Who you got for the probowl?

[GASabresIUFan]

36 minutes ago, Logic said:

That's it. No one else on the Bills this year reasonably warrants Pro Bowl consideration.

Shakir?

[Logic]

6 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Shakir?

Not in my opinion.

Ja'Marr Chase
Zay Flowers
George Pickens
Garrett Wilson
Brian Thomas Jr

Are all ahead of Shakir in yardage and touchdowns, and all would get my vote for an AFC playoff spot over Shakir.

I like Khalil Shakir. I also like James Cook. But if you want to give a spot to either of those guys, you have to tell me who you're taking out to make room for them, and I see lots of more deserving players ahead of both at their respective positions.

[Don Otreply]

I got ;

 

Teef

Gunnerbill

Simon

Augie

Oldmanfan,

 

 

[gordong]

2 hours ago, GreggTX said:

Here's my list of Bills that deserve the nod.

 

Offense:

Josh Allen

James Cook

Deion Dawkins

Spencer Brown

Khalil Shakir

 

Defense:

Greg Rousseau

Christian Bedford

Terrell Bernard

Taron Johnson (forgot!)

 

Not on my list:  Ed Oliver, Matt Milano, Amari Cooper

 

I think Oliver isn't having a very good year. Milano is great, but he's missed too much time to qualify. Transferring to a new team has not helped Amari, but he's still good. I just think there are better WRs based on this year's numbers. I do give him a lot of credit for playing hurt though.

 

So who are your probowl caliber studs?

Spencer Brown the whipping boy all off season?  gonna be some big time crow eating if he makes the probowl. 

Edited November 26 by gordong

[BuffaloBillyG]

Shocked so many have Dawkins. I think he's having his worst year ever. Seems like a lot of penalties as well. 

[GASabresIUFan]

4 minutes ago, Logic said:

Not in my opinion.

Ja'Marr Chase
Zay Flowers
George Pickens
Garrett Wilson
Brian Thomas Jr

Are all ahead of Shakir in yardage and touchdowns, and all would get my vote for an AFC playoff spot over Shakir.

I like Khalil Shakir. I also like James Cook. But if you want to give a spot to either of those guys, you have to tell me who you're taking out to make room for them, and I see lots of more deserving players ahead of both at their respective positions.

All your guys are outside receivers.  Shakir is 2nd in the NFL in YAC and Leads the NFL in YAC per reception for receivers with over 40 catches.  He also leads NFL receivers in catch %.  He is arguably the best slot receiver in football.  

 

AMcConkey has more receptions and yards than Thomas among AFC rookies.  Sutton has outperformed Wilson and both have barely better number than Nico Collins who has played 4 less games.  

[Logic]

26 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Who wants to be the QB's will be Mahomes, Jackson and Burrow?

100%

The Pro Bowl is a joke. All Pro is all that matters.

 

2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

All your guys are outside receivers.  Shakir is 2nd in the NFL in YAC and Leads the NFL in YAC per reception for receivers with over 40 catches.  He also leads NFL receivers in catch %.  He is arguably the best slot receiver in football.  

 

AMcConkey has more receptions and yards than Thomas among AFC rookies.  Sutton has outperformed Wilson and both have barely better number than Nico Collins who has played 4 less games.  

The problem is that the Pro Bowl doesn't specifically designate separate spots for slot receivers or nickel corners.

It should, but it doesn't. It's positional allocation is antiquated.

If there were slot and nickel allocations specifically, Shakir and Johnson would both merit consideration. But there aren't.

Edited November 26 by Logic

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Every year we pick like 12 Bills, then every year only 1 or 2 are actually selected as alternatives.

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Shakir?

He’s not close. Top 6 WRs in NFL are supposed to each get a Pro Bowl spot/vote. I could make an argument for 10 or so WRs and he’s not one of them. That said, he’s a good WR and I’m happy to have him on the Bills. 

[GASabresIUFan]

36 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

He’s not close. Top 6 WRs in NFL are supposed to each get a Pro Bowl spot/vote. I could make an argument for 10 or so WRs and he’s not one of them. That said, he’s a good WR and I’m happy to have him on the Bills. 

He is the best slot receiver in football.  Maybe the pro-bowl only looks at yards and TDs, but a guy who is the best at his position should be in the pro-bowl and on the all-pro teams.  Taron Johnson made the All-pro 2nd team last year and is the best slot corner in the NFL.  Maybe it's time slot receivers get the same respect.

Edited November 26 by GASabresIUFan

[gonzo1105]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Shocked so many have Dawkins. I think he's having his worst year ever. Seems like a lot of penalties as well. 

It’s not about deserving. It’s about reputation. Dawkins has established himself now as a pro bowler and I would expect him to be named again to it 

[Doc Brown]

It’ll be Mahomes, Burrow, and Lamar at QB.  Josh will get snubbed again like last year.  I guarantee it.

[Jauronimo]

I really hope zero Bills are attending the pro bowl this year.  If 3rd alternate Josh Allen makes it again I will be disappointed.

[BarleyNY]

40 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

He is the best slot receiver in football.  Maybe the pro-bowl only looks at yards and TDs, but a guy who is the best at his position should be in the pro-bowl and on the all-pro teams.  Taron Johnson made the All-pro 2nd team last year and is the best slot corner in the NFL.  Maybe it's time slot receivers get the same respect.

He’s not even close and if he wasn’t a Bill, then no one here would ever even mention him. Here’s a list of some other NFL WRs who play a lot of slot, many of whom can also play on the outside. Since all WRs are considered together, versatility should be considered a plus:

Amon Ra-St. Brown

Nico Collins

CeeDee Lamb

Keenan Allen

Cooper Kupp

Chris Godwin

Jaden Reed

Jerry Jeudy

Jakobi Meyers

Christian Kirk

 

If you’re going to put him above that whole list, then you’re delusional. 

 

[frostbitmic]

Are they going to run the obstacle course this year or is that too dangerous ?

[Kelly to Allen]

Dawkins, and Spencer Brown 

Allen, Cook, Shakir 

 

Rousseau 

Bernard 

Benford 

Taron 

 

Reid Ferguson 

And Bass 

 

Bass had the kick of the year and kicks in Buffalo which is extremely difficult. I love bass don't care what you think lol

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

It’ll be Mahomes, Burrow, and Lamar at QB.  Josh will get snubbed again like last year.  I guarantee it.

This would be insane 

Edited November 26 by Kelly to Allen

[BringBackFergy]

Who on TBD cares?

Who ya got?

 

[Process]

Allen won't make it

 

Will not be surprised if Dawkins is the only one

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

It’ll be Mahomes, Burrow, and Lamar at QB.  Josh will get snubbed again like last year.  I guarantee it.

 

That's not far-fetched at all. 

 

Lamar and Burrow are having better years than Josh statistically. Mahomes will get in because of what he's done in previous seasons. 

 

I would even bet Herbert as the 1st alternate over Josh. 

 

As for the entire roster I'll predict Dawkins (not that he deserves it, but O-line is based more on reputation) and T. Johnson. There's plenty of guys having good enough seasons to make the pro-bowl but without being dominant enough that the national media would be forced to put them on the team. 

[RangerDave]

If Reid Ferguson doesn't make it this year, it's rigged!