BADOLBILZ Posted November 23 Posted November 23 If you need leadership and a guy who raises the compete level of your team Cooper ain't it. In the wrong situation(like Cleveland was) that can make him a loser's loser. He'll just go out and do his job well but he ain't going to be any help changing a losing culture and if he is the 2nd or 3rd highest paid guy on the team you gotta' have some leadership from that dude because players are going to look up to that big money. And you aren't winning with a locker room full of players who don't find joy in winning from week to week. But in a situation like Buffalo he can be ideal. They are already very good, the culture is established and they don't need an alpha. They just need a guy who can do what he does on the field. He is making very little money from the Bills now and if he were to re-sign for a Hopkins type deal in the offseason that wouldn't necessitate more than just doing his job. 11 7 Quote
Special K Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Can't wait to see Cooper, Coleman, Kincaid, Shakir and a healthy Samuel on the field at the same time.....that's an arsenal that Josh Allen can lead all the way to the Superb Owl!! Go Bills!! 5 1 Quote
gordong Posted November 23 Posted November 23 6 hours ago, Allen Josh said: I’d like to get his opinion after this brutal winter. yeah these last two months have been horrible. Winter is already 2 months shorter. 1 Quote
Utah John Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Summers in Buffalo are glorious but unfortunately Cooper came in just when the weather was turning to *****, so that's what his impression will be. Now he'll have to endure week after week of cold and rain or snow, and then....winter sets in. Here's hoping the joy the team brings to his soul, outweighs the displeasure the weather brings to his body, and he eagerly signs up for a team friendly contract extension. 1 1 Quote
Utah John Posted November 23 Posted November 23 5 hours ago, Special K said: Can't wait to see Cooper, Coleman, Kincaid, Shakir and a healthy Samuel on the field at the same time.....that's an arsenal that Josh Allen can lead all the way to the Superb Owl!! Go Bills!! You left out Hollins, who seems to make at least one critical catch every game. Also Knox who stepped back up with Kincaid out against the Chiefs. There's a potential problem, a good problem but a problem anyway, that the Bills have too many B+ to A- receivers, so not everyone gets to have a big game every game. Same thing with RBs, where Cook looks great but here comes Davis, playing so well he demands to be on the field, and then Johnson is playing very well too. None of the receivers is Justin Jefferson, and none of the RBs is Derrick Henry, and they can't all be on the field at the same time. Just gotta ask, though -- is the Superb Owl a new bar on Chippewa? Nice of Josh to take all the receivers there. And I really like owls so I like the name... 3 Quote
Billy Claude Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Didn't Cooper pretty much say the same thing after an earlier game? Quote
Billsatlastin2018 Posted November 23 Posted November 23 7 hours ago, Captain_Quint said: Looks disinterested. 100%! That was the dart thrown over top of Chiefs defender. Did I see this right? Did he just haul that in with one hand? YES, HE DID! 2 Quote
Buffalo Junction Posted November 23 Posted November 23 39 minutes ago, Utah John said: Summers in Buffalo are glorious but unfortunately Cooper came in just when the weather was turning to *****, so that's what his impression will be. Now he'll have to endure week after week of cold and rain or snow, and then....winter sets in. Here's hoping the joy the team brings to his soul, outweighs the displeasure the weather brings to his body, and he eagerly signs up for a team friendly contract extension. After losing in Cleveland he’s likely used to rust belt weather and apathy in the locker room. The way the community bonds around this team is extremely additive for a lot of these guys. As a pro it’s a positive experience you can really only get in Buffalo and Green Bay. Add in JA17, and Buffalo is a unique experience that a quieter guy like Cooper probably really enjoys and appreciates. 4 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted November 23 Posted November 23 13 hours ago, eball said: “This is the first time in like a long time that I’ve actually felt joy from winning this game,” Cooper said, “from just the way we played, from having so many guys on the team who are playmakers, and they come up and they show up when their number is called. Collectively as a group, it’s just amazing.” “It’s kind of a different place, too, Buffalo, compared to some of the other places I’ve been to. It’s a tight-knit group I would say. A lot of the guys go out together. They hang around each other 24/7, and it truly shows up on the field. It truly does.” “When you’re a kid and you’re dreaming of football, this is the stage you dream about,” Cooper said. “You don’t really dream about the games that aren’t meaningful. You’re dreaming about the meaningful games against the best teams. And so we were in it. It doesn’t come around that often, especially if you aren’t on a very good team. Any player who’s been in this league a long time, most of the guys haven’t always been on good teams. It’s just how it swings in this league.” “The Josh Allen experience, with this magnitude, it’s been phenomenal, man,” Cooper said. “Like I said before, he’s a great player. The old adage ‘Big-time players make big-time plays in big-time situations,’ and that’s exactly what he did.” “It kind of reminded me of – I was going to tell my friend this after the game – it’s like Little League, Pop Warner,” Cooper said. “It’s a Florida thing; it’s a Florida experience. But when you win the championship, you have to go up the road on your way to winning the national championship. And when you go up the road, the fans get crazier and crazier. I mean, they put rocks in glass bottles and shake them up, and everybody collectively gets so loud, and that’s what it reminded me of for some reason. But, yeah, the environment is phenomenal, for sure.” wow for a quiet reserved introvert, that was quite a reveal .. McBeanes just keep bringing in the right guys (Cooper) and ditching the malcontents (eg. Mike Edwards) Gotta love whats going on at OBD Quote
Captain_Quint Posted November 23 Posted November 23 4 hours ago, Utah John said: Summers in Buffalo are glorious but unfortunately Cooper came in just when the weather was turning to *****, so that's what his impression will be. Now he'll have to endure week after week of cold and rain or snow, and then....winter sets in. Here's hoping the joy the team brings to his soul, outweighs the displeasure the weather brings to his body, and he eagerly signs up for a team friendly contract extension. Just wait until the first airport welcome home. That seems to energize the players enough to make them forget about some of the snow and ice. Quote
Sweats Posted November 23 Posted November 23 I love Cooper and hope our FO will retain him for next season + Quote
Mister Defense Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) On 11/22/2024 at 11:53 PM, BADOLBILZ said: If you need leadership and a guy who raises the compete level of your team Cooper ain't it. In the wrong situation(like Cleveland was) that can make him a loser's loser. He'll just go out and do his job well but he ain't going to be any help changing a losing culture and if he is the 2nd or 3rd highest paid guy on the team you gotta' have some leadership from that dude because players are going to look up to that big money. And you aren't winning with a locker room full of players who don't find joy in winning from week to week. But in a situation like Buffalo he can be ideal. They are already very good, the culture is established and they don't need an alpha. They just need a guy who can do what he does on the field. He is making very little money from the Bills now and if he were to re-sign for a Hopkins type deal in the offseason that wouldn't necessitate more than just doing his job. This is the kind of post and poster I was referencing in my previous post in this thread. One of the all time dumbest hate posts ever, and that is saying a lot. That first paragraph is nonsense, a crazy opinion with nothing to back it up it at all. And so he is just bashing Cooper because of irrational hate for all things Bills/Beane/McDermott. Clear proof of that when one just looks at the facts. Thank goodness the vast majority of Bills' fans do that instead... He says In Cleveland Cooper was a "loser's loser"--a comically stupid statement, and not backed up, of course, because there s nothing to back it up. Instead of being a "loser's loser, Cooper was quite the winner, by anyone's standard who has a spec of objectivity, sense, or logic. In 2022: 78 receptions 1160 yards 14.9 yards per catch 9 TDs 61 first downs, with 78% of his catches first downs, 18 catches for 20+ yards, and 4 for 40+ And then in 2023, Cooper was even more of a loser than in 2022, somehow a bigger loser than he was in 2022, if that is possible: 2023: 72 receptions 1250 yards 17.4 yards per catch 5 TDs, 50 of his catches for first downs, 69%, 21 catches of 20+ yards, and 8 of 40+ yards. A Pro Bowl year, of course. By the poster's unique standards, I will pray every night that next year, his first full year with the Bills, Cooper is an even bigger loser in 2025 than he was in 2023. I am urging all posters on this board to do this as well: "Please make Amari Cooper an even bigger loser next year in Buffalo than he was in Cleveland." If this is how a loser is defined, and according to the poster, the ultimate loser, a "loser's loser", than I want me some more of this kind of loser--and at every single position on this team, every one. It makes one wonder, how the heck would the poster define a winner?? I am assuming what happened was Cooper's words after the game, some presented here nicely by the OP, just sent this guy over the edge: how dare he say those things? How can I even think of bashing him now? Oh, I'll do this.... Edited November 25 by Mister Defense 3 Quote
Blackbeard Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Night and day difference in attitude and appreciation with Diggs. Glad Amari is a Bill. 4 1 1 Quote
starrymessenger Posted November 23 Posted November 23 16 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: This is the kind of post and poster I was referencing in my previous post in this thread. One of the all time dumbest hate posts ever, and that is saying a lot. That first paragraph is nonsense, a crazy opinion with nothing to back it up it at all. And so he is just bashing Cooper because of irrational hate for all things Bills/Beane/McDermott. Clear proof of that when one just looks at the facts. Thank goodness the vast majority of Bills' fans do that instead... He says In Cleveland Cooper was a "loser's loser"--a comically stupid statement, and not backed up, of course, because there s nothing to back it up. Instead of being a "loser's loser, Cooper was quite the winner, by anyone's standard who has a spec of objectivity, sense, or logic. In 2022: 78 receptions 1160 yards 14.9 yards per catch 9 TDs 61 first downs, with 78% of his catches first downs, 18 catches for 20+ yards, and 4 for 40+ And then in 2023, Cooper was even more of a loser than in 2022, somehow a bigger loser than he was in 2022, if that is possible: 2023: 72 receptions 1250 yards 17.4 yards per catch 5 TDs, 50 of his catches for first downs, 69%, 21 catches of 20+ yards, and 8 of 40+ yards. A Pro Bowl year, of course. If this is how a loser is defined, and according to the poster, the ultimate loser, a "loser's loser", than I want me some more of this kind of loser--and at every single position on this team, every one. It makes one wonder, how the heck would the poster define a winner?? I am assuming what happened was Cooper's words after the game, some presented her nicely by the OP, just sent this guy over the edge: how dare he say those things? How can I even think of bashing him now? Oh, I'll do this.... I don't think he was putting Cooper down, just pointing out that his personality type is such that you probably can't look to him as having the intangibles of a team leader and assuming that mantra. He doesn't have Josh Allen's personality and you absolutely need those intangibles from a few players on both sides of the ball on any championship team. But not everyone is wired the same way. Usually you look to leadership qualities as an important component of your QBs psyche but even here there can be exceptions. Eli Manning was a very good QB and a competitor who was sometimes criticized, even by teammates, for not showing enthousiasme. What Cooper can do, has always done, is execute his responsibilities at a high level. We don't need more leaders but we absolutely do need what Amari Cooper can do. 3 3 Quote
finn Posted November 23 Posted November 23 12 hours ago, Bruffalo said: 50,000 drunks with weighted projectiles doesn't sound like the best idea to me. The NFL thought throwing snowballs and adult toys on the field was bad enough, if everyone had rocks and bottles you'd need the opposing team to wear riot gear. I was kidding, but you're right. I wouldn't hand out batteries or lacrosse balls to an NFL crowd, either. Quote
T master Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) If a guy like this that has been around the league in many different team situations says the things like he has about being here 🤔 that says something about how different it is here !!! GO BILLS !!! Edited November 23 by T master 1 1 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted November 23 Posted November 23 6 hours ago, Utah John said: Summers in Buffalo are glorious but unfortunately Cooper came in just when the weather was turning to *****, so that's what his impression will be. Now he'll have to endure week after week of cold and rain or snow, and then....winter sets in. Here's hoping the joy the team brings to his soul, outweighs the displeasure the weather brings to his body, and he eagerly signs up for a team friendly contract extension. Hoping for this myself. Then hoping the Bills maybe package a trade up for a game wrecking defensive lineman. It would cool if Amari or one of the young building block guys signed an extension during the bye😎. Don't make me check myself before I wreck myself 😆🤣😂 Quote
Special K Posted November 23 Posted November 23 6 hours ago, Utah John said: Just gotta ask, though -- is the Superb Owl a new bar on Chippewa? Nice of Josh to take all the receivers there. And I really like owls so I like the name... Although it would be a good name for a bar or a band, I started calling the Super Bowl the Superb Owl as a joke after this happened about 10 years ago: Quote
DaggersEOD Posted November 23 Posted November 23 13 hours ago, Captain_Quint said: Looks disinterested. Couldn’t even be bothered to use both hands LAZY! And look at those eyes. Those are, “should I just go ahead and get 2 gallons of milk” eyes if I’ve ever seen them. Clearly no focus. 🤣 Hope we keep him 3 Quote
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