Eberflus (finally) fired

[Low Positive]

23 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

Reportedly, the players were angry in the locker room at the end of the game and near the point of mutiny.  Keenan Allen, for example, said, "I feel like we did enough as players to win the game." 

 

Whether the wasted clock was more the HC's or QB's fault is immaterial at this point.  When the coach loses the locker room, he's done.  

 

I feel for the guy. He went from Staley to Flus. 

[JP51]

7 hours ago, MJS said:

That was an epic failure yesterday. Anyone involved deserves major criticism, especially the coach. Given everything else that has gone on, it would be criminal not to fire him.

After he botched the end of the game he should have been fired in the locker room and made to walk back to Chicago

[EmotionallyUnstable]

4 hours ago, syhuang said:

 

 

This makes no sense lol 😂 

[SoCal Deek]

7 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

 

I assume that’s a joke.

 

Edelweiss

 

On a serious note SoCal, there is talent on the Bears, and the team has been miscoached and managed.  They need a McBeane type tandem to start seriously building a team.

You’re seriously asking if it was a joke? 😉

[BigDingus]

Caleb is lucky he's a rookie 1st round QB, otherwise his ass would be on the hot seat too.

 

Obviously, the coach deserves plenty of blame for not calling the TO, but Caleb is just as responsible for playing with no urgency!

 

Dude was just lolly-gagging back there, twiddling his thumbs while the clocked ticked away. Everyone at my house began yelling "SNAP THE BALL!" as he just waited an additional 8 seconds after getting to the line to even hike it.

 

And that's after he took a sack at the worst possible time! Eberflus could've bailed his QB out with a TO there, but Caleb playing with his head in the clouds at the end of the game was just baffling to watch.

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

12 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

Caleb is lucky he's a rookie 1st round QB, otherwise his ass would be on the hot seat too.

 

Obviously, the coach deserves plenty of blame for not calling the TO, but Caleb is just as responsible for playing with no urgency!

 

Dude was just lolly-gagging back there, twiddling his thumbs while the clocked ticked away. Everyone at my house began yelling "SNAP THE BALL!" as he just waited an additional 8 seconds after getting to the line to even hike it.

 

And that's after he took a sack at the worst possible time! Eberflus could've bailed his QB out with a TO there, but Caleb playing with his head in the clouds at the end of the game was just baffling to watch.

 

 

I’m guessing he was watching the play clock in the back of the end zone, and not the game clock up higher in the stadium….which is why it’s up to the coaching staff to jump in. 

[Richard Noggin]

11 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

A possible fit for Ben Johnson.  There's a lot to work with in Chicago.  

 

Could be, depending on Johnson's judgment of ownership and front office. Seems more like Johnson will get to interview the organizations this year, rather than the other way around. Has to be the absolute #1 candidate. 

[GunnerBill]

38 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Could be, depending on Johnson's judgment of ownership and front office. Seems more like Johnson will get to interview the organizations this year, rather than the other way around. Has to be the absolute #1 candidate. 

 

Also depends what he thinks of Caleb. Because if you think Caleb is good (and there have been flashes as a rookie) then there is a good chance to win quickly in Chicago. 

 

The downside is it is a very tough division. I think the Lions and the Packers are the two best teams in the conference and Minnesota has talent and is well coached.

[Richard Noggin]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Also depends what he thinks of Caleb. Because if you think Caleb is good (and there have been flashes as a rookie) then there is a good chance to win quickly in Chicago. 

 

The downside is it is a very tough division. I think the Lions and the Packers are the two best teams in the conference and Minnesota has talent and is well coached.

 

Yeah, Johnson has positioned himself as a candidate who will seemingly evaluate the entire situation and his decision(s) will "bear" watching. 

[Sierra Foothills]

16 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

seems the hard knocks guys this year are all going to get canned.  Have to wonder if zach taylor is next after the hard knocks afc north show starts this week.

if the bengals finish like 6-11 it has to be on the table.  They don't like to spend money in cincy though so I am not sure how many years are left on his deal.

 

Zac Taylor's contract takes him through the 2026 season.

 

In their history the Bengals have fired 2 head coaches during the season... Bill “Tiger” Johnson was fired in 1978 by the late owner Paul Brown. David Shula was fired in 1996 by the current owner Mike Brown.

 

So firing Taylor in season is unlikely to happen but on the other hand prior to the Eberflus firing, the Bears in their 125 year history had never fired a head coach during the season.

 

16 hours ago, Beast said:

I don’t like seeing people fired but this was deserved.

 

16 hours ago, Mat68 said:

He was always a lame duck head coach.  Not hiring Harbaugh because Warren and Poles were too insecure will always be a massive failure.  This is where weak ownership destroys the franchise.  Very much a Brandon, Whaley situation when Pegula first bought the team.  Why draft a qb #1 and keep the win nothing head coach?   

 

14 hours ago, FLFan said:

He was going to get fired at the end of the season anyway.  This does not matter much either way, but it is well deserved.

 

Eberflus needed to go and everyone got their pound of flesh... the bloodlust needed to be satisfied. 

 

That said, the timing and fashion of the firing was as much of a debacle as was the final 30 seconds of the game.

 

The Bears organization doesn't even know how or when to fire someone.

 

[Matt_In_NH]

17 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

It was horrible clock management on Eberflus' part but the QB has to have some awareness of the clock as well. I'd assume he's been playing the game for a few years.

Agree you need your qb to understand the situation.  However the coach needs to know his players capacity to understand what is happening and step in there and call TO.  Caleb is getting a pass but agree he owns it too.  A seasoned field general would have just called TO. 

[GunnerBill]

10 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Agree you need your qb to understand the situation.  However the coach needs to know his players capacity to understand what is happening and step in there and call TO.  Caleb is getting a pass but agree he owns it too.  A seasoned field general would have just called TO. 

 

Eberflus's instinct that you keep the clock running, call a play, get another 5 or 6 yards then call time out was correct. But it was clear at 22/21 seconds that Caleb was panicking. At that stage any HC worth his salt steps in, calls time out, gives himself 30/40 seconds to calm his QB down and work out what to do. 21 seconds, slant for 5 or 6 yards and run on the FG team is an option. Of you try and find something to the sideline. 

[eball]

Haven’t read this thread but I did watch the end of that schitt-show on Thursday.  One of the worst examples of end-of-game clock management (perhaps the worst) I’ve ever seen.  Eberflus completely deserved to lose his job but the Bears should have waited until the end of the season.  The OC needs time to work with Caleb and putting all of the new interim HC responsibilities on him was dumb.

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Yeah, Johnson has positioned himself as a candidate who will seemingly evaluate the entire situation and his decision(s) will "bear" watching. 

Tie him to a chair, and force him to watch the 'Super Bowl Shuffle' until he signs a contract.

[T master]

20 hours ago, mannc said:

Supposedly, Williams checked out of the play call, which caused the delay…

 

Not sure if he checked out but from what i saw he wasn't in a big hurry at all and should have had his team up to the line with the amount of time they had left immediately to save as much time as they could for his offense to score . He has had to have been in those situations some where at some time in his career i think it was both bad coaching & a rookie not being coached to know how to handle those type of situations in game .

[FireChans]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Eberflus's instinct that you keep the clock running, call a play, get another 5 or 6 yards then call time out was correct. But it was clear at 22/21 seconds that Caleb was panicking. At that stage any HC worth his salt steps in, calls time out, gives himself 30/40 seconds to calm his QB down and work out what to do. 21 seconds, slant for 5 or 6 yards and run on the FG team is an option. Of you try and find something to the sideline. 

Correct.

 

it was obvious that the plan was not being executed at that point. You can blame Caleb but he’s a rookie QB. 
 

If you aren’t going to burn a TO to prevent your rookie QB from messing up the end of game situation, when are you?

 

The more I think about, I think the Flus has probably gotten into his own head a bit about end game management. Was probably crossing his mind “how is the media gonna react if i call this TO now.” Not blaming him, it’s human nature. But that’s when the show is over.

[Mr. WEO]

heard on the radio before 'Flus was fired that Ben Johnson isn't interested in Chicago

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Ben Johnson and relatives react to a possible HC position with the Bears:

 

 

[HerdMentality]

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