Giants are releasing QB Daniel Jones (future backup to Josh Allen)

[Beck Water]

5 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Waivers or no?

 

It's my understanding after the trade deadline is passed, every player must go through waivers.

If I'm wrong, I feel very confident that someone will correct me.

[WotAGuy]

7 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

It's my understanding after the trade deadline is passed, every player must go through waivers.

If I'm wrong, I feel very confident that someone will correct me.

Even if you are right, someone will correct you. 

[PonyBoy]

6 hours ago, Steptide said:

Heard on the radio this morning that he's gaurenteed 23 mil if he's injured before the end of the season. If I'm him, I'm breaking a leg in practice. Probably why they let him go 

 

 

Late to the post..

Insert Kevin Kolb bringing a mat to a practice coming soon 😃

6 hours ago, Steptide said:

Heard on the radio this morning that he's gaurenteed 23 mil if he's injured before the end of the season. If I'm him, I'm breaking a leg in practice. Probably why they let him go 

 

 

Late to the post..

Insert Kevin Kolb bringing a mat to a practice coming soon 😃

[PromoTheRobot]

6 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

He's not coming here.  

Mitch is buds with Josh.  That's the top qualification for Bills backup QB.  

How about a backup that won't totally sink the team if they have to play?

[hondo in seattle]

49 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Please tell me that is not true?

 

It's very true.

Can you imagine the feeling?  One week you're a starting NFL QB - if not a very successful one.  The next week you're wearing a red jersey lining up as the scout team safety.

 

www.on3.com/pro/news/report-daniel-jones-spotted-playing-scout-team-safety-new-york-giants-practice/

[vincec]

5 hours ago, Process said:

The scout team safety thing is wild. You have to just release him at that point. 

Why in the world would they do something like that except to humiliate him? Crazy.

[paulmm3]

I think Daniel Jones gets a look as a possible starter from somewhere like Tennessee or Vegas. He's not great but I think he'd be an upgrade at starting QB for Vegas, Tennessee, Carolina, New England, Chicago (not gonna happen), and the Jets. He never got much of a shot behind an OL that wasn't bottom of the league at pass protection.

 

And yeah wtf is with the Giants putting him at practice team safety, that's embarrassing for the Giants

[CA OC Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, paulmm3 said:

I think Daniel Jones gets a look as a possible starter from somewhere like Tennessee or Vegas. He's not great but I think he'd be an upgrade at starting QB for Vegas, Tennessee, Carolina, New England, Chicago (not gonna happen), and the Jets. He never got much of a shot behind an OL that wasn't bottom of the league at pass protection.

 

And yeah wtf is with the Giants putting him at practice team safety, that's embarrassing for the Giants

The article I read said they had him on the scout team at safety but he wasn't allowed to run or make contact so I'm not really sure what the "playing safety" part even means.

 

I also had read (sorry if already stated but I only read the first two pages and the last few posts) that he was told feel free to stay home the rest of the season. The Giants wanted to play him and he wanted to play but the risk of injury guarantees kicking in wouldn't allow for that. They tried to have him waive the injury guarantees, his agent negotiated with the Giants but couldn't come to an agreement. He was willing to waive part but not the entire injury guarantee. It didn't give any indication of how much he was willing to waive.

[bobobonators]

Dallas will sign him

[NewEra]

18 minutes ago, paulmm3 said:

I think Daniel Jones gets a look as a possible starter from somewhere like Tennessee or Vegas. He's not great but I think he'd be an upgrade at starting QB for Vegas, Tennessee, Carolina, New England, Chicago (not gonna happen), and the Jets. He never got much of a shot behind an OL that wasn't bottom of the league at pass protection.

 

And yeah wtf is with the Giants putting him at practice team safety, that's embarrassing for the Giants

I don’t think he’s going to join a bum team.  If we’re him i’d join a good franchise with a good coaching staff and be a backup next season.  Learn.  Improve.  Then hopefully he can apply that the following year, similar to what Baker and Darnold did.

[Beck Water]

7 hours ago, Logic said:

Yeah Jones walked into President Mara's office and asked for his release, a request which Mara granted.

That's about it.

 

I hate to be "that guy", but....source?

Edit: n.mind  
https://www.giants.com/news/statement-from-giants-president-john-mara-on-daniel-jones

Edited Saturday at 01:02 AM by Beck Water

[Beck Water]

23 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I don’t think he’s going to join a bum team.  If we’re him i’d join a good franchise with a good coaching staff and be a backup next season.  Learn.  Improve.  Then hopefully he can apply that the following year, similar to what Baker and Darnold did.

 

He may not have that chance immediately - Mayfield had to Carolina then pay a visit to the Rams before he got a chance at Tampa

Darnold also had to Carolina then pay a visit to SFO before he got a chance in Minn

Geno Smith had to Giants and Charger then sit on the bench for 2 years in Seattle before he got his 2nd chance.

If a team claims Jones off waivers, he's pretty much gotta go

 

And sometimes it doesn't seem to work - see Trubisky, Mitch - he seems to be irrevocably broken

Edited Friday at 11:56 PM by Beck Water

[Freddie's Dead]

7 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

There has never been a player paid more for what little they actually achieved than Jones. 

 

POShaun Watson says hi.

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

He may not have that chance immediately - Mayfield had to Carolina then pay a visit to the Rams before he got a chance at Tampa

Darnold also had to Carolina then pay a visit to SFO before he got a chance in Minn

Geno Smith had to Giants and Charger then sit on the bench for 2 years in Seattle before he got his 2nd chance.

If a team claims Jones off waivers, he's pretty much gotta go

 

And sometimes it doesn't seem to work - see Trubisky, Mitch - he seems to be irrevocably broken

I don’t think there’s even a .01 chance someone claims him. That contract-  the 23m injury kicker.  Would have to be a really dumb team to claim him, alas, there are some dumb teams.

 

I think he ends up in SF.  

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, CA OC Bills Fan said:

The article I read said they had him on the scout team at safety but he wasn't allowed to run or make contact so I'm not really sure what the "playing safety" part even means.

 

It means he was asked to position himself as they anticipate the opponent's safety will in different coverage looks and shift around pre-snap, so that the starting QB practices diagnosing the coverage and what his throw should be, based on the position of the safety.  Otherwise the scout team may lack the personnel to position a safety and an inexperienced QB may fail to build in observing the safety when he's deciding where to go with the ball.

 

There was a time in 2019 when there were clips of Josh taking handoffs in practice and asking the coach "is there a safety over there?".  I think it was after that Davis Webb volunteered to play scout team safety (except he ran and made contact)
 

43 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I don’t think there’s even a .01 chance someone claims him. That contract-  the 23m injury kicker.  Would have to be a really dumb team to claim him, alas, there are some dumb teams.

 

I think he ends up in SF.  

 

Good point that if the team claims him, they claim the injury guarantee.  I hadn't thought of that.   But he still may not get the immediate opportunity to pick "a good team".

SF would actually be a good landing spot.
 

1 hour ago, vincec said:

Why in the world would they do something like that except to humiliate him? Crazy.

 

Giving some benefit of the doubt, I think the Giants were just asking him to help the team prepare.

I don't think they thought about how it would look to NFL fans or that Jones would likely feel some way about it.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 12:35 AM by Beck Water

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, bobobonators said:

Dallas will sign him

I see Dallas and the Rams as sleepers to sign him.  In LA he could be a backup for a year or two and have a shot.

[FireChans]

3 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

It's my understanding after the trade deadline is passed, every player must go through waivers.

If I'm wrong, I feel very confident that someone will correct me.

Waivers means you have to pay them their original salary IIRC

[BillsFanForever19]

59 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Waivers means you have to pay them their original salary IIRC

 

Yep. And there are some teams that are nowhere at QB right now. But no one's going to pick up the remainder of his contract.

 

He'll clear waivers and end up somewhere like Dallas or Las Vegas for the remainder of the year.

 

To the OP's subtitle - I don't see it. Although he is almost literally Mitch Trubisky 2.0, Mitch's route of Redshirting himself for a year on a team where he has practically a 0% chance of seeing the field following being a long term starter isn't a common one.

 

If he doesn't stick with whatever team grabs him this season, he'll more likely sign on with a team that is Drafting a Rookie QB, a team that has a shaky starter, a team that is bringing in vets for a competition, a team that has a QB coming off injury or who is often injured. Buffalo fits none of those and that's why our Backup options are usually not great.

 

As it is, we'd have to release Mitch first - which I don't see as being likely either. We signed him to a 2 year 5.25m dollar deal of which 3.71m was guaranteed. As is often the case, the board's feeling on a player doesn't always match up with the front office. And I think Mitch is one of those cases. I think they'd much sooner ask him to take a pay cut than outright cut him - if anything at all.

Edited Saturday at 02:37 AM by BillsFanForever19

[Governor]

Steelers could be interested.

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

POShaun Watson says hi.

 

I think Russ Wilson in Denver should get honorable mention, at least, or maybe runner-up

And how about Aaron Rodgers in NY?