Brock Purdy- Shoulder Injury

[UKBillFan]

48 minutes ago, ganesh said:

The thing is that Purdy is also the reason why there are 8-9 all-pros/pro-bowlers on that team...

 

Both the Niners and Purdy have a big decision coming up. If I was Purdy I'd take whatever they offer him. They're making him more than the other way round though, in his defence, he is making something of the system, which not all QBs can do.

[finn]

13 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

W-L record is not just a QB stat, just look at Joe Burrow this year

I agree, of course, but I would argue it's more of a QB stat than it appears. Put Allen on the Bengals and Burrows on the Bills. What difference would there be in the respective teams' record compared to their records now, all else being equal?

[BillsFan130]

1 hour ago, ganesh said:

The thing is that Purdy is also the reason why there are 8-9 all-pros/pro-bowlers on that team...

Kittle, Mccafery, Samuel, Trent Williams, Juice on offence were all all pros before Purdy got there lol. 

 

The only guy you can make an argument for is Aiyuk

27 minutes ago, finn said:

I agree, of course, but I would argue it's more of a QB stat than it appears. Put Allen on the Bengals and Burrows on the Bills. What difference would there be in the respective teams' record compared to their records now, all else being equal?

I honestly don't know if there would be a difference? Burrow has thrown for over 800 yards and 9'TDs against Baltimore this year and they lost both games.

 

I am not sure what more he can do this season 

[finn]

11 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I honestly don't know if there would be a difference? Burrow has thrown for over 800 yards and 9'TDs against Baltimore this year and they lost both games.

 

I am not sure what more he can do this season 

My point is that Allen would have the Bengals winning their division, not because he's more talented physically than Burrows (I would say his mobility and power is offset by Burrow's superior accuracy) but because he has more will to win.

 

In other words, there IS more that Burrows could do. Of course, if he could do what Allen can do, he wouldn't be Burrows...

[BuffaloBillyG]

Shanny already saying his status for next week is "up in the air" may not be a good indication for them that he plays vs us. 

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, ganesh said:

The thing is that Purdy is also the reason why there are 8-9 all-pros/pro-bowlers on that team...

He plays a part the players are talented with or without Purdy.  Purdy does not make All pros, he runs the system well.

[BillsFan130]

29 minutes ago, finn said:

My point is that Allen would have the Bengals winning their division, not because he's more talented physically than Burrows (I would say his mobility and power is offset by Burrow's superior accuracy) but because he has more will to win.

 

In other words, there IS more that Burrows could do. Of course, if he could do what Allen can do, he wouldn't be Burrows...

I respecfully disagree. I would take Josh all day as he's our guy. But when you throw for 450 yards and 5 TDS and score 35 points but your defence can't stop anyone or your kicker has missed game winning kicks in 2 games (baltimore and chargers), I put basically 0 blame on Burrow. Not too mention the horrible PI call against KC in the last seconds that set the winning kick.

 

Even flipt those 3 games around which was out of Burrows control, and the Bengals are 7-4. Not too mention all the other times he scored 30 plus and the defence couldn't stop anyone

Edited November 23 by BillsFan130

[stinky finger]

44 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I respecfully disagree. I would take Josh all day as he's our guy. But when you throw for 450 yards and 5 TDS and score 35 points but your defence can't stop anyone or your kicker has missed game winning kicks in 2 games (baltimore and chargers), I put basically 0 blame on Burrow. Not too mention the horrible PI call against KC in the last seconds that set the winning kick.

 

Even flipt those 3 games around which was out of Burrows control, and the Bengals are 7-4. Not too mention all the other times he scored 30 plus and the defence couldn't stop anyone

 

Purdy is better than Tua when the play breaks down. I'll take Purdy with slight edge over Tua.

 

Burrows is fantastic. He isn't Josh Allen. Josh all day.

[TheWei44]

Joe Burrow is an NFL QB.  Joe Burrows doesn't play in the NFL.  Here in Cincinnati, there are twin girls in my son's grade.  Their last name is Burrows.  Some last names have an "s" at the end and some don't.

[The Helmet of]

16 minutes ago, TheWei44 said:

Joe Burrow is an NFL QB.  Joe Burrows doesn't play in the NFL.  Here in Cincinnati, there are twin girls in my son's grade.  Their last name is Burrows.  Some last names have an "s" at the end and some don't.

Names shames. Your standards are high for expecting people to spell someone’s name correctly when confidently commenting about them on the internet.

 

 

Edited November 23 by The Helmet of

[NoSaint]

2 hours ago, finn said:

My point is that Allen would have the Bengals winning their division, not because he's more talented physically than Burrows (I would say his mobility and power is offset by Burrow's superior accuracy) but because he has more will to win.

 

In other words, there IS more that Burrows could do. Of course, if he could do what Allen can do, he wouldn't be Burrows...

burrow has a national championship and an afc championship- I think the guy has some drive to win

1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said:

He plays a part the players are talented with or without Purdy.  Purdy does not make All pros, he runs the system well.

He lets them afford a few of those guys though

[Breakout Squad]

10 minutes ago, The Helmet of said:

Names shames. Your standards are high for expecting people to spell someone’s name correctly when confidently commenting about them on the internet.

 

 

I’m a huge Josh Allens fan 😂

[finn]

1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said:

I respecfully disagree. I would take Josh all day as he's our guy. But when you throw for 450 yards and 5 TDS and score 35 points but your defence can't stop anyone or your kicker has missed game winning kicks in 2 games (baltimore and chargers), I put basically 0 blame on Burrow. Not too mention the horrible PI call against KC in the last seconds that set the winning kick.

 

Even flipt those 3 games around which was out of Burrows control, and the Bengals are 7-4. Not too mention all the other times he scored 30 plus and the defence couldn't stop anyone

I see your point. Allen can't play defense, as we saw in the 13-second game. His will to win was enormous in that game, but it didn't carry over to the defense or coaching. 

 

Does that make Burrows the true MVP then? (I mean, in a just world.)

[fergie's ire]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Shanny already saying his status for next week is "up in the air" may not be a good indication for them that he plays vs us. 

I'm not a Dr and don't even play one on TV but my own experience makes me wonder about a rotator cuff injury.  My shoulder felt fine doing just about anything but if I tried to throw it was extremely painful.

[BillsFan130]

5 minutes ago, finn said:

I see your point. Allen can't play defense, as we saw in the 13-second game. His will to win was enormous in that game, but it didn't carry over to the defense or coaching. 

 

Does that make Burrows the true MVP then? (I mean, in a just world.)

Haha ya it's an interesting point cause if the bengals are let's say 7-4 now, I would say burrow and Josh would be the front runners for MVP

4 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

I'm not a Dr and don't even play one on TV but my own experience makes me wonder about a rotator cuff injury.  My shoulder felt fine doing just about anything but if I tried to throw it was extremely painful.

Ya It's definitely not fun. I had a rotator cuff injury playing baseball and could barely lift my arm over my head without pain.

 

Not sure how significant Purdys injury is but if it's rotator cuff, going to take some time you would think

[Matt_In_NH]

37 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

He lets them afford a few of those guys though

100%

[ColoradoBills]

Looking at the 49ers schedule this Green Bay game is very important to any playoff hopes for SF.

They are in the basement of the NFCW (1-3 in division) and currently a 3-4 conference record.

 

Purdy's shoulder must be pretty bad for him not to play.  Dropping another conference game to GB puts them in a

bad situation going forward.

 

Currently 5-5:

at GB

at BUF

CHI

LAR

at MIA

DET

at ARZ

[Kirby Jackson]

On 11/21/2024 at 7:05 PM, GolfandBills said:

They’ll all be healthy for the Bills game.  I hope they are anyway.  No excuses when we beat them.  

This is always one of my favorite takes. Why do we want to play against a team that’s better? 😂😂 Does the win count more if they have Bosa and Purdy? I thought that we were past the days of the insecure Bills fans, desperate for approval from the outside? 
 

This is so dumb. The goal is to win. The more people that they have out, the easier that is. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This is always one of my favorite takes. Why do we want to play against a team that’s better? 😂😂 Does the win count more if they have Bosa and Purdy? I thought that we were past the days of the insecure Bills fans, desperate for approval from the outside? 
 

This is so dumb. The goal is to win. The more people that they have out, the easier that is. 

Exactly this. Regular season is about stacking wins any way possible. 

 

I would rather beat a depleted team then take the "noble loss" to a team at full strength.

 

I don't remember anyone getting an asterisk next to a win against the Bills the last few years with our injury issues 

[Rubes]

According to the NY Times simulator, the 49ers currently are looking at an 18% chance of making the playoffs.

 

If they lose to the Packers, that drops to 7%. If they beat the Packers, it rises to about 30%. So this is a pretty big game for them. Not a great game to be missing your starting QB and your best defensive player.

 

Their division is super tight right now, but the 49ers are 1-3 in the division, so their best path to the playoffs is winning their division, which means beating the Rams and Cardinals later this year.

 

Beating the Bills is far less important to their chances. That said, if they lose to both the Packers and Bills these next two weeks, they would essentially have to win out the rest of the way. They can basically only lose 2 more games this season to even sniff the playoffs, so a loss to the Packers this week would really put their backs against the wall.