These Amari Cooper quotes after the Chiefs game…it really IS special playing here…

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

I didn’t say the master plan was to trade for a guy like cooper…… but put words into my mouth and pretend that I said that, per usual.  I said trading for a WR was always waiting in the wings.  I never said trading for a WR1 was always the plan either.  I said trading for “a WR”.  While I didn’t say it, I meant a boundary WR that can make plays outside.  I didn’t insinuate in any manner that Beane had planned on trading for a WR1.  

 

Cooper was the cheapest- we got him.  There were other options- Hopkins, Slayton (I had my eye on him since the day we traded Diggs).   
 

end results- beane landed a WR1.  One with little cap hit.  One that every other team in the league could’ve traded for…. But didn’t because Beane got him.  But cry about the offseason.  The offseason in which he built a roster that is currently 9-2 and beat the chiefs again. 

 

which WR1 did you want him to sign post Diggs trade?  

I wanted him to sign Darnell Mooney pre and post Diggs trade. You’re welcome to go look it up.

 

I am glad Beane made the call to trade for Cooper. It was a great deal and he gets credit for it. It was also an obvious need in August, much to the chagrin of the usual suspects who are acting like it was part of Beane’s idea to address the position from the start (most of whom were arguing all offseason that the WR’s were fine, that little irony shouldn’t be lost on anyone.)

 

Bottom line, I don’t believe Beane “planned” to trade for any WR. I think he misjudged the room. I think he was wrong and quickly rectified his mistake. That happens all the time, but he was still wrong, and the folks who thought he was right were wrong as well.

 

He’s still an NFL GM. He knows a lot of football but he can be wrong. He can also be right about a guy like Bernard, who I think virtually everyone on the board hated. We won’t turn into stone if we admit the WR group in August wasn’t up to snuff.

[Matt_In_NH]

18 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I'm right there with you hoping the FO values top tier WRs.

I would like them to re-sign Cooper.  However I think there is a general overall over valuing of WR's.  NFL teams do it, fans do it, the morning WGR show does it more than anyone.  In fact their talking point this week was how the Bills will have the best set of weapons of the AFC playoff teams....which goes against everything they have been lobbying for.  They even admitted two probably non playoff teams, the Bengals and Dolphins would have better weapons but they are not making the playoffs.  Is that not at least some level of evidence that that is not the best/only way to build a winner?

[Einstein's Dog]

29 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

I would like them to re-sign Cooper.  However I think there is a general overall over valuing of WR's.  NFL teams do it, fans do it, the morning WGR show does it more than anyone.  In fact their talking point this week was how the Bills will have the best set of weapons of the AFC playoff teams....which goes against everything they have been lobbying for.  They even admitted two probably non playoff teams, the Bengals and Dolphins would have better weapons but they are not making the playoffs.  Is that not at least some level of evidence that that is not the best/only way to build a winner?

I agree it is tough to get value on WRs.  The contracts seem to be getting over the top - J Jeff/St Brown/T Hill getting into the $50M range seems too much.

 

But I also believe the Bills O really goes up a level with a top tier WR.  Having an A Cooper that defenses need to account for opens up the hands crew underneath, Shakir/Kincaid/Cook.

[HardyBoy]

On 11/23/2024 at 12:05 AM, Special K said:

Can't wait to see Cooper, Coleman, Kincaid, Shakir and a healthy Samuel on the field at the same time.....that's an arsenal that Josh Allen can lead all the way to the Superb Owl!!

 

Go Bills!!

 

I want a Superb Owl so freaking bad now!!!

[BADOLBILZ]

56 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I wanted him to sign Darnell Mooney pre and post Diggs trade. You’re welcome to go look it up.

 

I am glad Beane made the call to trade for Cooper. It was a great deal and he gets credit for it. It was also an obvious need in August, much to the chagrin of the usual suspects who are acting like it was part of Beane’s idea to address the position from the start (most of whom were arguing all offseason that the WR’s were fine, that little irony shouldn’t be lost on anyone.)

 

Bottom line, I don’t believe Beane “planned” to trade for any WR. I think he misjudged the room. I think he was wrong and quickly rectified his mistake. That happens all the time, but he was still wrong, and the folks who thought he was right were wrong as well.

 

He’s still an NFL GM. He knows a lot of football but he can be wrong. He can also be right about a guy like Bernard, who I think virtually everyone on the board hated. We won’t turn into stone if we admit the WR group in August wasn’t up to snuff.

 

 

The people who NOW think that trading for a WR1 at midseason was the plan all along(despite paying MVS and believing in Chase Claypool) presume that Beane knew that teams with veteran, pending free agent type veteran WR1's were definitely going to be in sell mode in October.    You can't predict that.    Cincy has been buried in the playoff race all season and they were never going to trade Higgins or Chase before the deadline.   Cleveland made the playoffs last year and Vegas had them at 8.5W for over under.   I can go on.   It very well could have turned out like the trade deadlines where there were so few options that Beane couldn't get his man.

 

But as I said this summer........the thing I knew for certain about this WR corps was that Beane would be desperately looking to trade for a WR1 type in October.   It was an absolute no doubter.

[Simon]

16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The people who NOW think that trading for a WR1 at midseason was the plan all along(despite paying MVS and believing in Chase Claypool) presume that Beane knew that teams with veteran, pending free agent type veteran WR1's were definitely going to be in sell mode in October.    You can't predict that.    Cincy has been buried in the playoff race all season and they were never going to trade Higgins or Chase before the deadline.   Cleveland made the playoffs last year and Vegas had them at 8.5W for over under.   I can go on.   It very well could have turned out like the trade deadlines where there were so few options that Beane couldn't get his man.

 

But as I said this summer........the thing I knew for certain about this WR corps was that Beane would be desperately looking to trade for a WR1 type in October.   It was an absolute no doubter.

 

I'll never understand the MVS foolishness; that was Kelvin Benjamin level dumbassery right there. Claypool, as a legit talent possibly realizing this was his last chance to make real money in this league was a viable plan B, imo.

As for October sellers, it doesn't take a huge leap of faith to believe that Will Levis, Gardner Minshew and Destupid Watson were going to have their teams in position to sell assets before the deadline.