Giants are releasing QB Daniel Jones (future backup to Josh Allen)

[chongli]

1 hour ago, Charles Romes said:

I called it. See page 1

 

You indeed did! Here is the post:

 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

So, what do we call 'Danny Dimes' now?  Ole Olson?  Big Swede?  Kenny Krona?

 

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

 

His new life as a clipboard holder, safer than standing behind his former O-line…, 

[JP51]

2 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Don't totally understand signing with the Vikings. I mean, I'd assume he wants to start at some point right? If Darnold keeps playing well, what then? 

I think he probably is looking for a mix of.... want a legit shot at the Superbowl and want a legit shot at starting... Clearly, coming here is isnt gonna start over Allen, Darnold is on a short term deal, he probably has a better shot at starting there next year than any other legit playoff team... maybe the Steelers... but I think Fields is gonna get a chance at somepoint... plus he gets to play with Jefferson.

[zow2]

11 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Don't totally understand signing with the Vikings. I mean, I'd assume he wants to start at some point right? If Darnold keeps playing well, what then? 

 

Not only that,  the Vikes really like JJ and he might even bump Darnold outta there. Not sure where Jones fits in, other then to give them an insurance policy for this season.

[jkeerie]

37 minutes ago, eball said:

Minnesota is a good spot for him with that coaching staff.  He needs to learn a structured system in which to operate if he has a chance to re-boot his career.

 

 

Kevin O'Connell revived Darnold's career.  Likely Jones sees that and envisions the same for his own.  

[JP51]

5 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

Kevin O'Connell revived Darnold's career.  Likely Jones sees that and envisions the same for his own.  

This is a superb point

[Captain Hindsight]

7 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

Kevin O'Connell revived Darnold's career.  Likely Jones sees that and envisions the same for his own.  

Yeah I thought SF would be a good option, but the Vikes make sense too 

[boco357]

A  Viking note about the Diggs trade draft pick.Who would have bet Minnesota had a better record than Houston at this point?

[mannc]

3 hours ago, Steptide said:

 

Practice squad, not the 53

[PromoTheRobot]

Wouldn't you rather have a Josh-Allen style QB as a backup? Someone who can use his legs?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Wouldn't you rather have a Josh-Allen style QB as a backup? Someone who can use his legs?

No, give me Rosen.  Obviously smarter than the average quarterback. 
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[Beck Water]

5 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

Although Jones will be positioned to back up Darnold, NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport, Tom Pelissero and Cameron Wolfe note this will first be a practice squad agreement.
 

Drinking the Kool-Aid @BillsFanForever19

 

That surprises me, but OK, I'm wrong.

[JohnNord]

When you have 3 QB’s…. You don’t have 1

[Doc Brown]

14 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I'd pry go to Minnesota to back up Sam Darnold and then maybe McCarthy next year.  The 49ers also make sense given Purdy's shoulder issue.  Both great offensive minds as head coach.

Glad he followed my advice.

[Buffalo716]

8 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Wouldn't you rather have a Josh-Allen style QB as a backup? Someone who can use his legs?

He is honestly more of a runner 

 

His arm is not worth a damn but he runs 

 

He's gone for over 2,000 yards in his career for 30 plus yards a game... He is a runner

[BillsShredder83]

On 11/23/2024 at 11:00 AM, Beck Water said:

 

Living in St Louis, I got the inside scoop on the Bradford story.  And Bradford kind of gets a bad rap.  TL;DR inept coaching and untimely injuries derailed him.

 

Yeah, he was the last Super-highly paid rookie who hadn't proven his NFL worth.  But you can't blame him for that, it was the system at the time, and I truly believe Bradford was one reason teams pressed for that change.

 

OK, Bradford year 1.  Looked pretty decent under Steve Spagnuolo with Pat Shurmur as his OC.  Keep in mind as HC, Shurmur also made Daniel Jones look pretty decent his rookie year.  Too many INTs, but that's not uncommon for a rookie QB.  Keep in mind the Rams were a terrible, no good, very bad team in 2009 (1-15) and with Bradford, they were actually a final game loss away from the playoffs!

 

Bradford year 2.  Spagnuolo loses Pat Shurmur to be HC of the Cleveland Browns and hires.......Josh McDaniel, who was just booted out as HC of Denver.  It was horrible.  McDaniel of course installed his super-complex and totally different terminology E-P offense.  Now I grant that the Rams were still fundamentally a bad team who over-performed the previous season, but Bradford looked inept, totally inept.  But he looked promising his rookie season!  Was it Bradford, or was it McDaniel?  Bradford also missed 6 games with injuries and ended on IR.

 

Bradford year 3.  Jeff Fisher takes over as HC, and hires Brian Schottenheimer as OC.  Keep in mind that Schottenheimer was a guy who made Sanchez look OK.  So once again, Bradford looks promising.  He looks like he can play in the NFL.  He delivers enough QB performance that a team could win with him.  But at this point, the guy has had 3 different offensive systems and 3 different OCs in 3 years.

Bradford year 4. 2nd year with Schottenheimer.  Bradford finally looks like he might live up to his billing and be what the Rams hoped.  First 7 games, he's hitting 70% completion at times, he's thrown 14 TD to 3 INTs - really looks good.  Then, he tears his ACL and goes on IR.

 

Bradford year 5.  Lost season.  Bradford re-tears same ACL in preseason game, and he's Done with the Rams.

 

So yeah, the Rams didn't get their money's worth out of Bradford, but IMO it was largely a self-inflicted wound combined with some bad injury luck.

 

With the Eagles, they re-united Bradford with Pat Shurmur and he played pretty well once he flaked the rust off.  But, they fell in love with Carson Wentz and kicked Bradford to the curb, so he asked to be traded.

 

With the Vikes, again with Shurmur, Bradford played well until his knee gave out on him and Keenum took over.

 

 

I don't remember a TSW campaign?  But I do remember a game where Daboll was seen SCREAMING at Josh on the sideline after an interception

Reportedly Allen had a deep conversation with Beane and McDermott after that game, where he made promises to them to change his ways (this is by Allen's account).  But the very next week, Daboll moved to the booth and never moved down, so there may have been some "what can we do to support you better?" discussion on their side as well.

With Dorsey, the players had a campaign to put him in the booth, and after the Miami loss we saw why.

I wish I had more to say but that was a highly enjoyable read! He does get a bad rap but i don't blame him one bit, and sincerely wanted him so bad. Through the lense of Josh, wanting Bradford is funny in retrospect.... but at the time kid was the project I hoped we could fix. He had a spark but injuries didn't help. Great college qb, not cut out as a starting nfl qb.... no shade from me lol 

 

Dude seemed like he wanted to really make it happen,  but just wasn't cracked out to be top 32 in the world. Even "bums" at the bottom of a roster were likely good in college and *elite* in HS. Wish I'd seen his college days though

[BillsShredder83]

Random Josh Related Post not worthy of a thread:

 

I went back to watch Josh s first episode on Pardon My Take, from around the Combine.

 

He's the semi goofy, smiley kid we all know, but you could really see such a huge evolution of his confidence since then. It's a different human being now all together, very sharpened polished human. I forgot what his draft and rookie season vibes felt like. 

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

16 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

He is honestly more of a runner 

 

His arm is not worth a damn but he runs 

 

He's gone for over 2,000 yards in his career for 30 plus yards a game... He is a runner

 

I was thinking more like Justin Fields.

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I was thinking more like Justin Fields.

Well yeah but Fields is going to go to teams where I suspect he has a chance to win the job for most of his career 

 

I don't think he wants to sit on the bench