Giants are releasing QB Daniel Jones (future backup to Josh Allen)

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

He is truly terrible. I live an hour from MetLife I never saw a guy get more undeserved chances or more excuses made for him. From day 1 he sucked and somehow it only got worse. Never should have been taken anywhere near where he was and after several years, still no clue what he’s looking at. Think EJ Manuel but then somehow getting 6 years and an inexcusable big money extension lol Growing up around here and being a Bills fan I absolutely loved seeing it. Any team dumb enough to even waste a roster spot on him will instantly regret it.

[Thurman#1]

On 11/23/2024 at 1:41 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

spat out his pacifier? Is that what you'd call it? The thing you give a baby to suck?

 

Spat his dummy, means thrown a childish tantrum essentially. 

 

Yea, he spat his dummy. 

 

 

Dummy is pacifier? Got it now. Thanks.

 

He confused me too with that one.

[Sierra Foothills]

On 11/22/2024 at 8:42 AM, Steptide said:

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

ChatGPT

 

 

10 hours ago, Beast said:

He has Indianapolis written all over him.

 

 Six vowels and six consonants... sounds like writer's cramp for whoever did the writing.

 

[C.Biscuit97]

On 11/22/2024 at 12:53 PM, dave mcbride said:

I guess I'd go with possibly Raiders giving Jeff George 5 years/26 million in the mid-1990s. That was real money back then.

Stat wise, George had the far better career. He was having better passing seasons in the 90s than Jones is having today where it’s never been easier to put up bigger passing numbers. 
https://stathead.com/football/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=JoneDa05&player_id1=GeorJe00&request=1&utm_source=pfr&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_id=GeorJe00&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison

 

Jones is a really bad passing qb. 

11 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

He is truly terrible. I live an hour from MetLife I never saw a guy get more undeserved chances or more excuses made for him. From day 1 he sucked and somehow it only got worse. Never should have been taken anywhere near where he was and after several years, still no clue what he’s looking at. Think EJ Manuel but then somehow getting 6 years and an inexcusable big money extension lol Growing up around here and being a Bills fan I absolutely loved seeing it. Any team dumb enough to even waste a roster spot on him will instantly regret it.

EJ got like 10 games and had a better start to his career than Jones while having Nate Hackett as 1st time nfl OC and his qb coach!!! He got benched in his 2nd year at 2-2 with 5 tds and 3 ints. 
 

more qbs are ruined than developed in the nfl. So I get not moving on too quick. But imagine if you’re Saquon struggling to get $10 million while taking handoffs from Jones making $40. 

[dave mcbride]

10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Stat wise, George had the far better career. He was having better passing seasons in the 90s than Jones is having today where it’s never been easier to put up bigger passing numbers. 
https://stathead.com/football/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=JoneDa05&player_id1=GeorJe00&request=1&utm_source=pfr&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_id=GeorJe00&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison

 

Jones is a really bad passing qb. 

EJ got like 10 games and had a better start to his career than Jones while having Nate Hackett as 1st time nfl OC and his qb coach!!! He got benched in his 2nd year at 2-2 with 5 tds and 3 ints. 
 

more qbs are ruined than developed in the nfl. So I get not moving on too quick. But imagine if you’re Saquon struggling to get $10 million while taking handoffs from Jones making $40. 

With regard to George, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. That first season where he had 29 TDs and 9 INTs, he was actually awful. He was a sack magnet and consistently crumbled in the stretch run of games. The Raiders went 4-12 that season and were done with him before the midway point of the second season of his contract.  Gruden had come in and quickly discovered that George couldn’t — and didn’t want to — run his offense, so they shifted to Gannon and George was out.
 

I will say that played pretty well for MN in 1999. But that was not on the Raiders contract and the Vikings were done with him after just that one season.

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

With regard to George, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. That first season where he had 29 TDs and 9 INTs, he was actually awful. He was a sack magnet and consistently crumbled in the stretch run of games. The Raiders went 4-12 that season and were done with him before the midway point of the second season of his contract.  Gruden had come in and quickly discovered that George couldn’t — and didn’t want to — run his offense, so they shifted to Gannon and George was out.
 

I will say that played pretty well for MN in 1999. But that was not on the Raiders contract and the Vikings were done with him after just that one season.

I was really young for that time so I’ll defer to you. But I would say based on numbers, he was asked to do more than Jones. Jones was a glorified game manger whose best ability might be running. But is he ever really elevating a team? Such a bad contract. 

[davefan66]

Someone will take a flier on him. Doubt he is a waiver pickup based on contract as he is owed 11 million for the remainder of the year.  When he clears waivers, he’ll be able to go where he wants.

 

Bills will want nothing to do with him.  
 

Maybe Indianapolis?  My dark horse is the Niners.

[BillsFanForever19]

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

20 hours ago, Beast said:

He has Indianapolis written all over him.

 

20 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

Why?

Irsay needs a new 'mule'.  New guy can fly under the radar. 

[Simon]

I don't know why a playoff contender would be interested.

He's not going to show up in Week 13 and grasp the offense better than anybody's current backup.

[BillsFanForever19]

4 hours ago, Simon said:

I don't know why a playoff contender would be interested.

He's not going to show up in Week 13 and grasp the offense better than anybody's current backup.

 

I'd think it's more for insurance for Weeks 15-18 and into the playoffs. If i'm the Ravens for example - i'd take Daniel Jones' talent on a couple weeks with the playbook and maybe a truncated offense over Josh Johnson's full grasp of the playbook, if something were to happen to Lamar.

Edited November 25 by BillsFanForever19

[DCofNC]

On 11/23/2024 at 6:33 PM, Beck Water said:

 

Yours is certainly a defendable POV.

 

I think Jones has the potential to be better than Mayfield - better physical tools, better ability to run.  But I think Jones needs the right pieces around him and the right coach more than Mayfield does.

I could see it, just haven’t seen Jones really take it up a level, but he has been working out of a dumpster fire.

[Mike in Horseheads]

They did so well today without him...  https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42590210/giants-players-call-team-soft-question-effort-loss

[Beck Water]

6 hours ago, Simon said:

I don't know why a playoff contender would be interested.

He's not going to show up in Week 13 and grasp the offense better than anybody's current backup.

 

the 49ers might be interested, depending upon what they think is going on with Purdy.

I would say from what I saw tonight, Brandon Allen's grasp on the 49ers offense isn't linked to any actual ability to execute as an NFL QB.

[JerseyBills]

Will be a reality soon

 

 

[ganesh]

10 hours ago, Simon said:

I don't know why a playoff contender would be interested.

He's not going to show up in Week 13 and grasp the offense better than anybody's current backup.

Because they don't have to pay him anything other than vet minimum.  Rest of his 10.5M are being paid by the Giants.. It is a big insurance backup if your star starter goes down.  

 

Of course, he also could be taking up a starting job in Week 13 for the several teams that have lost their starting QB..,like the Raiders,  possibly the 49ers or replace ineffective starts such as Anthony Richardson with the Colts still in the playoff conversation.

[Mr. WEO]

Imagine getting rid of Barkley so you could pay Jones?

 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

7 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Will be a reality soon

 

 

Gettleman as both interim HC and GM.

🇺🇸

'Making training table allocations fair and equitable for all NY Giant players.'

[Low Positive]

7 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Will be a reality soon

 

 

I think everyone here knows this, but just in case you don't. That's a fake Twitter account. Also, I love the use of the continuous tense. 

[Don Otreply]

16 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Jones must be high, who in their right mind (play off team) is going to sign this guy to see any meaningful playing time? The answer is no-one, the guy is delusional. He will be a backup #2 or 3 QB, if he’s lucky some Chooch team will sign him for mop up duty on their way to a high draft pick,