B-Man Posted December 2 Posted December 2 Biden Pardons Hunter on All Charges and Anything Else He Might Have Committed Since 2014 by Mary Chastain President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter despite the White House saying over and over he would not do it. The pardon includes charges Hunter faced or might have faced from January 1, 2014, through December 1, 2024. Yes, ten years. Absolute insanity. That means anything else that pops up in that time period doesn’t count. Hunter cannot face any charges. Hunter pleaded guilty to tax evasion. He was going to face sentencing on December 16 for lying on a federal form by saying he was not using drugs or addicted to drugs when trying to buy a gun. https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/12/biden-pardons-hunter-biden/
B-Man Posted December 2 Posted December 2 Democrats need to figure out if they ought to trash Biden for pardoning Hunter and build the strongest foundation for attacking Trump over the pardoning spree he's about to launch. Yes, yes, of course, you Democrats can pose fussily and piously making distinctions between all the crimes Hunter may have done in the last 10 years and anything attributable to Trump's pardonees. Go ahead. Try. I see your efforts. They're so self-serving they underscore the essential problem: political favoritism. Fine distinctions are confusing and hypocritical. You're going to say violating gun laws doesn't really matter? Then how are you going to pull off the call for more gun laws, which you know you're going to need for your usual political theater on the occasion of the next massacre? You're going to say a rich man's tax evasion is a measly offense and still hope to see us to respond to your cries for severe taxing of the rich? No, no, your best move is to trash Biden. You already kicked him to the curb last July. No one remembers the show of honoring his statesmanship you staged at the Democratic National Convention. You've already lost the election and suffered a complete breakdown of confidence in your party. You need to rebuild the foundation. There's nothing to keep. Your party is a teardown. Trump is about to take over and make a show out of throwing light on the deep state. Don't condemn yourself to defending every awful thing that may come out — which may include corrupt dealings with Ukraine and China that were blithely swept into Biden's pardon of Hunter. Trash Joe Biden now to position yourself to seem to welcome all this forthcoming bad news and to offer yourself as the staunch new party of reform. Posted by Ann Althouse https://althouse.blogspot.com/2024/12/democrats-need-to-figure-out-if-they.html 1
T master Posted December 2 Posted December 2 (edited) 11 hours ago, 4th&long said: The same can be said in reverse. Biden knows trump will pardon the 1/6 criminals so he might as well pardon his son. The bottom line is politics is full corruption and there is no such thing as justice. The only difference is like the lie he told about the covid vaccine he told EVERYBODY - he did tell everyone that he "Would Not Pardon His Son" and of course in part he did so so there can be no more investigation into the computer . And this isn't because he was misinformed as ya'll put it with the vaccine thing he just lied !!! So he's not only lied and did a 180 but he also did it to cover his own ass because if he let it go and there would be more investigations surrounding Hunter it could bring Joe as the central figure in the investigation once they dug into it deeper and find out he was giving favors to a communist country . Joe just continues to prove what a life long, career politician does LIE, LIE, LIE, until i retire ... He's a lying POS !!!! But as usual it's all deflected with 1 sentence - He's only as bad as Trump . WTFE !!! But if the total truth was to be known to the public Would He ??? Edited December 2 by T master 1
stevestojan Posted December 2 Posted December 2 34 minutes ago, Westside said: He’s way worse than Trump! Always has been. Unfortunately, your terminal case of TDS would never let you admit it. Jesus Christ with you weirdos. Because i said he’s as bad and not worse than your deity, i have TDS. ***** weird. Biden sucks! Trump sucks! Sorry I didn’t score them for you. 1
B-Man Posted December 2 Posted December 2 Back to the thread. . . . . . . "President Biden and President-elect Donald J. Trump now agree on one thing: The Biden Justice Department has been politicized." Thanks to the NYT for stating the obvious point obviously. The article, by Peter Baker, is "In Pardoning His Son, Biden Echoes Some of Trump’s Complaints/President Biden complained about selective prosecution and political pressure in a system he has spent his public life defending." https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/01/us/politics/biden-hunter-pardon-politics.html?smid=url-share . 1
boyst Posted December 2 Posted December 2 54 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: not if he doesn't remember. lol people forget how that works. it's a dream world where hunter will ever take the stand and incriminate anyone.
Irv Posted December 2 Posted December 2 (edited) What did you expect from Demented Biden? He probably doesn't even know he pardoned Hunter. Obammy told him to do it. What a mess. Edited December 2 by Irv
BillsFanNC Posted December 2 Posted December 2 38 minutes ago, boyst said: not if he doesn't remember. lol people forget how that works. it's a dream world where hunter will ever take the stand and incriminate anyone. Right. But he still has to sit there and answer specific questions about Biden family corruption. "I don't recall" on auto repeat is only, to sane people, an admission of guilt. He will not be permitted to invoke the 5th.
boyst Posted December 2 Posted December 2 Just now, BillsFanNC said: Right. But he still has to sit there and answer specific questions about Biden family corruption. "I don't recall" on auto repeat is only, to sane people, an admission of guilt. He will not be permitted to invoke the 5th. But,.if.....if! IF! he gets to the stand it'll be like the godfather 2. He can say he knows nothing and take credit for enough since he is off the hook.
BillsFanNC Posted December 2 Posted December 2 Just now, boyst said: But,.if.....if! IF! he gets to the stand it'll be like the godfather 2. He can say he knows nothing and take credit for enough since he is off the hook. Does the pardon cover him for future perjury?
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 2 Posted December 2 1 hour ago, stevestojan said: Well, I - or anyone else - can not say a word about Trump’s upcoming pardons of the January sixth dimwits. They both suck. Both sides. And this pardon - after dozens of claims that he would never do it - reduces Biden to the level of Trump. Gross abuse of power, Joe, made worse by the endless lying about it. Good to have you on board, though it's kind of odd that it took this scenario--so incredibly predictable--to get you here. There's 5 decades of data on Biden's dishonest and sketchy behavior, and of all the things he's done, this is the most understandable. I really find it kind of hard to believe you (or anyone) really thought it was going any other way than as follows: Harris wins, she pardons HB, everything goes away; Trump wins, JB pardons him; As for 1/6 defendants, I'm torn on that. I'd hope that pardon(s) or commutation(s) are limited to those who were overcharged or treated unduly harshly (for example, one guy sentenced to three years in jail for trespass and smoking weed in one of the offices. For those that were violent, assaulted the police etc, they should do their time. Bottom line--what I would like to see is transparency on the Biden files. If there were crimes committed by family members, pursue them. If there was aberrant behavior that cannot be prosecuted, release the files documenting the behavior. 1
BillsFanNC Posted December 2 Posted December 2 Meanwhile there are still J6 defendants being overcharged and pursued by this corrupt DOJ. 1
boyst Posted December 2 Posted December 2 7 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Does the pardon cover him for future perjury? how can you prove he lied about it when he was the one who thought he was in charge?
Artful Dodger Posted December 2 Posted December 2 In Biden's defense, he's probably forgotten that he promised not to pardon his kid.
BillsFanNC Posted December 2 Posted December 2 5 minutes ago, boyst said: how can you prove he lied about it when he was the one who thought he was in charge? Easy. Use the same tactics and rules the DOJ used to target General Flynn. But focusing on Hunter going to jail shouldn't be the issue. Making Hunter specifically face justice really doesn't matter as long as the truth is made transparent on what the Biden crime family, with 'the big guy' at the helm, were really up to. Employ the dead chicken strategy for all in the corrupt uniparty who used lawfare. Make them taste it. They won't like it one bit. If you make them taste it enough maybe they'll be reluctant to go down this road again. 1
boyst Posted December 2 Posted December 2 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Easy. Use the same tactics and rules the DOJ used to target General Flynn. But focusing on Hunter going to jail shouldn't be the issue. Making Hunter specifically face justice really doesn't matter as long as the truth is made transparent on what the Biden crime family, with 'the big guy' at the helm, were really up to. Employ the dead chicken strategy for all in the corrupt uniparty who used lawfare. Make them taste it. They won't like it one bit. If you make them taste it enough maybe they'll be reluctant to go down this road again. Nobody truly cares about the whole justice thing. Sure, right now it is neat, but in 2 yrs when it's finally brought up in front of us Joe will probably be too far gone or already dead. Hunter will be left unprotected and deadbeat/lost/worthless/high/dead.
JFKjr Posted December 2 Posted December 2 30 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Good to have you on board, though it's kind of odd that it took this scenario--so incredibly predictable--to get you here. There's 5 decades of data on Biden's dishonest and sketchy behavior, and of all the things he's done, this is the most understandable. I really find it kind of hard to believe you (or anyone) really thought it was going any other way than as follows: Harris wins, she pardons HB, everything goes away; Trump wins, JB pardons him; As for 1/6 defendants, I'm torn on that. I'd hope that pardon(s) or commutation(s) are limited to those who were overcharged or treated unduly harshly (for example, one guy sentenced to three years in jail for trespass and smoking weed in one of the offices. For those that were violent, assaulted the police etc, they should do their time. Bottom line--what I would like to see is transparency on the Biden files. If there were crimes committed by family members, pursue them. If there was aberrant behavior that cannot be prosecuted, release the files documenting the behavior. I doubt there is any J6 participant whose crimes rise to the level of (the totality) of Hunter Biden's crimes since 2014. Might as well pardon them all and call it a decade.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 2 Posted December 2 4 minutes ago, JFKjr said: I doubt there is any J6 participant whose crimes rise to the level of (the totality) of Hunter Biden's crimes since 2014. Might as well pardon them all and call it a decade. The pardon process is one of those things that boils down to...it is what it is. 1/6 was a stain on the nation imo, and actions have consequences (admittedly less so for relatives of powerful politicians). Part of me understands that you have to bring the hammer down on an assault on the seat of power--and there was some of that to be sure-- and we also have to recognize that the laws dealing with that type of activity are likely quite different than those that deal with trespassing at the local 7/11. Still, it seems there was some justice meted out with an intent to destroy people v punish/rehabilitate. I also must shun you now for sending me that picture.
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