What the Hell is Happening in Syria?

[yall]

58 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Israel is doing the Corleone strategy, where at the end of Godfather 1, Michael "settles all the family business."

 

Israel clearly doesn't want the Iranian weapons supply pipeline to get into the hands of wackos.

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This 💯.

 

I'm sure there's a ton of hardware that all of the various factions are just dying to get their mitts on.

[Niagara Bill]

Does anyone really care about this piece of sand. Or should care. Neither side has our beliefs, neither side can be trusted, if the country just vanished over night nothing that is positive to us would change in the world. I have  sympathy, for them, (I wish them no ill, like many if them do to us) and I certainly don't want any of them to migrate here. We have enough protest about these types of wars.

[The Frankish Reich]

4 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

Israel is doing the Corleone strategy, where at the end of Godfather 1, Michael "settles all the family business."

 

Israel clearly doesn't want the Iranian weapons supply pipeline to get into the hands of wackos.

And I believe none of this happens without the incredibly evil, brutal, and stupid October 7 Hamas terrorist attacks. That set into place a cascade of actions. Hamas and its Iranian overlords were shocked by the resolve of Israel to utterly destroy Hamas. They seemed to think that taking it to a 2-front war through Hezbollah/Lebanon would give them the advantage back. Wrong again. 

Not just evil, but an epic miscalculation. I don't think anyone knows how this will play out eventually, but the world of the Middle East is not returning to what it was on October 6, 2023.

 

Meanwhile, Russia is looking at the same fate, emerging from its Ukranian flex as a much weaker power. 

Edited December 10 by The Frankish Reich

[sherpa]

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

And I believe none of this happens without the incredibly evil, brutal, and stupid October 7 Hamas terrorist attacks. That set into place a cascade of actions. Hamas and its Iranian overlords were shocked by the resolve of Israel to utterly destroy Hamas. They seemed to think that taking it to a 2-front war through Hezbollah/Lebanon would give them the advantage back. Wrong again. 

 

I think they demonstrated how incredibly stupid they are.

They always assume that the world court, as the UN is, will rescue them when Israel destroys them, which it always does.

 

This time, that didn't happen.

Israel decided it would go to the mat to destroy Hamas, no matter the international viewpoint. 

Momentum led them to Hezbollah, correctly.

 

The weakness of Iran is a biproduct that led us to this point.

Either way, there is no turning back, nor should there be.

1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

Does anyone really care about this piece of sand. Or should care. Neither side has our beliefs, neither side can be trusted, if the country just vanished over night nothing that is positive to us would change in the world. I have  sympathy, for them, (I wish them no ill, like many if them do to us) and I certainly don't want any of them to migrate here. We have enough protest about these types of wars.

 

I'm not sure who are referring to when you state "neither side."

If you are referring to Israel as one of these 'sides," they absolutely "share our beliefs."

[Dukestreetking]

5 hours ago, yall said:

I'm sure there's a ton of hardware that all of the various factions are just dying to get their mitts on

Agree. And good posts by @Niagara Billand @The Frankish Reich.

 

I won't belabor this, but I spent a long time along IZ-SYR border (and beyond!) chasing "rat lines" of insurgents, as well as other, possible weapons transfers, not necessarily of the AK-type.

 

My bottom line: the SYR internals were almost impossible to keep up with, even with the best information. I still don't understand it, even though I thought I knew alot about HTS, Maher, the Alawis, etc.

 

For the moment, per Open Source, the Izzy's are taking care of the most sensitive sites. I would hope for a more robust, on-ground USG investigation into certain locations, but not realistically possible rn.

 

I guess the best bet is to wait and see, w a hedge toward keeping some distance. Believe me, it's a friggin' goat rope.

 

 

[Niagara Bill]

33 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I think they demonstrated how incredibly stupid they are.

They always assume that the world court, as the UN is, will rescue them when Israel destroys them, which it always does.

 

This time, that didn't happen.

Israel decided it would go to the mat to destroy Hamas, no matter the international viewpoint. 

Momentum led them to Hezbollah, correctly.

 

The weakness of Iran is a biproduct that led us to this point.

Either way, there is no turning back, nor should there be.

 

I'm not sure who are referring to when you state "neither side."

If you are referring to Israel as one of these 'sides," they absolutely "share our beliefs."

I mean Syria, Assad and whoever gains control.

As for Israel, this fight with  Islam will never end. Therefore, they need to do whatever damage they can.

[The Frankish Reich]

Interesting analysis. For your convenience, it's all in one piece here:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1866032875348381907.html

[Tommy Callahan]

They seem nice 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Israel confirms attack on Syrian naval fleet

Jacqueline Howard

 

 

 

Israel has confirmed it carried out attacks on Syria's naval fleet, as part of its efforts to neutralise military assets in the country after the fall of the Assad regime.

In a statement, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said its ships struck the ports at Al-Bayda and Latakia on Monday night, where 15 vessels were docked.

 

The BBC has verified videos showing blasts at the port of Latakia, with footage appearing to show extensive damage to ships and parts of the port.

The IDF also said its warplanes had conducted more than 350 air strikes on targets across Syria, while moving ground forces into the demilitarised buffer zone between Syria and the occupied Golan Heights.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqx808q7lrno

[All_Pro_Bills]

2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

They seem nice 

 

 

Retribution killings in Syria have already started. Surprise, surprise. One group targeted are US backed Kurds. Will Biden abandon them consistent with the bug-out from Afghanistan? Or will the US through airstrikes and ground forces neutralize the terrorists taking control of the country?

 

If Israel is threatened (it seems to be already), will it be a surprise if Mossad takes out the benefactor of ISIS and these other terrorist groups, President Erdogan of Turkey? And then, will US led NATO invoke Article 5 against Israel?

 

Lots of questions. Answers to follow with action on the ground.

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

Anyone read about the drones in Jersey?  

 

 

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Will Biden abandon them consistent with the bug-out from Afghanistan? Or will the US through airstrikes and ground forces neutralize the terrorists taking control of the country?

 

Or to rephrase: will Biden follow his successor's advice and keep out of it and let this play out?

 

Sometimes it doesn't make sense to always play the Biden vs. Trump card. There is no perfect response here, and almost certainly the U.S. will be involved in some manner. To be determined, not just now, but in the next months and years.

[All_Pro_Bills]

5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Or to rephrase: will Biden follow his successor's advice and keep out of it and let this play out?

 

Sometimes it doesn't make sense to always play the Biden vs. Trump card. There is no perfect response here, and almost certainly the U.S. will be involved in some manner. To be determined, not just now, but in the next months and years.

I suggest we're already involved because we have 800 to a couple thousand military service people occupying parts of northeastern Syria coordinating with Kurdish fighters and also being there under pretense of being on the hunt for ISIS. Who are more or less the same guys that just took over the country.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

Let us hope

 

 

[Steve O]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

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"...as you know, with many of our deployments, numbers will fluctuate from time to time..."

You know, 900, 2000, difference is insignificant.

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

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So?

[Steve O]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

So?

Good case: Pentagon has been lying all along.

Bad case: Pentagon doesn't have any idea what's going on.

Most likely case: A significant amount of both good and bad case scenarios.

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

So?

More government lies, not a problem for roundy.