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1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Thanks. 

So they will need to cut someone when DC is ready to go

 

Most likely one of either Jordan Phillips or Quinton Jefferson.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Cray51 said:

The only arguably worse position group on the team is DT, and that’s a stretch

 

 

No it's definitely DT.   They got guys playing meaningful snaps there that they picked up off the street weeks ago.   Daquan Jones has been awful this year and Ed Oliver has had an unproductive season.   

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6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

No it's definitely DT.   They got guys playing meaningful snaps there that they picked up off the street weeks ago.   Daquan Jones has been awful this year and Ed Oliver has had an unproductive season.   

 

I think it's debatable, but if you consider the return based on the investment in the position, I think you may be right.

 

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44 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

No it's definitely DT.   They got guys playing meaningful snaps there that they picked up off the street weeks ago.   Daquan Jones has been awful this year and Ed Oliver has had an unproductive season.   

I knew this last year that signing DQ made as much sense as hanging on to Star for another year...which was actually 2 too long. I get tired of the whole 1 tech, takes up 2 guys crap. We need to draft two Jeffery Simmons....and do it his year. What did the Titans do?...draft Sweat.

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15 minutes ago, nosejob said:

I knew this last year that signing DQ made as much sense as hanging on to Star for another year...which was actually 2 too long. I get tired of the whole 1 tech, takes up 2 guys crap. We need to draft two Jeffery Simmons....and do it his year. What did the Titans do?...draft Sweat.

Jeffery Simmons don't grow in trees lmao

 

And EVERY SINGLE defensive philosophy uses techniques... Our 4 down line and all 4 down lines play 1 and 3 techniques at DT basically 

 

It's nothing new 

 

A 34 front would use a 0 Tech at DT

 

 

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4 hours ago, mannc said:

How is LB a weak position group?  Bernard is the team captain and an all-pro level player and Williams is a plus starter.

This is a stretch 

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2 hours ago, PonyBoy said:

Mike White should get in Brock Purdy's head before the game pulling this up on his phone 😃

 

https://makeagif.com/gif/matt-milano-destroys-mike-white-shorts-short-xZHkYz

That's the absolute hardest legal hit you can possibly see in today's NFL. Ouch.

14 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

This is a stretch 

What's a stretch? He was 1st team All-Pro in 2022.

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47 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Maybe. I'd rather get rid of Morrow and keep an extra DL. 

Maybe Jalen Virgil, too.

 

51 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Jeffery Simmons don't grow in trees lmao

 

And EVERY SINGLE defensive philosophy uses techniques... Our 4 down line and all 4 down lines play 1 and 3 techniques at DT basically 

 

It's nothing new 

 

A 34 front would use a 0 Tech at DT

 

 

Can we get a Jalen Carter? A Chris Jones?

 

Everyone wants a 340 lb two gap player like Sweat…but it is not McDermott’s style. And the chances we are able to run across a 320 lb pass rushing force like the guys listed above is slim. 
 

I think they’ll reinvest this offseason in the DL (I can believe I’m saying this) and I can’t wait. They’ve already begun with the Carter pick…but they have a lot of room to grow. The 1 year stop gap deals of camp fodder playing significant snaps has caught up to their depth at the position, and I think they’re in a place now they can finally put more meaningful assets into the interior 

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5 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Maybe Jalen Virgil, too.

 

Can we get a Jalen Carter? A Chris Jones?

 

Everyone wants a 340 lb two gap player like Sweat…but it is not McDermott’s style. And the chances we are able to run across a 320 lb pass rushing force like the guys listed above is slim. 
 

I think they’ll reinvest this offseason in the DL (I can believe I’m saying this) and I can’t wait. They’ve already begun with the Carter pick…but they have a lot of room to grow. The 1 year stop gap deals of camp fodder playing significant snaps has caught up to their depth at the position, and I think they’re in a place now they can finally put more meaningful assets into the interior 

Again those are top 5-7 guys.. Carter was considered the best pure player in the draft but nobody wants to take a DT top 5... The return is almost never worth it 

 

So he slipped a bit

 

Jordan Phillips is every bit 330 plus but he's a pass rushers not an anchor... We saw what he could do with motivation years ago 

 

9.5 sacks and a force... But 95% of DTs can't sustain that

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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Again those are top 5 guys.. Carter was considered the best pure player in the draft but nobody wants to take a DT top 5... The return is almost never worth it 

 

So he slipped a bit

 

Jordan Phillips is every bit 330 plus but he's a pass rushers not an anchor


Right, this is my point. As fans we want both, but it really isn’t easy to get a guy who can possess the size to be stout in the run game against a double team and wreak havoc against the pass. 
 

Fans have grown weary to watching teams be able to push around the DL on the ground, and its lead to many wanting that traditional space eater nose tackle. 
 

That is just not what McBeane will want. They know it’s not apple picking grabbing a guy who can do both, so I think they opt to do with guys who can penetrate and rush the passer, since their defense is primarily built to stop the pass. 

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