Former GMs Mike Tannenbaum and Rick Spielman to lead search for Jets new GM and HC

[dpberr]

9 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

You are suggesting a "GM by committee" structure for the FO with the committee being employed by an outside entity.  That -- turning corporate control over to employees of another corporation -- doesn't seem a good business model for any enterprise to me, and especially for an NFL team, which involves a relatively small number of employees at the upper levels.    Are any NFL franchises currently employing a firm to run their FO?   

No.    The Jets (Johnson) would hire a firm to provide the entirety of the general manager and front office services.  The Jets would not have separate front office personnel on their payroll like their own pro personnel executive, analytics, scouts, etc.  

 

 

[Captain Hindsight]

On 11/25/2024 at 4:28 PM, frostbitmic said:

OK, They can end their search, I'll do it.

 

HC - Doug Marrone ... It's his dream job so he'll be great

OC - Nathaniel Hackett ... A A Ron will be happy

DC - Rex Ryan ... It's on baby

QB - Aaron Rodgers ... A new 3 year 150M fully guaranteed contract

WR - Jake Kumerow

[The Jokeman]

13 hours ago, RunTheBall said:

Zero percent chance Ben Johnson those to that sht show in NJ. He had his pick of jobs last year and stayed put. He’s too smart to put himself at the helm of a perennial dumpster fire franchise with one of the worst owners in the NFL. Woody brought those guys in to try and give the job some legitimacy because NO ONE is going to the Jets unless you are grabbing a division 2 college coach

There are only 32 NFL head coaching jobs in the NFL someone will take the Jets job as think they can make the difference or be back in the game. I agree Johnson should have his options and don't see Jets an ideal fit but money and the media spotlight has enticed many to New Jersey. Yet if he doesn't go am sure there's a list of 4 or 5 NFL coaches that would. Another option could be Brian Flores yet I'd think they'd want to go with an offensive mind see current defensive regime has failed them. 

[SoTier]

8 minutes ago, dpberr said:

No.    The Jets (Johnson) would hire a firm to provide the entirety of the general manager and front office services.  The Jets would not have separate front office personnel on their payroll like their own pro personnel executive, analytics, scouts, etc.  

 

 

 

And this firm would provide executive front office services to multiple NFL teams?  I don't think that's a path that the NFL will go down any time soon if ever.

[Mr. WEO]

On 11/26/2024 at 10:04 AM, SoTier said:

 

Woody picked Joe Douglas as his GM, who picked Saleh.    Saleh wasn't a great HC but he was competent.  The whole Aaron Rodgers fiasco was the result of poor decisions made higher up the corporate food chain than HC.

 

Unlike most, I don't believe that Saleh was fired because he wanted to fire his OC, Hackett.  I think he was fired because he refused to fire Hackett when others in the organization/on the team wanted to cover their asses by firing the OC.  As it turned out, firing Saleh and relieving Hackett of his duties, didn't improve the Jests offense at all.

 

Woody's brother hired Saleh when Woody was in the UK.

[WotAGuy]

9 hours ago, dpberr said:

No.    The Jets (Johnson) would hire a firm to provide the entirety of the general manager and front office services.  The Jets would not have separate front office personnel on their payroll like their own pro personnel executive, analytics, scouts, etc.  

 

 

Is this really an “emerging trend” or just you spitballing?  I’ve seen companies hire outside firms/consultants for routine administrative tasks, but hiring out strategic/evaluation services seems like a reach. 

[GunnerBill]

On 11/27/2024 at 1:00 AM, RunTheBall said:

Zero percent chance Ben Johnson those to that sht show in NJ. He had his pick of jobs last year and stayed put. He’s too smart to put himself at the helm of a perennial dumpster fire franchise with one of the worst owners in the NFL. Woody brought those guys in to try and give the job some legitimacy because NO ONE is going to the Jets unless you are grabbing a division 2 college coach

 

Tom Peliserro on Eisen yesterday said he'd be surprised if Johnson interviews for more than 1 or 2 jobs this round. He isn't going to take 3 or 4 interviews like years past where he has interviewed for jobs he isn't sure he wanted then ended up withdrawing, sometimes when teams were basically about to hire him - see Washington last year. 

 

I think that is smart. Continually leaving teams at the altar is not good for your reputation. Ben Johnson doesn't need his "name out there" at this point. He is the hottest thing in a headset.... he should only interview for jobs he is convinced he would take if offered. I somewhat doubt that includes the New York Jets. 

10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Woody's brother hired Saleh when Woody was in the UK.

 

On Joe Douglas's recommendation though. Douglas very much led that search and Saleh was his guy. 

Edited Thursday at 10:16 AM by GunnerBill

[Mr. WEO]

7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Tom Peliserro on Eisen yesterday said he'd be surprised if Johnson interviews for more than 1 or 2 jobs this round. He isn't going to take 3 or 4 interviews like years past where he has interviewed for jobs he isn't sure he wanted then ended up withdrawing, sometimes when teams were basically about to hire him - see Washington last year. 

 

I think that is smart. Continually leaving teams at the altar is not good for your reputation. Ben Johnson doesn't need his "name out there" at this point. He is the hottest thing in a headset.... he should only interview for jobs he is convinced he would take if offered. I somewhat doubt that includes the New York Jets. 

 

On Joe Douglas's recommendation though. Douglas very much led that search and Saleh was his guy. 

true but Saleh was never Woodys guy.   Made him expendable, and he hardly helped him own cause.  He’s not HC material.  Decent Defensive  mind if there’s a stacked D roster.  

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

true but Saleh was never Woodys guy.   Made him expendable, and he hardly helped him own cause.  He’s not HC material.  Decent Defensive  mind if there’s a stacked D roster.  

 

I think he is a good defensive mind. The Jets D has definitely lost something without him. He didn't get it done as a Head Coach. I suspect he now settles into the career DC mode. Bit Jim Schwartz like.

[stuvian]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-14138919/Jeff-Bezos-shock-favorite-buy-New-York-Jets-Commanders.html

 

[FireChans]

The Jets aren’t for sale.

 

I am also in the running to buy them.

[Sweats]

6 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The Jets aren’t for sale.

 

I am also in the running to buy them.

 

 

 

 

Maybe i'll throw my hat in the ring here..........i've got an extra $20 laying around.

[Kirby Jackson]

This isn’t good. Ownership is the single most important factor of a team and so many people don’t even realize that. Every person, from GM, to coach, to scout, to concession manager are responsible for carrying out ownership’s vision/goals. I have no idea if Bezos will be good. I know Woody Johnson is a disaster. 

Edited Friday at 01:23 PM by Kirby Jackson

[chongli]

LOL:

 

 

[chongli]

14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This isn’t good. Ownership is the single most important factor of a team and so many people don’t even realize that. Every person, from GM, to coach, to scout, to concession manager are responsible for carrying out ownership’s vision/goals. I have no idea if Bezos will be good. I know Woody Johnson is a disaster. 

 

You say this isn't good, but then you say you have no idea if Bezos will be good??

 

I say it may be good for the Jets if Bezos can do for them what Steve Ballmer did for the Clippers. (Of course, this would be bad for the Bills.)

Edited Friday at 01:38 PM by chongli

[Beast]

17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This isn’t good. Ownership is the single most important factor of a team and so many people don’t even realize that. Every person, from GM, to coach, to scout, to concession manager are responsible for carrying out ownership’s vision/goals. I have no idea if Bezos will be good. I know Woody Johnson is a disaster. 

Who says Woody Johnson is selling?

 

And I think most here realize what good ownership means.

Edited Friday at 01:41 PM by Beast

[Gambit]

1 minute ago, chongli said:

 

You say this isn't good, but then you say you have no idea if Bezos will be good??

 

I say it may be good for the Jets if Bezos can do for them what Steve Balmer did for the Clippers. (Of course, this would be bad for the Bills.)

I figured that's what they were implying? Maybe I'm wrong though.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Not a sale.  A trade.  Bezos is offering Blue Origin to Johnson in exchange for the Jets.  Woody fits the role of space cadet more than NFL owner.

🤔

[The Jokeman]

41 minutes ago, Beast said:

Who says Woody Johnson is selling?

 

And I think most here realize what good ownership means.

We should all know what bad ownership means as Ralph was more Woody Johnson than Terry Pegula. 

[CNYfan]

Ralph was cheap