DrDawkinstein Posted December 2 Posted December 2 3 minutes ago, Motorin' said: The mom says that a Bills fan passed them. So they were leaving, walking up the stairs and a Bills fans passed them coming down? No idea who was going in which direction, or even if they were just standing there. But yeah, pretty much, just a passing bump. It happens. Quote
May Day 10 Posted December 2 Posted December 2 She does say "push" a few times, and someone pushed her daughter down the stairs. Purposely pushing and slipping into are much different, as is bumping into (we always should be mindful of children in our areas). Those stairs were really bad last night, almost as bad as that Pittsburgh game. I was pretty sober, and I slipped down, but caught myself (partially using a big fella standing at the end of a row to save me). Quote
Beck Water Posted December 2 Posted December 2 1 hour ago, zow2 said: He probably should have linked the original post from someone named @KateGIaser I first saw this on the KC Chiefs board because they are obliterating Bills fans as scum of the earth. Originally i thought this was a fake troll thing to get Bills haters even more pissed at the fan base, but maybe it's real. I don't know. But I do know we are a good fan base and not a bunch of jerks to opposing fans. As a group we would collectively deliver a beat down to anyone that would mess with that little girl...on purpose or by accident because of being wasted. I did a little digging. Kate Glaser says she is an "award winning journalist" and works with an organization called "Hope Rises" ( hoperisesnews.com ). She is followed by several Buffalo Bills journalists (Alaina Getzenberg, Matt Parrino, Sal Cappaccio, Matt Bove', Joe Buscaglia) who don't generally follow everyone and his cat, so the "journalist" thing has some cred. She has a year-old post on her twitter about getting a surprise visit from Josh Allen to kids at her organization. She has a LinkedIn where she posted about Thurman Thomas and Patty Thomas hosting a young man her organization helped to buy a lawnmower for his business. This is said to be the girl in question, and Kate Glaser says she spoke to the girl's mom. https://www.gofundme.com/f/decamilla-family-fund?mibextid=Zxz2cZ So I think this actually may have happened, sad to say. 3 Quote
May Day 10 Posted December 2 Posted December 2 What the girl's mom says though could be/seems to be embellished. "Kate Glaser" has no way of knowing 2 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted December 2 Posted December 2 29 minutes ago, entropyrules said: Philadelphia? I was actually going to mention Oakland if the Raiders were still there since that's about as close to Mad Max as you can get in a stadium. Quote
Augie Posted December 2 Posted December 2 7 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: It sounds like Mommy was upset. She might be the least objective person present. I can’t have a strong opinion without knowing what really happened, but I very seriously doubt there was any intent whatsoever to push a child down steps. Might someone have had too much to drink? Of course, but I still don’t know what really happened and I don’t fully trust this 49er fan’s account. 2 3 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted December 2 Posted December 2 Just now, Beck Water said: I did a little digging. Kate Glaser says she is an "award winning journalist" and works with an organization called "Hope Rises" ( hoperisesnews.com ). She is followed by several Buffalo Bills journalists (Alaina Getzenberg, Matt Parrino, Sal Cappaccio, Matt Bove', Joe Buscaglia) who don't generally follow everyone and his cat, so the "journalist" thing has some cred. She has a year-old post on her twitter about getting a surprise visit from Josh Allen to kids at her organization. She has a LinkedIn where she posted about Thurman Thomas and Patty Thomas hosting a young man her organization helped to buy a lawnmower for his business. This is said to be the girl in question, and Kate Glaser says she spoke to the girl's mom. https://www.gofundme.com/f/decamilla-family-fund?mibextid=Zxz2cZ So I think this actually may have happened, sad to say. No one is doubting "something" happened. It's just a matter of to what extent. Really sounds like they just got bumped on the stairs and the kid slipped. Not great, but nothing horrible or targeted. Certainly not "thrown" down the stairs, or shoved. I think it's a bit of over-protective parents over-reacting. In similar situations, I make sure our daughter walks between my wife and I so if she does slip one way or the other, one of us can catch her. 1 1 2 Quote
Kmart128 Posted December 2 Posted December 2 14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I can believe that. Still isnt anywhere close to the story that some crazed Bills fan went after her to throw her down the stairs. People get bumped. Especially when the aisles are already clogged with snow, and folks are thicker than usual with winter layers. Unfortunate, but has nothing to do with bad Bills fans. Yeah my exact thoughts... with the snow I'm sure that it was way more crowded than it should have been and someone accidentally bumped into their daughter Quote
SF Bills Fan Posted December 2 Posted December 2 43 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: I can believe both because people in general have the capacity for reprehensible behavior but tend to agree with you if only because if that happened a couple of other things would have happened. 1. the girl would hurt. 2. there would be a police report. 3. there would have been a huge fight involving other people that witnessed it including the girls parents. Given the conditions it's much more likely someone slipped on the stairs, that person was over served, the girl fell maybe a step or two into a bunch of other people. Throwing someone down stairs implies an overt act that would have gotten attention. Agree- if it happened at all it was a drunk person slipping. 100% correct on the fight- there would be people up in arms if it happened and it would be all over the news. Quote
Motorin' Posted December 2 Posted December 2 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: I did a little digging. Kate Glaser says she is an "award winning journalist" and works with an organization called "Hope Rises" ( hoperisesnews.com ). She is followed by several Buffalo Bills journalists (Alaina Getzenberg, Matt Parrino, Sal Cappaccio, Matt Bove', Joe Buscaglia) who don't generally follow everyone and his cat, so the "journalist" thing has some cred. She has a year-old post on her twitter about getting a surprise visit from Josh Allen to kids at her organization. She has a LinkedIn where she posted about Thurman Thomas and Patty Thomas hosting a young man her organization helped to buy a lawnmower for his business. This is said to be the girl in question, and Kate Glaser says she spoke to the girl's mom. https://www.gofundme.com/f/decamilla-family-fund?mibextid=Zxz2cZ So I think this actually may have happened, sad to say. The mom is saying it happened. But not sure if what she said adds up. Quote
Beck Water Posted December 2 Posted December 2 58 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: If this person does start a go fund me over this would explain the rationale for this , most likely, manufactured story. An adorable young innocent girl with cancer being brutalized by crazed Bill fans, yeah sure. I don't know about the deliberate push vs accidental bump, but there's an article about parents shaving their head to support their cancer patient kids which mentions Mia DeCamilla in 2023. https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/parents-of-childhood-cancer-patients-shave-their-heads-in-support-of-their-childrens-fearless-fight Her Gofundme appears to date from May of 2023. So the story of the cancer seems legit and the GoFundMe was not organized recently to harvest Bills fans generosity. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted December 2 Posted December 2 The most unfortunate part, as details come to light, is that this likely isnt enough to win her Cracker of the Year. 10 Quote
Beck Water Posted December 2 Posted December 2 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Motorin' said: The mom is saying it happened. But not sure if what she said adds up. I didn't find the mom's actual account of what happened, can you share? Edit: OK, found account above, and "drunk Bills fan decided to pass my husband and I and thought it was cool to push our daughter" sounds more like bad judgement/incidental contact that had an outsize impact because of the conditions. Edited December 2 by Beck Water 1 Quote
Motorin' Posted December 2 Posted December 2 2 minutes ago, Augie said: It sounds like Mommy was upset. She might be the least objective person present. I can’t have a strong opinion without knowing what really happened, but I very seriously doubt there was any intent whatsoever to push a child down steps. Might someone have had too much to drink? Of course, but I still don’t know what really happened and I don’t fully trust this 49er fan’s account. It looks like the family lives in the Rochester area. There was also a Go Fund Me active prior to going to the game with her daughter and making her daughter hold it up so she could put it on social media. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted December 2 Posted December 2 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: I didn't find the mom's actual account of what happened, can you share? VVVVV 21 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: 1 Quote
Motorin' Posted December 2 Posted December 2 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: I didn't find the mom's actual account of what happened, can you share? https://www.facebook.com/share/p/pnhMCKwdChmt9CA5/ Quote
Big Turk Posted December 2 Posted December 2 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: No one is doubting "something" happened. It's just a matter of to what extent. Really sounds like they just got bumped on the stairs and the kid slipped. Not great, but nothing horrible or targeted. Certainly not "thrown" down the stairs, or shoved. I think it's a bit of over-protective parents over-reacting. In similar situations, I make sure our daughter walks between my wife and I so if she does slip one way or the other, one of us can catch her. sounds like a Karen. 1 1 Quote
May Day 10 Posted December 2 Posted December 2 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: I don't know about the deliberate push vs accidental bump, but there's an article about parents shaving their head to support their cancer patient kids which mentions Mia DeCamilla in 2023. https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/parents-of-childhood-cancer-patients-shave-their-heads-in-support-of-their-childrens-fearless-fight Her Gofundme appears to date from May of 2023. So the story of the cancer seems legit and the GoFundMe was not organized recently to harvest Bills fans generosity. I believe these people are real, attended a/the Bills game last night, and also, thank god, Mia D is a cancer survivor. But the idea that someone purposely threw Mia down the stairs in the upper deck does not make sense. 1 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted December 2 Posted December 2 35 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I cant wait until this story is proven false. Then I get the perfect cover to start actually pushing kids down the stairs at games and no one will believe them. You could push one down at each of the 30 NFL stadiums ... NY and LA twice each. 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted December 2 Posted December 2 8 minutes ago, Big Turk said: sounds like a Karen. You know, if I had a daughter who had been battling cancer for close to 3 years, had a relapse in May 2023, and is now cancer free again, I would be "overprotective" at the "Death Star" level. You could call that being a Karen if you like, you say Karen, I just say "Mother". 2 2 1 Quote
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