If Mahomes got hurt......

[Monty98]

There's a competitive side to being an athlete that to be the best you have to beat the best. Wanting KC at full health makes sense, it's like if you're a Leafs fan, you gotta beat Boston in the playoffs to really break that curse, huh no wonder I hate Boston sports teams.

 

On the flip side, injuries happen and if it happened we'd revert back to well we didn't have x last time so? Either way people won't be happy with either answer or outcome. Just win each week 1-0

[Kaenon]

On 11/30/2024 at 12:14 AM, Billyhouseman said:

Who here would honestly say "Oh no I want the chiefs at their best, now they have an excuse built in!" Or who here would give the "Jerry Seinfeld" "That's a shame" sarcastic remark.... The dude is getting pummeled by his crap offensive line and it can legitimately happen.... Same with Lamar too

 

Actually had a dream last night that the Bills were playing the Chiefs in the playoffs and Mahomes got hurt on a sack on the last play before halftime.

2nd half Mahomes comes out with a neck brace thing on but remained on the sidelines.

[Neo]

2 hours ago, ganesh said:

Did they have an asterisk last year when they beat us...I mean half of our defense was missing and the defense was called by a guy who was on his way to a family vacation... A win is a W.I.N

 

You set your bar, I’ll set mine.  You may not differentiate.  I do.

 

Allen and the Bills beating Mahomes and the Chiefs means more to me than Allen beating Wentz.  That was the question in the OP asked.  Context, history, myth and legend.   I have grandchildren who’ve heard Marino and Elway, Bradshaw and Staubach.  My grandfather goes to Starr and Unitas.   Elway, Kosar.  Marino, Kelly.  Brady, Manning.

 

I prefer an opportunity for romance, myth and legacy to a win over Carson Wentz. 

 

“A win is a win” is a perfectly fine way to look at competition.   So is “no two wins are the same.”

 

I don’t understand the need to challenge or contradict.

[CoudyBills]

On 11/30/2024 at 12:18 AM, BillsFan130 said:

I genuinely never want a player to get hurt unless you're a player like Deshaun Watson for which I could care less.

 

But if Mahomes had to miss a game against the bills and he came back 100 percent healthy next year, that wouldn't break my heart..

So not all humans are humans?  Got it.  I dont disagree about Watson, but I don't profess to care about anyone.  Lok.

[BillsFan130]

39 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

So not all humans are humans?  Got it.  I dont disagree about Watson, but I don't profess to care about anyone.  Lok.

Um- I will have 0 sympathy for a guy who has allegedly sexual assaulted 25 women (guaranteed it's way more) in contrast to an nfl player who's not a criminal.

 

 

Edited Sunday at 02:57 PM by BillsFan130

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, Neo said:

 

You set your bar, I’ll set mine.  You may not differentiate.  I do.

 

Allen and the Bills beating Mahomes and the Chiefs means more to me than Allen beating Wentz.  That was the question in the OP asked.  Context, history, myth and legend.   I have grandchildren who’ve heard Marino and Elway, Bradshaw and Staubach.  My grandfather goes to Starr and Unitas.   Elway, Kosar.  Marino, Kelly.  Brady, Manning.

 

I prefer an opportunity for romance, myth and legacy to a win over Carson Wentz. 

 

“A win is a win” is a perfectly fine way to look at competition.   So is “no two wins are the same.”

 

I don’t understand the need to challenge or contradict.

Would you have discounted Super Bowl XXV if Norwood’s FG went through? That win wouldn’t have been satisfying enough because it was Hostetler and not Simms?

[Neo]

28 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Would you have discounted Super Bowl XXV if Norwood’s FG went through? That win wouldn’t have been satisfying enough because it was Hostetler and not Simms?

 

Discounted?   When did I make that claim?  If goal posts moved in football games as much as they do on the interwebs, Norwood’s kick would’ve been good.

 

Take sixty seconds and read what I’ve written, originally to no one but in response to the OP’s question.

 

In my view, an Allen / Bills win over a Mahomes / Chiefs team would mean more to me than the same win over Wentz / Chiefs.  I’d prefer it.   I’d prefer Mahomes healthy.  Read that twice.

 

I’ve since learned, from good posters, that all wins count the same in the standings and other teams have beaten injured opponents.   Well, alert the media.  I had no idea.

 

You want A5 Kobe or a choice shank steak?   A cow is a cow.  Your choice is yours and I have no interest in changing your mind.

 

 

Edited Sunday at 04:08 PM by Neo

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, Neo said:

 

Discounted?   When did I make that claim?  If goal posts moved in football games as much as they do on the interwebs, Norwood’s kick would’ve been good.

 

Take sixty seconds and read what I’ve written, originally to no one but in response to the OP’s question.

 

In my view, an Allen / Bills win over a Mahomes / Chiefs team would mean more to me than the same win over Wentz / Chiefs.  I’d prefer it.   I’d prefer Mahomes healthy.  Read that twice.

 

I’ve since learned, from good posters, that all wins count the same in the standings and other teams have beaten injured opponents.   Well, alert the media.  I had no idea.

 

You want A5 Kobe or a choice shank steak?   A cow is a cow.  Your choice is yours and I have no interest in changing your mind.

 

 

So I ask again, is a in over Hostetler less satisfying than a win over Simms? If a win over Wentz is less satisfying than a win over Mahomes, surely the Giants Super Bowl would be the same.

[Neo]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

So I ask again, is a in over Hostetler less satisfying than a win over Simms? If a win over Wentz is less satisfying than a win over Mahomes, surely the Giants Super Bowl would be the same.

 

I wish you the best as you get on with your day.

 

[PastaJoe]

 

Always want best vs best.

[Kirby Jackson]

15 minutes ago, Neo said:

 

I wish you the best as you get on with your day.

 

Hypocrisy and hyperbole have gotten out of control on this board over the last few years. When someone says something dumb, it should have a light on it. You obviously didn’t answer the Hostetler/Simms question because it would either make you a hypocrite or a bad fan. I expected this kind of response. Instead of backpedaling to “a win is most important” you stuck to your guns that they all aren’t created equal. If you’re being consistent, we can all assume that you would have thought less of the Bills, if they won in Super Bowl XXV because Simms was out. Do you now understand why your original point has been criticized by so many?

[Joe Ferguson]

Mahomes can get his head decapitatd from his spine and can still throw a TD pass on the next play. This dude never gets injured.

[ddaryl]

On 11/29/2024 at 9:14 PM, Billyhouseman said:

Who here would honestly say "Oh no I want the chiefs at their best, now they have an excuse built in!" Or who here would give the "Jerry Seinfeld" "That's a shame" sarcastic remark.... The dude is getting pummeled by his crap offensive line and it can legitimately happen.... Same with Lamar too

 

If Patrick Mahommes was to end up on IR at any point in his career, we need to remind KC fans how it was a horrible draft pick and we schooled them on that trade. [/sarcasm]

 

 

Honestly what happens happens, that's why they play the game.

[SaulGoodman]

On 11/30/2024 at 1:41 AM, QB Bills said:

If I could pick anyone from that roster to miss a playoff game against the Bills, it's definitely Chris Jones, not Kermit.

 

Lol. Ridiculous. Even more so after watching Jones do literally nothing vs the Bills last time. 

[Neo]

11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Hypocrisy and hyperbole have gotten out of control on this board over the last few years. When someone says something dumb, it should have a light on it. You obviously didn’t answer the Hostetler/Simms question because it would either make you a hypocrite or a bad fan. I expected this kind of response. Instead of backpedaling to “a win is most important” you stuck to your guns that they all aren’t created equal. If you’re being consistent, we can all assume that you would have thought less of the Bills, if they won in Super Bowl XXV because Simms was out. Do you now understand why your original point has been criticized by so many?

 

Yes, now I understand.  Thank you for your patience and efforts.   I’m grateful for your insight into my character and intellect.   You’re a special person with gifts.   Please continue your efforts to make the board a better place and don’t be discouraged by hypocrites and dummies like me.

 

[Sojourner]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

So I ask again, is a in over Hostetler less satisfying than a win over Simms? If a win over Wentz is less satisfying than a win over Mahomes, surely the Giants Super Bowl would be the same.

A win is satisfactory. It’s down to preference. 
 

Whether you agree or not, there’s a lot who feel the same sentiment that @Neo shares. 
 

The point isn’t whether a win or a loss has credit but rather the substance that is a by product of it. 
 

His steak analogy echoes that. 

Not saying you don’t understand the interpretation of what he’s saying but that the answers he’s giving you aren’t what you want. Which is odd. 

[stevestojan]

I want the chiefs at their worst. No pat, no kelce, no Reid, no Tay Tay, no refs, no family or friends for any of them. 
 

I just want a Super Bowl. And anyone who says we didn’t beat the chiefs at their best can eat buttcheeks. 
 

Am I petty? You betcha. 
 

go bills. 

[Peace Frog]

Over at Chiefs Planet, they're bellyaching about this thread being started, making it sound like we all want Mahomes to get hurt. Personally, I don't want him injured. However, I'm totally fine with him being super sore the next morning after playing us because we sacked him a dozen times.

[Kirby Jackson]

21 hours ago, Sojourner said:

A win is satisfactory. It’s down to preference. 
 

Whether you agree or not, there’s a lot who feel the same sentiment that @Neo shares. 
 

The point isn’t whether a win or a loss has credit but rather the substance that is a by product of it. 
 

His steak analogy echoes that. 

Not saying you don’t understand the interpretation of what he’s saying but that the answers he’s giving you aren’t what you want. Which is odd. 

I don’t “want” any particular answer. I want consistency. If a win over Wentz means less to you than a win over Mahomes, than the Super Bowl against Hostetler wouldn’t have been as satisfying as if Simms played. That’s what consistency would look like.

 

I don’t care what anyone believes. The thing that makes this place best is when people stick to their beliefs. If he said, “that Super Bowl win wouldn’t have meant as much to me as if Simms played,” I would respect that. The best posters are the ones that support their positions and remain steadfast when challenged. There are lots of people on here who have said outlandish things. Stick to your guns if you really believe it. 

[Sojourner]

51 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I don’t “want” any particular answer. I want consistency. If a win over Wentz means less to you than a win over Mahomes, than the Super Bowl against Hostetler wouldn’t have been as satisfying as if Simms played. That’s what consistency would look like.

 

I don’t care what anyone believes. The thing that makes this place best is when people stick to their beliefs. If he said, “that Super Bowl win wouldn’t have meant as much to me as if Simms played,” I would respect that. The best posters are the ones that support their positions and remain steadfast when challenged. There are lots of people on here who have said outlandish things. Stick to your guns if you really believe it. 

A win against any team means exactly the same, at least to me. A win is literally a win.  
 

Maybe it’s the former football player in me that would rather be teeing off against a team, and beating them, at their best. It removes the BS “what-if” narratives that outsiders or opposition are able to factor in against the result. 
 

To piggyback off @Neo’s steak analogy, which is actually a solid one at that… if I want to eat steak for a meal then the best cut or grade would be ideal. However, if I’m still eating steak how can I complain? 
 

If our boys beat team A at full health/strength; awesome! If our boys beat team A missing key player/s; just as awesome!