Raiders @ Chiefs — Black Friday — 3 PM Eastern — Prime Video

[Freddie's Dead]

8 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

isn’t an illegal shift a dead ball?

 

No.  False start, yes, IS no.

[Sojourner]

1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said:

You don’t aim to rush a kicker on.  You try to get it closer and get out of bounds or then kick the fg.  

Exactly. But they didn’t get out of bounds prior when they had a clear chance. What makes you think they’re going to get a chance again?
 

By running any play you’re potentially resulting in rushing the kicker and FG unit on or running the clock out completely is my point. Didn’t think it would ever result in a fumbled snap and turnover; nor did anyone else I would bet. 
 

Mind boggling. 

[Lionel Hutz]

How far was that FG the Eagles made against us to send the game into OT last year? It had to be longer than all the misses by the Raiders today. What unbelievable luck the Chiefs have. 

 

I swear Andy Reid sacrificed his first-born son or something for football immortality. 

[The Frankish Reich]

So where was the illegal motion? 

For that matter, what would've been a false start? (since the "start" was when the center snapped the ball)

Probably should've been a no call, with, unfortunately, the Chiefs getting possession.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Just now, Beast said:

I don’t care if we play the Chiefs at Arrowhead, Highmark or Mars. The Bills are going to smoke these clowns in the playoffs if they meet.

Agreed! Bills toughest competition will be Ravens, Steelers, or Chargers. 

[Motorin']

Just now, njbuff said:

Even if the Chiefs get the one seed, there will be a good, hungry team going to their house to try and knock them off in the divisional round.

 

Said team (whoever that is) can ABSOLUTELY knock the Chiefs out before the AFCCG.

 

4 out of their last 5 are teams currently in the playoffs, plus a Cleveland team with a seemingly rejuvenated defense.

[MikePJ76]

1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

 

You think it's highly likely the Bills lose 2 games or more?

no.  I think buffalo running the table in the regular season is a big ask and if they don't and they lose one they then need the chiefs to lose 2.  That scenario is highly unlikely.

[Matt_In_NH]

Just now, Sojourner said:

Exactly. But they didn’t get out of bounds prior when they had a clear chance. What makes you think they’re going to get a chance again?
 

By running any play you’re potentially resulting in rushing the kicker and FG unit on or running the clock out completely is my point. Didn’t think it would ever result in a fumbled snap and turnover; nor did anyone else I would bet. 
 

Mind boggling. 

Because it happens a lot?

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, Lionel Hutz said:

sacrificed his first-born son

He tried; the kid lived.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Just now, Sojourner said:

Exactly. But they didn’t get out of bounds prior when they had a clear chance. What makes you think they’re going to get a chance again?
 

By running any play you’re potentially resulting in rushing the kicker and FG unit on or running the clock out completely is my point. Didn’t think it would ever result in a fumbled snap and turnover; nor did anyone else I would bet. 
 

Mind boggling. 

good point.  Odds were that that last play was a pointless out of bounds pass anyway. 

[Special K]

47 minutes ago, Special K said:

Come on Vegas.......don't "Raider" this up!!

 

Well I guess they decided to "Raider" it up.

 

Chiefs have to be the most fraudulent 11-1 team in NFL history.

 

Struggling to beat the Panthers and Raiders in consecutive weeks officially takes them off the "Scary team for the Bills to play" list for me.

[mannc]

Just now, MikePJ76 said:

well winning out is of course possible but they have 3 very difficult games in a row he starting sunday.  

 

Obviously I hope they do its just a really tough ask.

They absolutely do not nave 3 very difficult games starting Sunday.  They will be favored by 7 or more in two of them.

[pennstate10]

Luckiest team in the league. 
Amiright?

[sven233]

I just can't with this team anymore.  They have a lucky horseshoe crammed so far up their butts it must be irretrievable. 

 

Seriously....have they won a single game this season without something stupid happening to help them at some point?  I can't think of one.  Missed FGs against. blocked gimmie game winner, teams snapping the ball when nobody is ready, a couple last second FGs against terrible teams that should have beat them, etc.....  the list just seems to go on.  I've never seen such an average looking team get to 11-1 like they have. 

 

Look....are they good?  Of courser they are.  As long as they are Super Bowl champions, they are the team to beat, but this gifting from other teams screwing themselves over needs to stop.

Edited November 29 by sven233

[Motorin']

Just now, Sojourner said:

Exactly. But they didn’t get out of bounds prior when they had a clear chance. What makes you think they’re going to get a chance again?
 

By running any play you’re potentially resulting in rushing the kicker and FG unit on or running the clock out completely is my point. Didn’t think it would ever result in a fumbled snap and turnover; nor did anyone else I would bet. 
 

Mind boggling. 

 

They should have run the clock down to 3 seconds on the play before when they spiked it and sent the kicker out.

[HappyDays]

4 minutes ago, zow2 said:

The fact that KC struggles this much to beat Carolina and LV, they are getting bounced in their first playoff game.

 

So when they lost to this same team on Christmas last year, which ended a streak where they lost 5 games in 8, what did that mean in the end?

 

It will be easier for everybody if you accept that they are going to win every single game exactly like this all the way to holding the Lombardi, unless one player stops them.

[That's No Moon]

2 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:

What I don't understand is why the center snapped the ball, then after the play gets upset with the refs?  

Because they changed the penalty call from false starts to an illegal shift. False start would have given the Raiders the ball back after a 10 second run off and allowed them to try a FG. Illegal shift doesn't kill the play like that and this allowed KC to keep the ball.

[buffblue]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

we did it for the pats for a decade. Bad teams blow these games, and good teams don’t.

 

its mostly the gap between good and bad teams 

Yes, but EVERY team seemingly bends over backwards to hand Kansas City football games. And that doesn't even take into account officiating, which is...slightly biased

[Uncle Monkeyhead]

"found a way to win"

My a$$. T'was a gift

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, Lionel Hutz said:

How far was that FG the Eagles made against us to send the game into OT last year? It had to be longer than all the misses by the Raiders today. What unbelievable luck the Chiefs have. 

 

I swear Andy Reid sacrificed his first-born son or something for football immortality. 

59 yards in the rain.