Giants are releasing QB Daniel Jones (future backup to Josh Allen)

[DapperCam]

11 minutes ago, boyst said:

There's no way, they would have to take his contract on

If he is going to the Cowboys they probably have a handshake agreement to sign him after he clears waivers Monday. Nobody is going to claim him.

[Warriorspikes51]

Practice Squad upgrade! sign him 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

He's bad but he is so much better than Mitch... if he is agreeable bring him to the PS sooner rather than later

[boyst]

1 minute ago, DapperCam said:

If he is going to the Cowboys they probably have a handshake agreement to sign him after he clears waivers Monday. Nobody is going to claim him.

NFL radio was all over this last week on the proposed expectation that he is released this offseason. They had ranked his best landing spots: Kansas city, San Diego being the top spots. They said sitting behind an experienced quarterback who will start for a while, with good offensive minds and a good system in place with the exactly what he needs

[BarleyNY]

16 minutes ago, boyst said:

There's no way, they would have to take his contract on

That would only happen if a team claimed him via waivers, which obviously none will do. 

[dave mcbride]

6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I guess the best way to put it is not using rookie contracts, who’s the least accomplished qb to receive a receive a sizable 2nd contract (using the money of their era)? I think Jones is in the discussion. In an era where every qb is like 80s Dan Marino, Jones was putting up 70s passing stats.  

I guess I'd go with possibly Raiders giving Jeff George 5 years/26 million in the mid-1990s. That was real money back then.

[gonzo1105]

I think someone will give him an opportunity that is better for him than the Bills next season, even as a stopgap starter to a rookie. He'd be smart to sign with someone like Dallas the rest of the year to see if he can show that the Giants were wrong and get a team to believe in him for next year. Raiders would also be a good option for him. One that might not be a bad idea as well is the Rams. Stafford is on his last legs there and would provide future opportunity.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said:

He's not coming here.  

Mitch is buds with Josh.  That's the top qualification for Bills backup QB.  

Same as #2 tight end.

[TBBills Fan]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

Bad look doing this unless Jones asked to be released.

He probably did.  They moved him to scout team safety 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

There have been a lot of bad QB contracts over the years, and while Jones was overpaid, his contract isn't close to being the worst. Ryan Leaf went 4-17, had a 48.8 lifetime rating (very hard to do!), and a career TD/INT ratio of 14 to 36. (Jamarcus Russell was bad too, but not THAT bad: 7-18 with a 65.2 rating.) Leaf's rookie contract was 6 years/31.25 million. Different era, but it ate a ton of cap up, which is all that really matters when you're talking about NFL player salaries.

 

Daniel Jones, who I think will be a career backup, actually had a LEGIT good season in 2022 - 708 rushing yards, 5.9 ypc, 22 total TDs (15 passing TDs, 7 rushing), the lowest interception rate in the league, and a very respectable 62.9 QBR. He had an AV of 15 (via PFR), which is very good. As a complete QB (not just measuring one counting stat but looking at his production in its totality), he had a good season. The offense overall was 15th in points/18th in yards (middle of the pack) and second in fewest turnovers surrendered.

 

 

To play devils advocate on his "breakout year" - 

• Never figured out how to use his athleticism to drive the ball down the field, it was always runs.  So when the media compared jones 2022 to Allens 2019, it just didn't make sense to me.  
• Still had a fairly high sack rate.  Turnovers will absolutely kill you, but sacks are drive killers just the same
• Poor Yards per attempt.  
• Poor Air yards

I personally think i would've let him walk.  There just wasn't much when i watched that i didn't think could be replaced with Tannehill, Carr, Mayfield etc. 

[Matt_In_NH]

We dont want a 40M QB handing off to a 20M RB....that would be dumb

[That's No Moon]

14 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I guess I'd go with possibly Raiders giving Jeff George 5 years/26 million in the mid-1990s. That was real money back then.

Jeff George at least had a couple of really good seasons with Atlanta before that.

 

I was thinking about the contract Detroit gave Scott Mitchell and honestly the contract Buffalo gave Rob Johnson.

[Captain Hindsight]

54 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

I’d take him as backup next year, he’s better than Mitch.

 

He could start for the Cowboys the rest of the season. It’s possible he could start for the Raiders too. I wonder if he signs somewhere right away.

Dallas could start him on Thanksgiving. That would make that game worth watching 

[reddogblitz]

Jones was a first round QB and got some starts in the NFL. That means he can be a back up for multiple teams for the next 12 years a la Tod Collins.

 

He looks like Jim Carey.

 

I don't want him within 500 miles of a Bills locker room.

[Kelly to Allen]

He's not better than tribs. He's not even better than Mike White

My eyes start bleeding when I watch Daniel Jones at QB. He is absolutely Trent Edwards awful and the same type of check down Charlie. 

 

 

[Gregg]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCmkiuZRHEW/?igsh=MWNkeHJramZlcWRlZw==

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

23 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

We dont want a 40M QB handing off to a 20M RB....that would be dumb

 

I mean... He's not wrong.  The wrong part was the 40M qb being a player you build your team around.   

 

Barkley on that giants team doesn't move the needle.  

[Chicken Boo]

To Schoen: 

 

Now what did we learn? HAVE you learned anything?

[8BallSippin]

I feel for the guy, hard to be at rock bottom and know everybody in the organization doesn't even want to talk to you.  

 

I get the feeling he doesn't want to play anymore, but felt like he had too.

Edited November 22 by 8BallSippin

[Returntoglory]

Change of scenery can do wonders.