Raiders @ Chiefs — Black Friday — 3 PM Eastern — Prime Video

[iwishitwerecolder]

I mean what just happened is a result of championship DNA, something the bills don’t have. Even if there isn’t a fumble, chiefs still win. 10 second run off, game over

[DCOrange]

1 minute ago, Sojourner said:

Exactly. But they didn’t get out of bounds prior when they had a clear chance. What makes you think they’re going to get a chance again?
 

By running any play you’re potentially resulting in rushing the kicker and FG unit on or running the clock out completely is my point. Didn’t think it would ever result in a fumbled snap and turnover; nor did anyone else I would bet. 
 

Mind boggling. 

They likely weren't running a real play. They were most likely just throwing the ball away to take a few more seconds off the clock. Pretty standard in those situations. Nearly 0 risk involved...

[Motorin']

Just now, MikePJ76 said:

no.  I think buffalo running the table in the regular season is a big ask and if they don't and they lose one they then need the chiefs to lose 2.  That scenario is highly unlikely.

 

The Chiefs have almost lost to the 2 worst teams in the league in back to back weeks. They play 4 playoff teams to end the season. 

[jkeerie]

The NFL is brain dead if they think the country wants to see the Chiefs in another Super Bowl.  No one likes dynasties except the fans of the dynasty team.  There are more non-Chiefs fans than there are Chiefs fans.  And it's worse when the dynasty team gets a bit of help along the way.

[ExWNYer]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

we did it for the pats for a decade. Bad teams blow these games, and good teams don’t.

 

its mostly the gap between good and bad teams 

 

I get all that and I agree...but 3 missed FGs doesn't necessarily have anything to do with being a bad team. Carlson has been a decent kicker his entire career. That's some flat out luck for KC.

[MikePJ76]

Just now, mannc said:

They absolutely do not nave 3 very difficult games starting Sunday.  They will be favored by 7 or more in two of them.

well I think  they do and do not care about point spreads.  They have to play two nfc west teams fighting to win the division and then the nfc's best team at detroit.  I think that is a very hard 3 game stretch.

[Billsatlastin2018]

2 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Didn’t think it would ever result in a fumbled snap and turnover; nor did anyone else I would bet. 

I did. They’re playing the Chiefs!

 

That was an Eberfus like clown car decision.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

they are 11-1 and back to back super bowl champions.

 

They win because they are good and beat people at the fundamentals.  They are no more lucky than Detroit was yesterday.  KC forces their opponents to play mistake free fundamentally sound football for 60 minutes.  Not many teams in this league can do that because its a pretty average league to be honest and hardly any teams actually demand excellence from their club.  Those day are gone.

 

 

Considerably more inferior teams are beating them in the fundamentals haha I genuinely just don’t get what this side of the argument is seeing.  The raiders played extremely far from mistake free football tonight even before that late fumble and still outplayed the chiefs I’d say 

Edited November 29 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[JerseyBills]

1 minute ago, Lionel Hutz said:

How far was that FG the Eagles made against us to send the game into OT last year? It had to be longer than all the misses by the Raiders today. What unbelievable luck the Chiefs have. 

 

I swear Andy Reid sacrificed his first-born son or something for football immortality. 

Bills are on another level. Been saying for weeks,  they're a slightly above average team, just put record aside and watch them play.

Bills are an elite team. 

[TNBills]

1 minute ago, iwishitwerecolder said:

I mean what just happened is a result of championship DNA, something the bills don’t have. Even if there isn’t a fumble, chiefs still win. 10 second run off, game over

No 10 second run off as the clock was already stopped.

[Thrivefourfive]

The Chefs will soon suffer tremendously from this once more flock of lucky

 

JA:17

[buffblue]

5 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

they are 11-1 and back to back super bowl champions.

 

They win because they are good and beat people at the fundamentals.  They are no more lucky than Detroit was yesterday.  KC forces their opponents to play mistake free fundamentally sound football for 60 minutes.  Not many teams in this league can do that because its a pretty average league to be honest and hardly any teams actually demand excellence from their club.  Those day are gone.

 

 

The fundamentals of what? Sucking balls against the worst teams in the league and needing to be gifted victories?

 

 

[HappyDays]

8 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

You can’t make this garbage up. Chiefs are the worst 1 loss team I’ve ever seen, the defense is carrying Mahomes, the goat talk can just stop now. Mahomes has looked extremely pedestrian this season, hasn’t even been a top 3 QB in the league this year, let alone “goat”.

 

Mahomes has never been the only reason they win like this. This year more than ever. Of course some weeks he's the reason, like last week. Everybody on the roster takes a turn. And sometimes the other team just screws it up on their own because they're intimidated by the aura.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Just re watched it and they did blow it dead and the ref ran in signaling false start. So, how could they even change that call?

Yep. Even if the flag was picked up it would have been a dead play.

 

Is that a ridiculously long kick to make after a penalty? Yes? Did the Raiders deserve to lose? Yes. But this is some BS

[MikePJ76]

Just now, Motorin' said:

 

The Chiefs have almost lost to the 2 worst teams in the league in back to back weeks. They play 4 playoff teams to end the season. 

yes i understand that.  They already beat denver and LA once this year so what makes it so improbably they would beat them again?

 

There is no column in the standings labeled "Almost".  Wins, Loss and Ties.  That is all their is.

 

and the golden rule is, It's not HOW it's How many.  for the chiefs it currently is 11

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 minutes ago, iwishitwerecolder said:

I mean what just happened is a result of championship DNA, something the bills don’t have. Even if there isn’t a fumble, chiefs still win. 10 second run off, game over

Championship DNA - ok man. 
 

1-minute before Andy Reid punted on a 4th-2 to give the ball back and his QB was angry about it. 

[Lionel Hutz]

Just now, JerseyBills said:

Bills are on another level. Been saying for weeks,  they're a slightly above average team, just put record aside and watch them play.

Bills are an elite team. 

The problem is that the Chiefs have shown they can turn it on in the playoffs.

 

Feels like the Bills need to play perfectly and even then they still need luck. 

[paulmm3]

Refs botched this one bad. There was no illegal shift - show me who moves for the Raiders. Second - they blew the play dead before the recovery. 

[MikePJ76]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Considerably more inferior teams are beating them in the fundamentals haha I genuinely just don’t get what this side of the argument is seeing.  The raiders played extremely far from mistake free football tonight even before that late fumble and still outplayed the chiefs I’d say 

so three missed field goals, getting stuffed on 4th and 1 and committing repeated pass interference penalties to extend drives for KC is fundamentally sound football?

 

Ok then.

[DCOrange]

7 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:

What I don't understand is why the center snapped the ball, then after the play gets upset with the refs?  

Could be arguing it was a presnap penalty or could have been upset with his teammate for telling him to snap the ball when the QB wasn't ready.