The Frankish Reich Posted November 26 Posted November 26 3 minutes ago, sherpa said: You would be well advised to practice a bit of self discipline here. There are plenty of people here who are well educated and quite successful. I do appreciate commenters who have actual expertise in a certain field and are willing to share it here. OK, so not to pat myself on the back, I do have a pretty good handle on the immigration/drug smuggling angle. Illegal immigration between Canada and the US is a real thing. But it goes both ways. Quick examples: https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics/Pages/Irregular-border-crosser-statistics.aspx (that one is USA to Canada) https://www.npr.org/2024/09/10/nx-s1-5091259/indian-migrants-immigration-canada-northern-border-illegal-us-customs-and-border-protection (that one is Canada to the USA) Now the point is this: Canada is not even remotely akin to Mexico when it comes to facilitating illegal immigration to the United States. We already have an agreement with Canada that illegal immigrants (non-visa holding) who try to enter the USA at a Port of Entry (think: Rainbow/Peace Bridge) will be returned to Canada to make an asylum claim. And vice-versa. We can certainly negotiate something similar with Canada for illegal immigrants trying to enter illegally between official ports of entry - that is, your classic "illegal immigrants." The 25% tariff on Canada simply isn't justifiable on these grounds, even if it is justifiable with respect to Mexico. (Or, for other reasons, China.) And, of course, it damages trade overall with Canada and specifically will have a disproportionate negative impact on the Buffalo economy. So why? A beef with Canada because Trump dislikes Trudeau, who is younger, better looking, with better hair, and the worst sin of all, taller?
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 26 Posted November 26 5 minutes ago, sherpa said: You would be well advised to practice a bit of self discipline here. There are plenty of people here who are well educated and quite successful. Roundy falls into the camp where 76,857,299 (and counting) people that cast a vote this election are low income, low functioning illiterates who don't see the brilliance of the way. A frequent talking point used was 'educated' and 'uneducated', apparently used by frequently by people sharing their political point of view while waiting in line to fill out their application to enter the Biden Student Loan Forgiveness Transfer portal. 1
Roundybout Posted November 26 Author Posted November 26 28 minutes ago, sherpa said: You would be well advised to practice a bit of self discipline here. There are plenty of people here who are well educated and quite successful. Well they should speak up more as they get drowned out by the sea of “communism” poop throwing See! 1
FireChans Posted November 26 Posted November 26 10 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Well they should speak up more as they get drowned out by the sea of “communism” poop throwing See! Can you explain why you bat signaled me into the dungeon? 2
Roundybout Posted November 26 Author Posted November 26 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Can you explain why you bat signaled me into the dungeon? Ah nuts, think I tagged the wrong guy. One of y’all usually has good questions about urban planning.
The Frankish Reich Posted November 26 Posted November 26 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Can you explain why you bat signaled me into the dungeon? Hey, you're welcome to stick around. But I think you know better ...
FireChans Posted November 26 Posted November 26 55 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Ah nuts, think I tagged the wrong guy. One of y’all usually has good questions about urban planning. 5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Hey, you're welcome to stick around. But I think you know better ... No one on PPP has ever had their mind changed. I used to come on here years ago, but decided i get enough of watching idiots scream at each other about politics everywhere else. Now I stick to the main board so I can watch idiots scream at each other about the Bills. Much more fun hobby. 1 1
BillsFanNC Posted November 26 Posted November 26 (edited) Roundy, the guy who readily labels others as nazis, fascists and racists like a broken record is annoyed when it's pointed out that by doing so he's following the Marxist playbook like a good useful idiot. Edited November 27 by BillsFanNC
4th&long Posted November 26 Posted November 26 You idiots will learn when your gas prices go up .75 Cents a gallon. We import oil and lots of it from Canada. Lots of food from Mexico. Trump is an idiot of epic proportions and his worshippers are worse.
Unforgiven Posted November 26 Posted November 26 No mention of china being the worlds largest polluter, filling our landfills with crappy amazon junk made cheap in slave sweat shops. Bring manufacturing back to America. F communist covid china. 1
ChiGoose Posted November 26 Posted November 26 4 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: So why? A beef with Canada because Trump dislikes Trudeau, who is younger, better looking, with better hair, and the worst sin of all, taller? Trump must have some issue with the USMCA trade agreement since he's vowing to break it on day one. I guess he thinks it was negotiated by an idiot and/or loser? 2
4th&long Posted November 26 Posted November 26 37 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Trump must have some issue with the USMCA trade agreement since he's vowing to break it on day one. I guess he thinks it was negotiated by an idiot and/or loser? Lol, it was negotiated by a real idiot and loser.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted November 26 Posted November 26 5 hours ago, Roundybout said: Well they should speak up more as they get drowned out by the sea of “communism” poop throwing See! Well alot of our produce comes from the Salinas Valley and Yuma, aka the United States.
JFKjr Posted November 27 Posted November 27 3 hours ago, 4th&long said: You idiots will learn when your gas prices go up .75 Cents a gallon. We import oil and lots of it from Canada. Lots of food from Mexico. Trump is an idiot of epic proportions and his worshippers are worse. Average price of gas per gallon in California is $4.35. Apparently that is sustainable for "reasons."
daz28 Posted November 27 Posted November 27 7 hours ago, K D said: How will this work? Will Mexico just detain citizens they believe may be looking to migrate over the border? Is that even legal?
K D Posted November 27 Posted November 27 1 hour ago, daz28 said: How will this work? Will Mexico just detain citizens they believe may be looking to migrate over the border? Is that even legal? They will put 25% tariffs on Guatamala if they let them get to Mexico. And so on and so on I think whatever they do the word will get out that it's not a good idea to walk to the US and the less number we have to deal with at the border the better. The few that get to us will be forced to stay in Mexico. And if mexico is on board they won't try to get through there either.
daz28 Posted November 27 Posted November 27 1 hour ago, K D said: They will put 25% tariffs on Guatamala if they let them get to Mexico. And so on and so on I think whatever they do the word will get out that it's not a good idea to walk to the US and the less number we have to deal with at the border the better. The few that get to us will be forced to stay in Mexico. And if mexico is on board they won't try to get through there either. First, would there be a way to tangibly monitor and track migration, with set guidelines on when the tariffs would/wouldn't be in effect? Second, that tariff is paid by US importers. The only way to avoid passing that cost on to US customers would be to get the goods through another similarly priced market. If the tariffs are on all Central American countries/markets, then where would we get these goods from at an affordable price for Americans? Certainly not American farmers, as they will already be hurting from losses of their migrant worker force, and they won't be able to compete price wise. A lot of the tariffs on China worked out, but the agricultural ones not so much, and that's the main export from Central America. The Canadian tariffs I really don't understand at all. The Chinese tariffs, with regard to fentanyl, also has the same issue with migration, in how would you monitor its success? I suppose we'll find out more details eventually, but for now those are some big questions. 2
Doc Brown Posted November 27 Posted November 27 No. Not at all. It's a tax passed onto the consumer. The only piece of mind I have with Trump is he will adjust his position based on the stock market like he did his first term. 1
GETTOTHE50 Posted November 27 Posted November 27 Rigged poll, but it’s something y’all are experts in so no surprised
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