them.

Went to see Korn a few months ago. The mosh pit of mid 30 to 40 yr olds was about the funniest thing I ever saw. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

10 minutes ago, boyst said:

The police will file a report for anything. lol. That's moot. 

You seem to be skeptical of the incident and the family’s motives, in part because of what you claim is lack of police involvement.  I agree the incident isn’t to the level of something extremely horrific, likely factoring into the family’s decision to not file a police report.  I just don’t think the family is being devious with their intentions at all, and if people want to contribute to the girl’s GoFundMe, why is that so bad?