Raiders @ Chiefs — Black Friday — 3 PM Eastern — Prime Video

[Einstein]

17 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

what you just described as flukey bs...is the chiefs playing the game fundamentally sound and not making back breaking mistakes.

 

know why the bills beat them last week, it's because they can play the fundamentally sound brand of football and have a unicorn at qb just like KC.  

 

I sure as hell hope they lose 3 of 5 to finish the season but again it's highly unlikely.

 

 

Horse baloney lol.

The Chiefs are playing like garbage and barley squeaking by BAD teams with luck.

[pi2000]

The only player not ready for the snap was the QB.   They had a silent count and the guard tapped the center.   All the offensive players started when he snapped it.  How is that a penalty? 

 

It shoulda just been a fumble and KC ball.

 

It's whatever.   KC won't get out of the divisional round anyway.

[BillsFan130]

2 minutes ago, Process said:

To me the big difference is the defense looks no where near as good as last year. A dominant defense is how they won the Superbowl.

 

Mahomes and the offense will play better in the playoffs but if the defense isn't playing at an elite level like they were last season it won't be enough. The Bills, when healthy, are too good. 

I am not saying you are wrong, I am just not going to get my hopes up. 

 

I did this to myself last year and thought there was no way they were winning the SB after losing to the raiders at home

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

28 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

But the chiefs just did this last year?  They didn't beat any good teams in the regular season last year off the top of my head then they won in buffalo and in baltimore and a super bowl.

 

what do the steelers have to do with anything?  There identity is losing playoff games, the polar opposite of KC.

I don’t understand that part of the argument though…there’s a whole lot more going on contextually that didn’t happen to them last year and you’re saying they’ll do the same thing in the playoffs as last year 
 

Having to shell out for Jones and let Sneed walk has had huge ripple effects on the db depth and the offensive tackle they drafted to shore up that position is looking like a bust, they lost two big time wrs to injury, and so on.  This is not the same chiefs team as even last year.  I mean I get the ‘mahomes can will them to victory in the playoffs’ argument in theory but he has so much to overcome this year I just don’t see it happening.  They really do look like paper tigers to me this year much like that Steelers team did 

Edited November 30 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Process]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

I am not saying you are wrong, I am just not going to get my hopes up. 

 

I did this to myself last year and thought there was no way they were winning the SB after losing to the raiders at home

Given the history that's very understandable 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

so view that from the potential negative outcome there.

 

say they go on fourth down while they are having all kinds of issues pass protecting and get stuffed like they did earlier in the game.

 

now the raiders have the ball at the 44 instead of their 8.   Punting led them to have drive the ball into fg range with no timeouts and then successfully execute a field goal when they have already missed 3 on the day.

 

At home believing in his defense is punting a sound fundamental decision or is taking an unnecessary risk and going for it on fourth down the sound approach?

 

think hard on that and then when you get to the answer ask yourself the question, Does KC beat people playing fundamentally sound football?

Why wouldn’t they get it?

 

Patty is the most clutch QB of this generation, they’re at home, have a HOF Coach, HOF Tight End. 
 

They can salt the game away with 2-yards, and they get another gift. 
 

The Bills showed it’s possible, now the rest of this league needs to follow, and I have faith they will.
 

Edited November 30 by Straight Hucklebuck

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Can you imagine this sort of end of game miracle happening to the bills? Other team drives down the field into FG range for the inevitable win, and the center snaps the ball on a dead ball foul, which the refs basically overrule to allow for a fumble recovery? 

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Process said:

Given the history that's very understandable 

I got some bad PTSD with them haha

[QLBillsFan]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

Maybe- But no matter how they finish the season it doesn't matter to me personally, as they are the champs and are the team to beat IMO

Agree 💯 they are simply not as good as the other afc teams. But if in KC must blow them out. They will unlikely lose a one score game.. for a variety of reasons. 

[MikePJ76]

Just now, Einstein said:

 

Horse baloney lol.

The Chiefs are playing like garbage and barley squeaking by BAD teams with luck.

fine I give up.  

 

The chiefs suck, its all a conspiracy for the worlds biggest pop star to sell more records and her new epiphone guitars.

 

plus I think the CIA is using some of that high tech weather equipment the gov'ment has to alter the trajectory of opposing kickers kick to ensure said conspiracy.

 

oh and they are beating bad teams this month or something.

 

Will this get the replies to stop?

[Motorin']

33 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

yes i understand that.  They already beat denver and LA once this year so what makes it so improbably they would beat them again?

 

There is no column in the standings labeled "Almost".  Wins, Loss and Ties.  That is all their is.

 

and the golden rule is, It's not HOW it's How many.  for the chiefs it currently is 11

 

Get back to me in 6 weeks. 

[thewookie1]

9 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

or

 

the chiefs didn't commit any back breaking penalties on that final drive, for instance something like Karlaftis blasting oconnell after a pass giving them 15 extra yards and stopping the clock allowing them to get set and kick a field  goal 0r run another play etc.  Instead the raiders had to be perfect.  They had to go down and run their two minute drill perfectly then leave enough time for their kicker to have a shot.  then they need to execute the kick.

 

KC puts so much pressure on other teams to be perfect because you know going in they will not beat themselves and if you do not believe me then go back and search this thread for all the posts (myself included) about how the game felt over when the raiders missed their second field goal attempt.  IF yo make mistakes you lose because they will not.  

 

 

The play should have been blown dead regardless. If the refs don’t want to affect the game; then give Vegas a 5 yard penalty and replay 3rd down with 15 seconds left. If the Raiders fail, the Chiefs are lucky they keep playing bad teams. In this case it’s a purely a win handed to them by refs.

[mannc]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I am not saying you are wrong, I am just not going to get my hopes up. 

 

I did this to myself last year and thought there was no way they were winning the SB after losing to the raiders at home

That’s a solid coping strategy…can’t argue with it.

[HappyDays]

15 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

It just doesn't matter who they play. Every game will be a one score affair down to the wire and they're really good and being on the right side of those situations. If you're looking for style points to declare why they won't be a postseason threat you're mistaken. That's not who they're at this point and really wasn't last year either. 

 

You beat them by being up two scores at the 2 minute warning. Anything else is just a tease for the inevitable outcome.

[MikePJ76]

Just now, Motorin' said:

 

Get back to me in 6 weeks. 

this reads like in 6 weeks there will be a new column for almost.

 

also it reads like you think I am happy KC is winning or something.  If Andy reid and I were on a cliff, I would push him and then taunt him during his descent.  

 

so that should make my position clear.

[Success]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Can you imagine this sort of end of game miracle happening to the bills? Other team drives down the field into FG range for the inevitable win, and the center snaps the ball on a dead ball foul, which the refs basically overrule to allow for a fumble recovery? 

 

Doesn't happen. Instead, kickers make 60-yarders in driving rain in those circumstances.

 

It truly makes me wonder.

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Can you imagine this sort of end of game miracle happening to the bills? Other team drives down the field into FG range for the inevitable win, and the center snaps the ball on a dead ball foul, which the refs basically overrule to allow for a fumble recovery? 

To be somewhat fair to the chiefs which I hate doing lol the broncos missed a chip shot against us last year and we bailed them out 🤣

[gonzo1105]

Woof missed the ending, was it as bad as it appears? 

[4merper4mer]

Just now, gonzo1105 said:

Woof missed the ending, was it as bad as it appears? 

Worse

[NoSaint]

43 minutes ago, Process said:

If it wasn't for their history, we'd all feel pretty confidently that they were the worst 11-1 team we've ever seen, right?

for sure but that’s still a pretty solid feat to get to 

 

realistically probably more of an 8-4 team which is not a slouch