Raiders @ Chiefs — Black Friday — 3 PM Eastern — Prime Video

[Behindenemylines]

25 minutes ago, MJS said:

The Chiefs make plenty of mistakes, including turning over the ball a lot. They get plenty of penalties. I don't think they are some bastion of fundamentals the rest of the NFL looks to. They have an elite defense, a really good QB, and a really good head coach. That has always been a recipe for staying in most games.

Don’t consider their Dcrfense elite.   Top 12 but not rkite

[Dan]

Just now, Behindenemylines said:

Don’t consider their Dcrfense elite.   Top 12 but not rkite

I been drinking too

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

10 minutes ago, Billl said:

Cool.  Just show me a video clip with sound.  (I’ve watched it 50 times.  No whistle was blown.)

that sideline ref who threw the flag looks like he is running onto the field immediately and signaling dead ball. Obviously everything is happening really fast and at the same time as the ball being snapped. But it sure looks like he was trying to stop the play. 

[TH3]

48 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

The Chiefs are 9-0 in one score games this year. What would you call that?

 

Playing crap teams and getting lucky

[Motorin']

18 minutes ago, Success said:

Feels like we'll have to beat the Lions, and just in general run the table.

 

I can see KC losing 1 more.  The way their season is going, losing 2 would be a tall order.

 

 

Nearly losing two weeks in a row to the two worst teams in football, I think there's a realistic chance they fall off a cliff. 

[Joe Ferguson]

I cannot wait until these clowns get knocked out of the playoffs by a good team.

[Goin Breakdown]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

I didn't watch so, wait...what?

[Dan]

24 minutes ago, Success said:

Feels like we'll have to beat the Lions, and just in general run the table.

 

I can see KC losing 1 more.  The way their season is going, losing 2 would be a tall order.

 

The way I see it… Bills need to play hard for at least 3 weeks.  After the Lions game (maybe the 1st Pats game)… see where the standings are.   At that point either keep playing hard for the 1 seed.  Or rest players as needed to be healthy for the playoffs. 
 

AND if they get to the last week and #1 is not possible ..treat it like a bye. 
 

 

[SaulGoodman]

25 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

The key to beating KC is you have to be up 2 scores at the 2 minute warning so the refs can’t take the game from you without it being 100% obvious. That’s a tall task, because the refs are going to try and keep it a one score game (unless KC is ahead) so they can affect the outcome at the end. No team has been the recipient of more game changing BS calls than the Pats*, but KC is a very close second. Mahomes has the most interceptions overturned by defensive penalties in the history of the NFL. That’s by design. So you just have to accept that the Chiefs are going to get the majority of the game changing calls, and plan to overcome that by steam rolling them. It’s easier said than done, but Buffalo has done it multiple times, we just need to do it in the playoffs if we meet up with them.

 

People bring up this "most interceptions overturned" thing a lot....you do realize that the vast majority of those are free plays, right? That Mahomes sees the flag and lobs up a risky pass? Maybe the refs are psychic. 

 

One stat that is legit: Mahomes has by far the most TDs nullified by penalty of any QB since he entered the league. 

[HappyDays]

14 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Playing crap teams and getting lucky

 

Lucky? Going back to the playoffs last year they've won 12 one score games. Assuming a 50% chance of victory in each one, that's a 1 in 4,096 chance if it's based on pure luck. And it isn't just the dregs of the league they're doing this to. In that time they've done it to the Bills, the Ravens (twice), the 49ers, the Bengals, the Broncos... The result is the result. Chiefs find a way to win these games no matter the quality of their opponent. I don't see any of their remaining opponents this year getting up by two scores with 2 minutes to go which is why I'm predicting 16-1. We're the only team (with the only player) that's shown the ability to do what needs to be done in crunch time to beat them.

 

Edited November 30 by HappyDays

[mikemac2001]

4 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

I didn't watch so, wait...what?

Ya so center snapped early qb wasn’t ready 

 

ref blew whistle and signaled false start then they called it illegal shift (not sure any raiders were moving) and called it a live ball KC recovered even after a dead ball blown whistle 

 

this was after the huddled up but you shouldn’t be able to just change the call and especially after it was blown dead for a dead ball foul 

Edited November 30 by mikemac2001

[BuffaninSarasota]

31 minutes ago, Billl said:

Cool.  Just show me a video clip with sound.  (I’ve watched it 50 times.  No whistle was blown.)

The side judge signaling false start then waved the play dead. What do you call that ?

Edited November 30 by BuffaninSarasota
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[Einstein]

33 minutes ago, Success said:

Feels like we'll have to beat the Lions, and just in general run the table.

 

I can see KC losing 1 more.  The way their season is going, losing 2 would be a tall order.

 

 

Perspective is funny.

 

Because to me, I could see KC losing all of the rest of their games.

 

They are barely squeaking out games against the NFL’s worst teams. At some point, the luck may run out.

[bills742]

36 minutes ago, Billl said:

Cool.  Just show me a video clip with sound.  (I’ve watched it 50 times.  No whistle was blown.)

 

[RiotAct]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Perspective is funny.

 

Because to me, I could see KC losing all of the rest of their games.

 

lulz

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Perspective is funny.

 

Because to me, I could see KC losing all of the rest of their games.

 

They are barely squeaking out games against the NFL’s worst teams. At some point, the luck may run out.

Agreed. I actually think they match up pretty poorly too with both the Steelers and chargers. Broncos already played them tight once. I think the chiefs end up dropping at least 2 more. 

[bills742]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Agreed. I actually think they match up pretty poorly too with both the Steelers and chargers. Broncos already played them tight once. I think the chiefs end up dropping at least 2 more. 

Any team that has a good D-line will continue to abuse their tackles and no quarterback no matter how talented is completely immune to pressure. 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Billl said:

LOL, the Chiefs never win games because of special teams…

Are kickers not part of special teams?  

20 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:

 

People bring up this "most interceptions overturned" thing a lot....you do realize that the vast majority of those are free plays, right? That Mahomes sees the flag and lobs up a risky pass? Maybe the refs are psychic. 

 

One stat that is legit: Mahomes has by far the most TDs nullified by penalty of any QB since he entered the league. 

The vast majority - care to show us the stats?

[Billl]

11 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

The side judge signaling false start then waved the play dead. What do you call that ?

A still shot taken after the snap.  For anyone arguing with the way it played out, how do you think it should have been officiated?

 

 There were several players who were moving just prior to the snap.  They didn’t all get set for a second.  The ball was snapped.  That constitutes an illegal shift which is a live ball foul.  The snap was fumbled and recovered by Kansas City.  Chiefs ball.  What is the possible alternative?

4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Are kickers not part of special teams?  

Yes, I was pointing out the absurdity of the guy saying that the Patriots were better because New England won games with special teams whereas the Chiefs don’t.  

[BearNorth]

10 minutes ago, bills742 said:

Any team that has a good D-line will continue to abuse their tackles and no quarterback no matter how talented is completely immune to pressure. 

Mahomes has been incredibly lucky to still be relatively healthy given the number of sacks he has taken this year.  Having an elite Center and guards is all well and good, but I thought Crosby was going to break him in half a couple of times.  Karlafitis was lunching on their left tackle most of the second half.

I imagine the Chief's newly acquired just off IR tackle will be starting next week.