Criminal group targeting NFL players

[Goin Breakdown]

  On 11/21/2024 at 9:07 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I am surprised they can locate their addresses. 

 

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Leodis Mckelvin was surprised years ago that his address was known. 

[T.E.]

  On 11/22/2024 at 2:29 PM, SoTier said:

 

So, there wasn't crime in the US before "South American gangs" became the latest foreign criminal bogeyman -- Chinese gangs, Mexican drug cartels, Russian gangster, etc -- in the last thirty years and getting rid of "South American gangs" will end crime in America?    There are no criminal Americans?  

 

FTR, how do you propose to identify and locate these "South American gangs" and then "just get rid of them"?

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You seem pretty defensive about someone merely suggesting that we shouldn't have to put up with foreign crime syndicates terrorizing America citizens. Also, what a weird position you have - "If we arrest one group of criminals, there will still be other criminals, so why bother?"

 

Also, I love how the people upset with me for expressing a completely rational view about crime are also pretending they've never heard of the concept of law enforcement before.

 

"There's no way to stop this! You can't just arrest violent criminals and sentence them to jail time! You also can't deport them if they're non-citizens! This has never been done in history, and you want to try to start now?"

 

Spare me.

Edited November 22, 2024 by T.E.

[TBBills Fan]

  On 11/22/2024 at 6:02 AM, sleeby said:

Is there real proof this is south American crime group?  Cause, if not, then this is the most bigoted thread I've seen allowed here.  

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The article specifically states that. 

  On 11/22/2024 at 3:12 PM, boyst said:

this thread has not been a disappointment whatsoever. keep up this work you motely folks!

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You are welcome 

 

You can Venmo or cash app me to show appreciation 

[Beck Water]

  On 11/22/2024 at 2:38 PM, Mr. WEO said:

Correct.  This info is publicly posted.  If it's an LLC, then it's a little harder to suss.  But all real estate transactions re available to the public. 

for example:

https://data.democratandchronicle.com/real-estate/

 

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Yes, WEO, that's the point, we know real estate transactions are publicly discoverable, but almost all athletes own their property through an LLC
Pretty sure you won't find Knox or Allen in that database

[DC Greg]

  On 11/21/2024 at 8:47 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

#TryThatInaSmallMarket

 

 

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Epic quip

[Beck Water]

  On 11/22/2024 at 3:21 PM, T.E. said:

You seem pretty defensive about someone merely suggesting that we shouldn't have to put up with foreign crime syndicates terrorizing America citizens.

 

Also, I love how the people upset with me for expressing a completely rational view about crime are also pretending they've never heard of the concept of law enforcement before.

 

"There's no way to stop this! You can't just arrest violent criminals and sentence them to jail time! You also can't deport them if they're non-citizens! This has never been done in history, and you want to try to start now?"

 

Spare me.

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Your post, for reference: "There is absolutely no reason anyone should have to inconvenience themselves in order to adapt to the behavior of "South American crime syndicates" in this country."

The point I think some are trying to make is, your post is meaningless, not rational.  Sure - we shouldn't have to "inconvenience ourselves" to adapt to the behavior of any foreign crime syndicates.  Everyone would agree with that.  We shouldn't.  But they're here, and they're impacting people, so what ya gonna do?

The whole point of foreign crime syndicates is that the actual brains bankrolling the operation are - foreign.  Off-shore.  Not subject to arrest and sentencing by US Law Enforcement.  You might catch and jail some of the stooges, but that's just cutting off a limb that is easily re-grown.
 

Where did the stuff about "you can't just arrest violent criminals and sentence them to jail time.  You also can't deport them if they're non criminals!" ? No one is arguing that that I've seen.  Seems to me you're injecting your own hobby horses into the conversation.  The whole point of this is that the criminals are targeting vacant properties of NFL stars and committing property crimes, theft - not violent crimes. 

There's also nothing about whether the actual thieves are citizens or not, just that the brains of the thing, planning the crimes and bankrolling the security jammers or whatever other high technology, are foreign crime syndicates. 

Edited November 22, 2024 by Beck Water

[T.E.]

  On 11/22/2024 at 3:46 PM, Beck Water said:

Where did the stuff about "you can't just arrest violent criminals and sentence them to jail time.  You also can't deport them if they're non criminals!" ? No one is arguing that that I've seen.

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LMAO, you yourself are making that argument! Your own words:

 

"The point I think some are trying to make is, your post is meaningless, not rational.  Sure - we shouldn't have to "inconvenience ourselves" to adapt to the behavior of any foreign crime syndicates.  Everyone would agree with that.  We shouldn't.  But they're here, and they're impacting people, so what ya gonna do?"

Edited November 22, 2024 by T.E.

[RiotAct]

  On 11/22/2024 at 3:12 PM, boyst said:

this thread has not been a disappointment whatsoever. keep up this work you motely folks!

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We are making even better headway on society’s deepest problems here than we were in the Kermit Lynching thread!!!

[Mr. WEO]

  On 11/22/2024 at 3:26 PM, Beck Water said:

 

Yes, WEO, that's the point, we know real estate transactions are publicly discoverable, but almost all athletes own their property through an LLC
Pretty sure you won't find Knox or Allen in that database

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so much for the anonymous LLC...

 

https://nypost.com/2024/01/22/real-estate/inside-josh-allens-real-estate-portfolio-worth-12m/

 

these guys don't live in caves, they have neighbors, etc.  I'm sure almost everyone in OP who cares to, knows which house is Josh's...so does every contractor, lawn service, cleaning service, delivery service, postman.......

 

https://data.democratandchronicle.com/real-estate/27-hidden-oak-court-orchard-park/2018/14-11331-9884/

 

this will lead you to the sale purchase and the LLC Josh used.

  On 11/22/2024 at 3:10 PM, Beck Water said:

 

You would have to ask the FBI what their "real proof" is.  My guess is they'll tell you to go pound sand, but the FBI typically doesn't issue warnings without good reason

 

As for bigoted, you'll have to explain that.  Start with the definition:

"obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group."

 

I don't think "South America" is a particular group.  It's a geographical location, as far as I know.

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well...so is Haiti

[SoTier]

  On 11/22/2024 at 3:21 PM, T.E. said:

You seem pretty defensive about someone merely suggesting that we shouldn't have to put up with foreign crime syndicates terrorizing America citizens. Also, what a weird position you have - "If we arrest one group of criminals, there will still be other criminals, so why bother?"

 

Also, I love how the people upset with me for expressing a completely rational view about crime are also pretending they've never heard of the concept of law enforcement before.

 

"There's no way to stop this! You can't just arrest violent criminals and sentence them to jail time! You also can't deport them if they're non-citizens! This has never been done in history, and you want to try to start now?"

 

Spare me.

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I guarantee that being robbed by some "South American gang" doesn't feel any different than being robbed by some local gang.  

 

 

Edited November 22, 2024 by SoTier

[T.E.]

  On 11/22/2024 at 4:24 PM, SoTier said:

 

I guarantee that being robbed by some "South American gang" doesn't feel any different than being robbed by some local gang.  

 

 

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You're saying this like I'm suggesting that only one of the two be punished, which of course I'm not.

[sleeby]

I'm the one that's got it figured out!

 

It's the amazon prime residential delivery drivers - they know where you live.  Not sure about SA but I've seen some that might be.  🤔

 

Guess we need to cancel amazon now. /sarcasm 

Edited November 22, 2024 by sleeby

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 11/21/2024 at 8:55 PM, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

Land mines...

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...now those will spat out that dummy...

[That's No Moon]

  On 11/22/2024 at 12:32 AM, T.E. said:

Or, hear me out here, we just get rid of South American gangs who have come over here solely to victimize Americans.

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There have been significant "South American crime syndicates" in this country for at least 40 years through many many many administrations.

 

Yes. They should be dealt with. No, it's not a new problem.

  On 11/21/2024 at 11:10 PM, T.E. said:

There is absolutely no reason anyone should have to inconvenience themselves in order to adapt to the behavior of "South American crime syndicates" in this country.

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I shouldn't have to lock up my belongings at all. Sadly I've had to adapt my behavior and lock my house and car. I'd love to lock up all the thieves, not just the foreign ones.

[That's No Moon]

  On 11/21/2024 at 9:07 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I am surprised they can locate their addresses. 

 

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Why? You don't need to be a genius to follow someone home from work. Lots of players drive pretty conspicuous vehicles and they all have very predictable daily schedules and work locations.

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:59 PM, T.E. said:

Who said that we should only go after foreign criminals? You're like the fifth person whose put those words in my mouth because you're ultra-sensitive about any immigrants being criticized, regardless of their behavior.

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I don't think I did say you said that.

 

I'm also curious what I said makes me ultra sensitive about criticism of immigrants?

[Gugny]

  On 11/21/2024 at 8:47 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

#TryThatInaSmallMarket

 

 

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This is gold.  Bravo!