SoTier Posted November 26 Posted November 26 13 hours ago, The Jokeman said: People were calling for Pegula to find a football czar when he was looking for GM/HC many wanted Polian to be that guy. I don't blame Woody for getting perspective from guys that have been in league before. Not sure they're the best but at end of day I'd respect their thoughts than Woody alone. I mean if going to go with hot names I think hottest HC candidate is going to be Ben Johnson from Detroit and we could see a team pair him with Ray Agnew, Detroit's assistant GM. Yet if I'm either one of those guys I ditch Rodgers ASAP. I don't think that either of the Lions staffers would be interested in the Jests. They will undoubtedly have better options than Woody Johnson's dysfunctional franchise. 42 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He could do a lot worse. I agree, but Woody Johnson will undoubtedly pick the worst candidate. It seems to be what he does ... repeatedly. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted November 26 Posted November 26 13 minutes ago, SoTier said: I don't think that either of the Lions staffers would be interested in the Jests. They will undoubtedly have better options than Woody Johnson's dysfunctional franchise. I agree, but Woody Johnson will undoubtedly pick the worst candidate. It seems to be what he does ... repeatedly. He didn't pick Saleh Quote
SoTier Posted November 26 Posted November 26 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He didn't pick Saleh Woody picked Joe Douglas as his GM, who picked Saleh. Saleh wasn't a great HC but he was competent. The whole Aaron Rodgers fiasco was the result of poor decisions made higher up the corporate food chain than HC. Unlike most, I don't believe that Saleh was fired because he wanted to fire his OC, Hackett. I think he was fired because he refused to fire Hackett when others in the organization/on the team wanted to cover their asses by firing the OC. As it turned out, firing Saleh and relieving Hackett of his duties, didn't improve the Jests offense at all. Quote
LittleSammy Posted November 26 Posted November 26 If the Bills were in need of hiring a new GM and HC would you be comfortable with Terry Pegula making these decisions on his own? The "good" owners know their limitations and bring in the experts with the right skills to help in these cases. Unfortunately, a majority of the NFL owners rely on the egos and make these calls on their own. Kudos to Pegula for not being one of them. 2 Quote
CookieG Posted November 26 Posted November 26 45 minutes ago, LittleSammy said: If the Bills were in need of hiring a new GM and HC would you be comfortable with Terry Pegula making these decisions on his own? The "good" owners know their limitations and bring in the experts with the right skills to help in these cases. Unfortunately, a majority of the NFL owners rely on the egos and make these calls on their own. Kudos to Pegula for not being one of them. I can still remember in 2010, when Ralph named Buddy Nix the new GM. He sat at the podium and said something like: "The NFL sent us a list of possible candidates, and I didn't know anyone on the list, and Russ didn't know anyone on the list, so we went with someone we knew" Ironically, I never hated the Nix pick. He had a good track record as an asst GM. But after drafting CJ Spiller pick with the 8th (?) pick in the draft, he went about the rest of his tenure trying to rebuild the Chargers 3-4 defense in Buffalo. It didn't work. 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted November 26 Posted November 26 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Spielmen was a pretty good GM in Minnesota. It was probably time for a change in the end, he'd been there 10 years, but I think they generally had solid rosters during that period. I was just trying to anticipate critics who might mention both Spielman and Tannebaum were fired in the end. But I agree. And there's this, too. Woody hired The 33rd Team which just recently expanded into the Executive Search business. I don't know who at The 33rd Team will be involved in executive search, but the following folks work for The 33rd Team: Tannebaum, Spielman, Chuck Pagano, Jay Gruden, Mike Martz, Dave Wannstedt, Jeff Diamond, Joe Banner, and others. There's a lot of collective wisdom there. I'm sure they can ably identify and vet candidates which is what Woody is paying them to do. 1 Quote
Logic Posted November 26 Posted November 26 As long as Woody Johnson is owner of the New York Jets, they will continue to be a laughingstock. He is a truly bad owner. Meddlesome, impatient, and impulsive. I hope that Woody Johnson continues to own the New York Jets until his dying day, at age 120. 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 26 Posted November 26 20 hours ago, frostbitmic said: OK, They can end their search, I'll do it. HC - Doug Marrone ... It's his dream job so he'll be great OC - Nathaniel Hackett ... A A Ron will be happy DC - Rex Ryan ... It's on baby QB - Aaron Rodgers ... A new 3 year 150M fully guaranteed contract EJ Manuel never had a chance. 😞 1 1 Quote
L Ron Burgundy Posted November 26 Posted November 26 1 hour ago, Logic said: As long as Woody Johnson is owner of the New York Jets, they will continue to be a laughingstock. He is a truly bad owner. Meddlesome, impatient, and impulsive. I hope that Woody Johnson continues to own the New York Jets until his dying day, at age 120. It's usually bs when people complain about owners I think. Not the case with the Jets. Woody is a problem for them. I hope he lives forever. Quote
Malazan Posted November 26 Posted November 26 (edited) The Jets hired Tannebaum's 33rd team which hired Adam Gase. So the fired GM and HC are now part of the team advising the Jets on their search for a GM and HC Edited November 26 by Malazan 1 1 Quote
dpberr Posted November 26 Posted November 26 I won't be surprised to see this firm become the GM at the end of the process. I think that's the emerging trend - a firm running the FO, not just one executive. Why have one GM when you can have a group of GMs apply their experience and connections? Quote
ALLinALLEN Posted November 26 Posted November 26 Tannebaum x Spielman are being brought in for their experience and connections in the league - not their success. If you're an owner and looking for your next GM you want people who are connected doing the interviews/etc., and these guys check that box. Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted November 26 Posted November 26 21 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: What an absolute joke. This is why Woody Johnson's Jests are truly one of the laughingstocks of the league. I don't think that we will have to worry about the Jets threatening us or any of the other two teams in our division for a long, long time. I am simply flabbergasted and yet very thankful Woody is a terrible owner. "The franchise announced Monday that The 33rd Team, a football media, analytics and consulting group founded by former Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum, will assist team owner Woody Johnson in the searches. Tannenbaum and Rick Spielman, former GM of the Miami Dolphins and Minnesota Vikings, will be The 33rd Team’s primary representatives in helping find replacements for former coach Robert Saleh and GM Joe Douglas." https://apnews.com/article/jets-tannenbaum-spielman-f0196533104605d66878c9b030dbd15a Didn’t Terry Pegula receive assistance from an outside entity in his coaching and maybE GM search? Was that a joke too? Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 27 Author Posted November 27 5 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Didn’t Terry Pegula receive assistance from an outside entity in his coaching and maybE GM search? Was that a joke too? It wasn't Tannenbaum or Spielman, now was it? 1 Quote
RunTheBall Posted November 27 Posted November 27 Zero percent chance Ben Johnson those to that sht show in NJ. He had his pick of jobs last year and stayed put. He’s too smart to put himself at the helm of a perennial dumpster fire franchise with one of the worst owners in the NFL. Woody brought those guys in to try and give the job some legitimacy because NO ONE is going to the Jets unless you are grabbing a division 2 college coach 1 Quote
SoTier Posted November 27 Posted November 27 10 hours ago, dpberr said: I won't be surprised to see this firm become the GM at the end of the process. I think that's the emerging trend - a firm running the FO, not just one executive. Why have one GM when you can have a group of GMs apply their experience and connections? You are suggesting a "GM by committee" structure for the FO with the committee being employed by an outside entity. That -- turning corporate control over to employees of another corporation -- doesn't seem a good business model for any enterprise to me, and especially for an NFL team, which involves a relatively small number of employees at the upper levels. Are any NFL franchises currently employing a firm to run their FO? Quote
DCofNC Posted November 27 Posted November 27 Say what you want, but I’ll give Johnson credit for recognizing he isn’t the best person to make the decision and seeking advice. The question will be, will any legitimate candidates be willing to walk into the dumpster fire and try to make it work? They do have a pretty talented roster, but QB is a major problem. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted November 27 Posted November 27 On 11/25/2024 at 4:15 PM, EasternOHBillsFan said: What an absolute joke. This is why Woody Johnson's Jests are truly one of the laughingstocks of the league. I don't think that we will have to worry about the Jets threatening us or any of the other two teams in our division for a long, long time. I am simply flabbergasted and yet very thankful Woody is a terrible owner. "The franchise announced Monday that The 33rd Team, a football media, analytics and consulting group founded by former Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum, will assist team owner Woody Johnson in the searches. Tannenbaum and Rick Spielman, former GM of the Miami Dolphins and Minnesota Vikings, will be The 33rd Team’s primary representatives in helping find replacements for former coach Robert Saleh and GM Joe Douglas." https://apnews.com/article/jets-tannenbaum-spielman-f0196533104605d66878c9b030dbd15a It's actually insane they haven't found a solid coach or gm by accident at this point. They need to fade their own picks 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 27 Posted November 27 21 hours ago, Logic said: As long as Woody Johnson is owner of the New York Jets, they will continue to be a laughingstock. He is a truly bad owner. Meddlesome, impatient, and impulsive. I hope that Woody Johnson continues to own the New York Jets until his dying day, at age 120. Dear Sirs, In light of this assessment, I am relinquishing control of the New York Jets, and volunteering my services to Starfleet as a starship captain patrolling the Federation-Romulan Empire border. Yours truly, Woodrow T. Johnson 1 Quote
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