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Just now, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

What UB needs to do is drop the football program and put maximum effort into building a Gonzaga-like college hoops experience. I think the market would support a consistent quality basketball program where fans can really buy into a team that participates in the Big Dance more often than not. 

I agree.  

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4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

I agree.  

UB football is there only sports program that doesn't lose money 

 

UB basketball loses money... UB football doesn't 

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Posted
23 hours ago, chongli said:

 

I live in the Bay Area...I try to stay out of Oakland as much as possible. There's a reason the A's, Raiders, and Warriors left (Raiders twice).

Actually, they could put a team in San Francisco.

 

Back when the XFL debuted, the San Francisco Demons had a strong following amongst fans. It could work again.

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Posted
4 hours ago, djp14150 said:


 

if IB had a good team, won MAC got in the 12 team tourney, playing at bills stadium, that  stadium would fill.  Same f threy hosted a big team like say Penn Start in Bills stadium.


lol no it wouldn’t 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

UB average 15k in attendance this year... And they sell more seats than that ... Some mac schools bring in 8,000 a game 

 

They've led the mac in attendance four or five times the last 10 years 

 

They have three bowl wins in the last 7 8 years 

 

Have produced a top five draft pick.. how many other schools have never done that 

 

There's 8 bulls in the NFL ... More than lots of schools

 

 


bahahaha

 

the other MAC schools capture attendance accurately. Obviously they don’t on Millersport Hwy

Posted
28 minutes ago, CaseyatBat said:


bahahaha

 

the other MAC schools capture attendance accurately. Obviously they don’t on Millersport Hwy

So every mac school is honest but UB fluffs there totals ?

 

They have ticket receipts

Posted
1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

So every mac school is honest but UB fluffs there totals ?

 

They have ticket receipts


ok lol

They are playing as we speak. Entire sections of seats empty but 15,000 screaming fans will be counted 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, CaseyatBat said:


ok lol

In 2023 .. a down year

 

UB  as a school had 40 million dollars in revenue... The highest of any Mac School 

 

Northern Illinois only had 22 million in revenue for a comparison 

 

UB also it had the highest football revenue iirc

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Posted
13 minutes ago, CaseyatBat said:


ok lol

They are playing as we speak. Entire sections of seats empty but 15,000 screaming fans will be counted 

Nobody goes to weeknight games. They do 15K on Saturdays.

Posted
11 hours ago, Big Turk said:

No...people barely go to the UB Bulls games and they have been pretty decent to good for much of the last 6-7 years.

3-7 last year

7-6 in 22

4-8 in 21

They have been wildly inconsistent the last few years. 

Posted
On 11/25/2024 at 6:06 PM, GMB 8888 said:

This could be a cool idea, if they could maybe tie in a reno to UB’s stadium. I know people hate on it, but I don’t mind spring football. Requires little investment and the games last year weren’t terrible.

Average UFL game has 13,512 fans UB has max of 25k. 

 

I don't see why we can't do this. I would watch it. 

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54 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

In 2023 .. a down year

 

UB  as a school had 40 million dollars in revenue... The highest of any Mac School 

 

Northern Illinois only had 22 million in revenue for a comparison 

 

UB also it had the highest football revenue iirc

 

Odd response. The money they get from taxpayers of NY state has nothing to do with their paltry attendance, what we were discussing.


 

The football “revenue” is also misleading, as the leading source of funding is the mandatory fee they make all students pay and has nothing to do with its support or efficiency 


 

 

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, CaseyatBat said:

 

Odd response. The money they get from taxpayers of NY state has nothing to do with their paltry attendance.
 

The football “revenue” is misleading, as the leading source of funding is the mandatory fee they make all students pay and has nothing to do with its support or efficiency 

Last season... With a terrible coach who was bottoming out the program...

 

UB averaged 13,000 per game... Toledo averaged 19,000 and led the Mac 

 

Go back when we were winning with leipold... And the bulls were leading the mac in ticket sales 

 

When you're bad for three or four years of course it hurts attendance 

 

When they have success a couple years in a row they bring in more fans

 

The entire Mac does not have big attendance

 

And Mac football revenue all has the same guidelines... So all the Mac schools are getting that student funding too

 

More consistent money is an easier way to a long-term stable program... Would you rather see your football program have 3 million in revenue or 10 million in revenue 

 

Any school would rather see 10 million

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted
56 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

3-7 last year

7-6 in 22

4-8 in 21

They have been wildly inconsistent the last few years. 

 

Yeah that's what happens with Mid Major programs when you hire good coaches and then they get poached by big schools...you have to start over a lot.

 

It's remarkable they keep finding good coaches so frequently that can build from scratch quickly.

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46 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Last season... With a terrible coach who was bottoming out the program...

 

UB averaged 13,000 per game... Toledo averaged 19,000 and led the Mac 

 

Go back when we were winning with leipold... And the bulls were leading the mac in ticket sales 

 

When you're bad for three or four years of course it hurts attendance 

 

When they have success a couple years in a row they bring in more fans

 

The entire Mac does not have big attendance

 

And Mac football revenue all has the same guidelines... So all the Mac schools are getting that student funding too

 

More consistent money is an easier way to a long-term stable program... Would you rather see your football program have 3 million in revenue or 10 million in revenue 

 

Any school would rather see 10 million

 

 

 

 

 


so they kill their baseball program and completely gut their basketball program to the point where it’s one of the worst D1 programs in the nation (they nearly lost to SUNY Fredonia)….

 

all to throw their money at their football program to recreate the “glory days” of the Lance Leipold era, where they played in front of a 3/4 empty stadium anyway….

 

just end it already it’s a failed venture 

 

 

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Posted
On 11/25/2024 at 3:49 PM, msw2112 said:

I'd vote no.  Ideally, Buffalo fans will spend their time and money attending Sabres games in the spring.  The Sabres, of course, need to do their part, which is a big ask.  As a smaller market, there just are not that many entertainment dollars to go around.

 

Maybe not in Buffalo, but I think the smarter plan overall would've been to place teams in smaller markets to begin with.

 

Cities without multiple major pro sports franchises, with the potential to develop passionate LOYAL fan bases, would be better than just picking every huge market with way more things to do.

 

If you're one of the biggest shows in town, there's a better chance to draw & retain interest. College football can pack 50k - 60k+ stadiums in smaller communities not just because the students fill the stadium, but because the whole community gets invested. And I think it'd be smart to choose NFL-hungry markets before throwing more teams in already saturated markets.

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I think this ufo has a shot to make it for a few years at least. I think there are a few gimmick rules I’d drop and they need more teams. Nobody takes a League seriously that is small. It’s sad but true. You got to get at least 14ish teams there for anyone to care. 16 would be ideal. Then maybe you can create a 2 team nfl personnel share type situation. And NFC and AFC can share developmental affiliation for each team 

Posted
11 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yeah that's what happens with Mid Major programs when you hire good coaches and then they get poached by big schools...you have to start over a lot.

 

It's remarkable they keep finding good coaches so frequently that can build from scratch quickly.

agree. That I would agree with. This school has been good at that for years. 

 

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